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Antifar
07/10/20 4:44:26 PM
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https://www.fox9.com/news/150-minneapolis-police-officers-seeking-disability-for-ptsd-following-riots
At least 150 Minneapolis Police Officers have begun the process of seeking 'duty disability' for post-traumatic stress under the Minnesota Public Employees Retirement Association (PERA), said an attorney representing the officers.

The attorney, Ron Meuser, who handles most disability claims for the Minneapolis Police Federation, told the FOX 9 Investigators 75 of those officers are under doctors orders not to return to work as they undergo treatment for symptoms consistent with PTSD.

The symptoms didnt just start six weeks ago, said Meuser. Theyve been dealing with symptoms for decades.

But the stress and trauma reached a tipping point with the siege of the Third Police Precinct, he said. Fifty of the officers currently seeking disability, about one-third of the total, were present at the Third Precinct on Thursday, May 28.

They did not feel they were going to come home, said Meuser. Some officers were texting their families goodbye and others were saving a bullet in case they needed to take their own life, rather than being beaten to death, he said.

Meuser said since the killing of George Floyd, officers have felt abandoned by city and state politicians as well as the community at large.

Its an emotional beatdown on a daily basis for these guys, he said.

Asked if those seeking disability are retaliating against the City of Minneapolis, Meuser denied that is the case.

Ive looked them in the eyes, not one of them is attempting to get out of working, said Meuser. Every one of them, to a man and woman, said, 'I never thought I would be leaving this way.'"

Meuser added that most of the officers seeking disability are veterans of the department with 16 to 23 years of experience.

Recent changes in state law have made it easier for law enforcement to claim their jobs caused post-traumatic stress, instead of other factors like previous military service or home life.

In the last month, the City of Minneapolis has received 17 PTSD related workers compensation claims.

But applications submitted under the state retirement fund, known as PERA, do not require an employee to notify the department that an application has been submitted.

Under PERA duty disability, officers would be able to claim 60 percent of their average salary over the next 20 years. If the employee also files for workers compensation, it usually makes up the difference to their full salary.

Minneapolis City Councilwoman Linea Palmisano (Ward 13) said so many officers seeking disability could have an enormous financial impact on the city.

This keeps someone who is no longer working, at a significant expense to our city, and I fear with appropriate treatment could have recovered and been a meaningful contributor to our city, said Palmisano.

Palmisano, who believes the officers claims are legitimate, said too little is done before a diagnosis of post traumatic stress, and not enough afterwards.

Along with other council members, she supports additional resiliency training to help officers recognize and cope with the signs of post-traumatic stress.

Palmisano said recent legislative changes, while they make it easier to establish a claim, dont allow enough time for treatment that would allow an employee to successfully return to work.

This is too often a hidden ailment, said Palmisano. And we sure dont want that because it comes out in peoples lives and their work lives in a bad way.

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ScazarMeltex
07/10/20 4:46:20 PM
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People who live in fear of the police don't get shit for their PTSD, why should the people they are afraid of get anything.

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Machete
07/10/20 4:46:47 PM
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so basically the tl;dr is "waaaahhh" -cops

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CommonStar
07/10/20 4:47:15 PM
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They are the biggest babies.
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Blue_Inigo
07/10/20 4:49:55 PM
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Did they feel this PTSD as they beat the shit out of peaceful protestors? Fuck the police

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NinjaWarrior455
07/10/20 4:50:04 PM
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Antifar posted...
Some officers were texting their families goodbye and others were saving a bullet in case they needed to take their own life, rather than being beaten to death, he said.
They're fucking people not savage zombies.

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Smashingpmkns
07/10/20 4:53:17 PM
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I thought every police officer had a false tooth cyanide suicide pill just in case.
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Forever_Black
07/10/20 4:54:35 PM
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tote_all posted...
A lot of police systems around the world need heavy reform, but the posts so far in this topic are beyond idiotic.

this. Its like people forget cops are human as well.

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JuanCarlos1
07/10/20 4:55:59 PM
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So they want out early and got assessment from lawyers. Thats all I see here.

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Blue_Inigo
07/10/20 4:56:06 PM
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Forever_Black posted...
this. Its like people forget cops are human as well.
Humans who have abused and murdered those without power for decades.

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LordMarshal
07/10/20 4:59:06 PM
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You just dont understand the history of vacuums.

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legendary_zell
07/10/20 5:00:11 PM
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Forever_Black posted...
this. Its like people forget cops are human as well.

I don't think our society has a problem recognizing the humanity of police officers. Too often, we dehumanize the people they police and reduce them entirely to hulking masses or quick movements or thugs. Meanwhile, we are demanded to view all police-citizen interactions from the officer's point of view, told to think about their fear, their need to get home safe to their family, the abuse they endure, etc. In fact, the law literally requires all of this of citizens and judges, but none of it from cops.

Cops are some of the most humanized people out there.

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darkprince45
07/10/20 5:01:21 PM
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Ah, mental health doesnt matter when its the people you hate. Really shows the characters here. Ive known 2 cops and one army friend commit suicide since all this plus covid began

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GallisOTK
07/10/20 5:04:03 PM
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"I'm too scared and traumatized that I won't be able to get away with harassing and assaulting innocent people without consequences anymore so pay for my retirement."
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ScazarMeltex
07/10/20 5:10:19 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Ah, mental health doesnt matter when its the people you hate. Really shows the characters here. Ive known 2 cops and one army friend commit suicide since all this plus covid began
Do you consider the mental health of the homeless people you harass and beat up?

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Hop103
07/10/20 5:12:45 PM
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They should get some funding to get them back on their feet, it's not their fault that the city government is run by loons.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/10/20 5:15:34 PM
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Antifar posted...
They did not feel they were going to come home,

Sounds an awful lot like minorities that have interactions with police. Maybe they shouldnt kill their citizens without any kind of punishment when its deserved.
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cymbaline
07/10/20 5:17:05 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Do you consider the mental health of the homeless people you harass and beat up?
Got em

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LethalAffinity
07/10/20 5:21:16 PM
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Poop2
07/10/20 5:22:02 PM
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Antifar posted...
Meuser said since the killing of George Floyd, officers have felt abandoned by city and state politicians as well as the community at large.

stop being dirty pigs then
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Lost_All_Senses
07/10/20 5:22:24 PM
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Holy shit a lot of police officers are unfit to even work a regular job. Just mentally weak as fuck.

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LightningAce11
07/10/20 5:23:43 PM
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Take away their pension and suspend them without pay.

These are just high school bullies upset they got caught.
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TheGoldenEel
07/10/20 5:24:03 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
I don't think our society has a problem recognizing the humanity of police officers. Too often, we dehumanize the people they police and reduce them entirely to hulking masses or quick movements or thugs. Meanwhile, we are demanded to view all police-citizen interactions from the officer's point of view, told to think about their fear, their need to get home safe to their family, the abuse they endure, etc. In fact, the law literally requires all of this of citizens and judges, but none of it from cops.

Cops are some of the most humanized people out there.
this,

and also daily reminded that every one of these officers voluntarily chose to join into our broken system

black people do not get that same choice

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Stewman_Magoo
07/10/20 5:31:01 PM
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Aww those poor instigators! Is it emotionally tough gassing people all day?

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Gobstoppers12
07/10/20 5:44:58 PM
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The ignorant callousness in this topic is sickening.

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gna647
07/10/20 5:46:23 PM
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KStateKing17
07/10/20 5:47:32 PM
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Well shit. I want my reparations then.

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Funkydog
07/10/20 5:51:33 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
People who live in fear of the police don't get shit for their PTSD, why should the people they are afraid of get anything.
Getting told you aren't allowed to murder black people takes it toll man. You've got to understand, you're asking them to treat people like people and they aren't used to it. We should really be sympathising with murderers now they are getting called out and can't get away with abuse :( :( :(

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Suchomimus
07/10/20 5:52:10 PM
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You guys are disturbingly cold hearted. Fucking sick.

gna647 posted...
They shouldnt be cops then

If that's the case should the Minneapolis police have really been defunded then? Perhaps they require better training, documenting to ensure they're fit for the role etc.

In any case, these cops had nothing to do with Floyd and have been through a lot with these riots and the public turning on them. If you were in their position your mental health would more than likely not be in the best state. People love to shit on police but few understand the inherent stress of the job. At the end of the day they are still human beings with some scumbags sprinkled in.

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divot1338
07/10/20 5:52:28 PM
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Antifar posted...
Its an emotional beatdown on a daily basis for these guys, he said.
As opposed to the physical beatdown on a daily basis for their victims.

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Suchomimus
07/10/20 5:54:11 PM
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divot1338 posted...
As opposed to the physical beatdown on a daily basis for their victims.

Do you truly believe this? Do you believe a police officer beats someone up daily for no reason?

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cymbaline
07/10/20 5:54:45 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
You guys are disturbingly cold hearted. Fucking sick.

If that's the case should the Minneapolis police have really been defunded then? Perhaps they require better training, documenting to ensure they're fit for the role etc.

In any case, these cops had nothing to do with Floyd and have been through a lot with these riots and the public turning on them. If you were in their position your mental health would more than likely not be in the best state. People love to shit on police but few understand the inherent stress of the job. At the end of the day they are still human beings with some scumbags sprinkled in.
This poster made fun of children being separated from their parents by ICE btw

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Suchomimus
07/10/20 5:55:39 PM
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cymbaline posted...
This poster made fun of children being separated from their parents by ICE btw

Not a refutation.

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cymbaline
07/10/20 5:58:10 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
Not a refutation.
It shows you care more about pigs than the people they terrorize. Fuck your crocodile tears.

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divot1338
07/10/20 5:59:42 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
Do you truly believe this? Do you believe a police officer beats someone up daily for no reason?
The ones in Minneapolis working at protests who are seeking disability pay for PTSD?

Yes I do.

You see what you did was mistakenly extrapolate what I said about these specific cops to every police officer everywhere.

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Suchomimus
07/10/20 6:01:42 PM
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cymbaline posted...
It shows you care more about pigs than the people they terrorize. Fuck your crocodile tears.

It doesn't matter that I trolled in the past. You're not acknowledging my statement and are disregarding it completely due to my "character".

Let's not pretend you've never done such a thing. Or are you more concerned with "canceling" posters on a dying video game message board?

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ScazarMeltex
07/10/20 6:04:52 PM
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Suchomimus posted...
It doesn't matter that I trolled in the past. You're not acknowledging my statement and are disregarding it completely due to my "character".

Let's not pretend you've never done such a thing. Or are you more concerned with "canceling" posters on a dying video game message board?
Because your character and actions in the past show that you aren't a serious person and aren't to be taken seriously or engaged with in good faith.

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Tmaster148
07/10/20 6:06:06 PM
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And they deserve absolutely nothing for all their behavior.

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Poop2
07/10/20 6:11:14 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
And they deserve absolutely nothing for all their behavior.

they act softer than trump
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Gobstoppers12
07/10/20 6:12:53 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
And they deserve absolutely nothing for all their behavior.
I trust that you have detailed information regarding the actions of each and every individual involved in this case and are prepared to list specific actions personally taken by each name that makes them specifically unworthy of the compensation promised to them by law?

You must have spent a lot of time.

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TheGreatGeno6
07/10/20 6:13:35 PM
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Good cops don't exist because by virtue of becoming a cop you take an oath to uphold unjust laws. Fuck them all.

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Poop2
07/10/20 6:14:35 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
If people actually care about good policing, ptsd treament and time off from working on the streets is an absolute must.

I don't get these "ragggggghhh they deserve NOTHING!" Posts

this is such a disingenuous post
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Tmaster148
07/10/20 6:14:40 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I trust that you have detailed information regarding the actions of each and every individual involved in this case and are prepared to list specific actions personally taken by each name that makes them specifically unworthy of the compensation promised to them by law?

You must have spent a lot of time.

All cops are bad and none of them deserve any sort of sympathy.

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TheGreatGeno6
07/10/20 6:15:21 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
If people actually care about good policing, ptsd treament and time off from working on the streets is an absolute must.

I don't get these "ragggggghhh they deserve NOTHING!" Posts
If they claim to have PTSD then they should be permanently relieved of their duty.

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Poop2
07/10/20 6:16:41 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
We cant get a better police force if we dont deal with the mental health of police officers.

and that has nothing to do with "disability pay" it should be part of their job requirement along with more time in academy and constantly training throughout their career
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