Board 8 > How would they do in a contest? Day 392 ft Madison Paige, Presea, Arceus

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half_silver28
07/09/20 9:25:52 PM
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This is a topic to rate the contest strength of potential newcomers in the current contest environment.

I will pick the characters to rate and discuss for each day from user nominations - whoever the 3 most nominated characters are at that time. If there are more than 3 I will pick randomly. You can nominate any number of characters at any time, but you cannot nominate the same character twice.

All characters who were present in the 2018 Character Battle will NOT be eligible. Otherwise you can nominate any character that has appeared in video games; even comic book characters. This will exclude real-life athletes who have only appeared in long running sports series, however I will accept those who have their own games such as Shaq. I will accept nominations for iconic gaming duos too, if there is a compelling reason for both characters to be linked (either co-starring in a game ala Banjo & Kazooie, or always appearing together like Callie & Marie from Splatoon).

Each day will have a separate topic, and nominations will carry over. As far as actually rating the character's contest strength; I ask that users rank a characters potential strength with one of the following qualifiers - LAW Fodder, Low Fodder, Mid Fodder, High Fodder, Fodder Line, Low Midcarder, Midcarder, High Midcarder, Near Elite, Elite, LAW Tier (capable of beating Link). I will average all the ratings given to a character to come up with their final ranking. I have included a highlighted entrant from Character Battle X on each tier of the strength rankings below, to provide a baseline for each.

Note that LAW Fodder is meant to be a tier reserved for the weakest possible characters to put into a contest. A character will only be placed there if at least 3/4ths of the voters for that day agree on the LAW Fodder rating, and no ratings above Low Fodder are given. If either of those conditions are not met, the character will not be eligible for the LAW Fodder tier.

Current Character Strength Rankings: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1AIhHywBiLd6VAMZMNEGX-HW2td8u1D0Iw_tzHsORw/edit?usp=sharing

Nomination List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-KnSBDzppzPK5Ug1zmx8_x0bG4tqFDMPPH2k8J3s8sk/edit?usp=sharing

If you feel that a character has been over or under-ranked, or if a new development has come up that would affect their contest strength, you may nominate them for a re-ranking. You may nominate one character per day for this, and 3 votes are needed to get them on the slate. One character with 3 votes will come up for re-ranking today.

Re-ranking Nomination List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V6dx-tu-FD1rCxbX69eQwEzE7x1F6nNRNFochYHu1dc/edit?usp=sharing

Results from Day 391:

Jafar (Disney's Aladdin) is Mid Fodder
Ancient Minister (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) is Low Fodder
Michael Wilson (Metal Wolf Chaos) is LAW Fodder

Re-Ranking Result:

Flint (Mother 3) is now Low Fodder

Here is today's trio to rank:

Madison Paige (Heavy Rain)
Presea Combatir (Tales of Symphonia)
Arceus (Pokemon)

Today's Re-Ranking is:

Doctor Doom (Marvel)

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Ranticoot
07/10/20 2:14:54 AM
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I don't really know Madison or Presea (though just the games they are from screams Low Fodder to me, maybe even LAW), but for Arceus and Doom:

Arceus - decent Low Fodder. Pokemon post-Gen 2 is usually weak unless it is just too popular or has Smash. Arceus has neither. The god thing can get it votes but as a whole, I don't think people are going to vote for it.

Doctor Doom - High Fodder, though the case for Fodder Line can be made. Doom is hurt badly by not having a good live action movie, but his longevity as a character, many cartoon appearances, and some good video game roles like Marvel vs. Capcom give him some strength. If he ever gets in the MCU and is done justice there, he could definitely be a decent midcarder as he's probably already one of the strongest Marvel characters who wouldn't get any strength from movies.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/10/20 5:22:31 AM
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Nominate:

Pey'j (Beyond Good & Evil)
Captain Phasma (Star Wars)
Zorii Bliss (Star Wars)
Owen Grady (Jurassic World)
Dennis Nedry (Jurassic Park)
Al McWhiggin (Toy Story 2)

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AxemRedRanger
07/10/20 11:02:49 AM
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I dont see my stance on him changing but re-rank Jeff Probst.

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MetalmindStats
07/10/20 12:03:38 PM
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Madison: Low Fodder - She's probably the strongest Heavy Rain character, despite seemingly being the least important of its playable cast based on Exdeath's topic? At the very least, I'm pretty confident her apparent oversexualization isn't an outright negative here, and it might even be a positive.

Presea: Low Fodder - A much better Low Fodder, but the emotionless doll girl-who's-actually-an-adult with whacked out proportions because Japan better damn well lack the waifu factor Sheena has going for her. She also seems to be notably less important and well-remembered than the likes of Lloyd and Kratos. Veronica from DQXI is probably the closest comparison here (not saying they're identical characters by any means of course), and we voted her into Low Fodder all those days ago.

Arceus: Agree with Low Fodder.

Doctor Doom: Mid Fodder - Yes, he's a staple of the Marvel vs. Capcom series, and he has his share of 90s cartoon and other miscellaneous appearances, but he lacks that one bang-up role to cement his place in voters' minds and keep them caring. There's only so much an overly diffuse slate of broader media appearances plus B8's support to swing a couple hundred votes (when including the registered user bonus) versus any other Fantastic Four character can do here.

Also, this:

AxemRedRanger posted...
I dont see my stance on him changing but re-rank Jeff Probst.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/10/20 2:50:34 PM
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For what it's worth Madison is one of the most divisive characters in the game. She's basically a living plot device for many, but that might not matter.

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half_silver28
07/10/20 5:33:13 PM
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Agree with Low Fodder for Madison.

Presea I say is Mid Fodder, but not particularly good mid fodder. I'm not sure about Veronica, but Presea is a very well-liked character in ToS (might be better-liked overall than Lloyd), and I think her design won't turn away nearly as many people. She is hurt by admittedly not being an archetype of character Gfaqs cares for.

Agree with Low Fodder for Arceus. The "Pokemon God" thing is really all it has going for it, which won't be enough to overcome being a Gen 4 pokemon.

Agree with Mid Fodder for Doom, citing Metal's reasoning.

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AxemRedRanger
07/10/20 6:43:06 PM
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Madison Paige (Heavy Rain) - Low fodder
Presea Combatir (Tales of Symphonia) - Low fodder

I see Kratos, Sheena, Zelos, and Lloyd as all being on a clear higher level than anyone else in that game.

Arceus (Pokemon) - Low fodder

Doctor Doom (Marvel) - Mid fodder

I just don't really see much reason people would care a lot if they're not into the source material or big MvC fans. He's got enough collectively going for him and basic name recognition that I'll trust him for mid fodder but no further.

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AxemRedRanger
07/10/20 6:52:27 PM
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Nominate:
Nathan Spencer (Bionic Commando)
Firebrand (Ghosts n Goblins)
Ghost Rider (Ghost Rider)
Tron Bonne (Megaman Legends)

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half_silver28
07/10/20 8:32:46 PM
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Presea noooo

nominate Firebrand (Ghosts n Goblins)

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half_silver28
07/10/20 9:56:10 PM
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