Current Events > Dr. Anthony Fauci recommends another shutdown. How would that go?

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Squall28
07/10/20 12:00:08 PM
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Who is gonna enforce it? The police that everyone here hates and doesnt want policing? Defund the police except when I need them type of deal?

I'm not on that wagon.

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BudDupree48
07/10/20 12:01:17 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
probably the national guard

So there will be guns then

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Duncanwii
07/10/20 12:02:14 PM
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I'm personally glad that things are going back to normal. Its really helped my mental state.
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Tired-Insomniac
07/10/20 12:04:34 PM
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It's sad to think that if we had done an actual national shutdown, froze all mortgages, etc. From March and opened back up in May, we probably would be in much better shape right now.

Too bad our president and all of his followers are fucking idiots.

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tremain07
07/10/20 12:11:17 PM
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This is America, land of the wealthy, home of the greedy.There won't be another shutdown, their won't be more stimulus checks and most of all there won't be any actual fix for this virus, it's something we'll just start accepting and living with, will people die? Of course they will, will people get irreparable lung damage that'll likely kill them off sooner? You bet, will this affect poors and minorities more? Of course it will! But the rich will still be able to profit somehow form this, the wealthy will gain power from this and most of all the left will be villainous for this by the right.

It's fucked up but it's the truth, this is America.

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Squall28
07/10/20 12:17:28 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...

It's not like the economy provides food and all our needs. No sirree. It's just feeding the rich man.

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Questionmarktarius
07/10/20 12:18:41 PM
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Squall28 posted...
It's not like the economy provides food and all our needs. No sirree. It's just feeding the rich man.
Also why are all those people trespassing on the trolley tracks?
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Christian RULES
07/10/20 12:27:29 PM
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No more shutdowns!

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tremain07
07/10/20 12:27:35 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
If schools reopen in the fall then were fucked
There's no If they are, and they especially public schools will not have any real protection other than begging the kids to not do this or that. Corona is just a way of life now in this country there's no stopping it and the government has thrown their hands up willingly and public ally

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Polycosm
07/10/20 12:28:27 PM
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Whatever chance we had of mitigating the damage was squandered over the last 6 months. I think our options at this point are a million dead, or another Great Depression... and 30% of the country has already made the decision for us.

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divot1338
07/10/20 12:28:58 PM
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Were going to be doing this every four or five months until we have a president who takes it seriously and locks everything down.

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onedarksoul
07/10/20 12:29:41 PM
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Fuck that
And nobody elected him

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Strider102
07/10/20 12:30:58 PM
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If there was another shutdown we'd just have to live with it.

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TheGoldenEel
07/10/20 12:32:57 PM
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I live in a city that is taking this seriously so we are like 75% shut down anyway

bars closed, masks indoors mandatory, restaurants capped at 25%, offices offering wfh if possible, etc

problem is the surrounding area is rural trump country

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Lyrica
07/10/20 12:35:36 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
Just do a hard lockdown on everything for three-four weeks.
They did.
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Polycosm
07/10/20 12:36:31 PM
#70:


shockthemonkey posted...
If schools reopen in the fall then were fucked
I can't imagine any superintendent would want to risk it. One teacher dies of covid and their career dies with them. Pressure from the parents could cause school board members to crack though.

I think we needed a massive federal investment in schools a few months ago, to retrofit them to at least be able to park kids for the fall, but it's way too late now.

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Sewage
07/10/20 12:43:41 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted
Well duh...of course people can't get sick if no one leaves the house. After we stopped doing that it spread again. Only medicine will save us.




So did they get medicine or are you wrong an a well done shut down until you get it under control actually works? Oh wait we don't even need to look at Europe to see a lock down at the peak of your infections working.



If a state with NYC in it can get the virus under control with a lock down at their peak, then any fucking state can do it. Pretty much the entire state is in stage 4 of opening up, that's stage 4 out of 5 stages. Look at that graph and tell me with a straight face a lockdown doesn't work.
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divot1338
07/10/20 12:47:39 PM
#72:


Polycosm posted...
I can't imagine any superintendent would want to risk it. One teacher dies of covid and their career dies with them. Pressure from the parents could cause school board members to crack though.

I think we needed a massive federal investment in schools a few months ago, to retrofit them to at least be able to park kids for the fall, but it's way too late now.
The problem is that schools are designed to pack as many children as possible into a classroom. But we currently need them to do the exact opposite.

So the thing is this problem like unemployment/ reopening should have been solved like in every other country. With a reasoned, scientific shutdown and contact tracing to isolate and eliminate infections.

There really is no good way to have school in this environment. At best we can have distance learning but thats not a great substitute. Particularly in poor or rural areas without solid internet.

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legendary_zell
07/10/20 1:00:35 PM
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Man, we really destroyed or at least seriously wounded our society without even knowing it. This shambolic Covid response has created so many bombs that are all going to go off at once and we're not even responding to the problems we have now, much less the ones that are being created as we speak.

State and local governments are going to be starved of taxes and will have huge deficits and will cut necessary social services right in the middle of an economic and health crisis, unless they're bailed out. Schools need to reopen, but will be indoor virus factories. If schools don't reopen, parents will collapse of exhaustion, taking the economy down with them, and children will basically miss an entire year of education, socialization, regular meals, and structure, if not more. Rent freezes are going to expire, and we didn't just do the only humane and rational thing and cancel rent and mortgages completely, so huge swaths of the population will have months of back rent due all at once, all in the midst of an economic crisis. So we cancel rent because we don't expect people can pay one month of rent, but expect them to pay several months all at once when nothing has changed? The unemployment enhancement will also run out soon which will further inflame the problems with our economy, people keeping a roof over their heads, and people's willingness to follow any future orders that keep them from working.

We really really really fucked up as a society by making the people in charge now our leaders. They've led us right into the ditch. And we can see that this is a direct result of leadership and policy because we see that this massive increase and these potential social problems aren't happening in the US, in Canada, in East Asia, it's basically only happening here and in Brazil.

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Tyranthraxus
07/10/20 1:01:35 PM
#74:


Awesome posted...
trump doesnt want it because if we do another national shutdown the usa will never recover

USA is already fucked beyond recovery.

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Tyranthraxus
07/10/20 1:03:58 PM
#75:


Lyrica posted...
They did.
No they didn't. Italy did a hard lockdown. We did a wishy washy bullshit where morons went on spring break. If Italians did that shit they wouldn't have been let back into the country.

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Questionmarktarius
07/10/20 1:04:58 PM
#76:


Tyranthraxus posted...
USA is already fucked beyond recovery.
An unfortunate side effect of a political system based around a continuous state of "disaster", is that it's completely ineffective when an actual disaster happens.
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DiegoSanchez206
07/10/20 1:23:09 PM
#77:


TheGoldenEel posted...
I live in a city that is taking this seriously so we are like 75% shut down anyway

bars closed, masks indoors mandatory, restaurants capped at 25%, offices offering wfh if possible, etc

problem is the surrounding area is rural trump country

75% shut down in an urban city is still more active than a rural environment.


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kingdrake2
07/10/20 1:28:53 PM
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in oregon they closed down most businesses for 2 months. small business owners ended up battered and bruised from it, did mitigate the virus cases a bit.
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Solar_Crimson
07/10/20 1:36:38 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
I'm personally glad that things are going back to normal. Its really helped my mental state.
Pay attention. Things are not "going back to normal", and all signs point to things getting worse than they were before.

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Ving_Rhames
07/10/20 1:38:25 PM
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Americans are not intelligent enough for this.

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BudDupree48
07/10/20 1:52:07 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Americans are not intelligent enough for this.

Speak for yourself

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Solar_Crimson
07/10/20 1:54:51 PM
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BudDupree48 posted...
Speak for yourself
He doesn't have to. All you need to do is look at all the people refusing to wear masks and properly social-distance.

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AzNDarkSamurai
07/10/20 8:52:46 PM
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^too true...

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Phantom36
07/11/20 12:42:07 PM
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Austin_Era_II posted...
Is it Jay Z? <_<

I can't reveal the identity or there will a target on his back to be killed. A few members of the global elite class believe in educating and empowering the public, but most do not.

It's OK, none of you have to believe me. In fact, it's part of the brainwashing that you don't. Look at the reaction I was met with. "Oh that's just stupidity." Yep. Fall in line sheep, don't even for one second consider another viewpoint whatsoever. Believe exactly what we tell you, anyone who questions it is senile. Don't question why a virus with such an astronomically high rate of survival is destroying the economy.

Hell all you have to do is recall all the insider trading that happened 1 day before everything shut down, it wasn't exactly a secret that this happened. But you only heard a 60-second blurb about it on the news before it went back to the fabricated fear mongering.

The good news is folks, this too shall pass. Throughout history when disasters happen, we always come out of it with actually a better way of life and better quality of life. Things just sort of run in cycles. More wealth was created during the great depression than at any time in American history. You have the power to make 2020 the best year of your life. Look for the pieces of gold amongst all the dirt. Shut off the news and pick up some books on self empowerment and success.

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Phantom36
07/11/20 12:53:20 PM
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That's about the response I expected. Don't take my advice. Keep watching the news, and don't pick up any books on success or on self-empowerment for all I care. Quite frankly I don't care what you do, it's your life and financial well-being at stake, not mine. Mine is thriving in this bizarre time

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BCAM1984
07/11/20 12:53:33 PM
#87:


charey posted...
Another shutdown implies we had a first one. We didnt, we had individual states try a low power mode but there was little enforcement of social distancing and no mask rules.

A full nationwide shutdown in February or March and we would have been mostly over Covid by now.

This

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Phantom36
07/11/20 12:58:17 PM
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Shutdown does nothing, so many Americans are in such terrible health and so incredibly susceptible to this disease, nothing would have prevented any of this whatsoever.

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onedarksoul
07/11/20 1:18:15 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
That's about the response I expected. Don't take my advice. Keep watching the news, and don't pick up any books on success or on self-empowerment for all I care. Quite frankly I don't care what you do, it's your life and financial well-being at stake, not mine. Mine is thriving in this bizarre time
Interesting posts...I'm willing to suspend disbelief. I have only one question: how does Trump fit into all of what you've said?

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ZMythos
07/11/20 1:22:32 PM
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Fuck Donald Trump.

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apocalyptic_4
07/11/20 1:26:24 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Remember when America was an example to the rest of the world? Trump has made us a laughingstock.

Yea pretty much and I remember how Italy was mocked for not taking it serious and Americans literally did the same thing but handled it much worse after the fact.

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MrResetti
07/11/20 1:27:48 PM
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TheGreatGeno6
07/11/20 1:28:06 PM
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Good old @Duncanwii values being able to buy vidya in person and eat at subway over human lives still.

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Phantom36
07/11/20 2:37:33 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
Interesting posts...I'm willing to suspend disbelief. I have only one question: how does Trump fit into all of what you've said?

Unfortunately I'm mot privy to information regarding Trump's role. It's just a bit above my level. All I can do is speculate.

The good news is you can succeed and find financial stability in all of this, regardless of what's going on around you. Even if you were a bar owner and your business is now closed by your state, county or local government, there are actually a lot of jobs right now. Even plenty of remote work-from-home opportunities, investment opportunities, a plethora of doorways are open.

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Phantom36
07/12/20 12:59:15 PM
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Make fun all you want but if you fail to recognize that, if nothing else, that last paragraph is sound and wonderful advice, then you'll always be broke. Or you'll always be at effect, rather than at cause, and never truly happy because you'll be in a constant state of worry and/or panic.

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Phantom36
07/12/20 1:04:30 PM
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And that's why you'll always be broke and poor, my friend.

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