Board 8 > So I made a 64 Entrant Console Bracket

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Yesmar_
07/09/20 9:15:30 PM
#1:


No I don't know why either.

In terms of seeding, I was inspired by the below video, which attempts to put together an "objective" ranking of consoles based on factors such as length of support, number of titles, number of games with high Metacritic scores, etc (so blame them for the Xbox One being so low.) I hewed closely to this ranking for the higher seeds, with some changes to make things more interesting, as well as throwing in handhelds (which the video doesn't include), computers, some other fun stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI-JPlKROUk

And I bow my head in shame in advance of being told that there is a huge console I completely forgot about.

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Yesmar_
07/09/20 9:17:03 PM
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Division 1

1) Playstation 2
16) Magnavox Odyssey

8) Sega CD
9) Famicom Disk System

5) 3DS
12) Amiga

4) Game Boy Advance
13) Sega 32X

6) Saturn
11) Pong

3) Switch
14) Capcom Power System Charger

7) Turbo-Grafx 16
10) Commodore 64

2) Playstation 4
15) 64DD

Division 2

1) Xbox 360
16) iQue Player

8) Intellivision
9) SG-1000

5) Atari 2600
12) Game Gear

4) NES
13) WonderSwan

6) Gamecube
11) Neo-Geo Pocket Color

3) Playstation 3
14) PC-FX

7) Playstation Vita
10) 3DO

2) Wii
15) Colecovision

Division 3

1) PC/Mac
16) N-Gage

8) Ouya
9) MSX

5) Nintendo 64
12) CD-I

4) Playstation Portable
13) Sinclair Spectrum

6) Dreamcast
11) Oculus

3) Android/iOS
14) Virtual Boy

7) Master System
10) Neo-Geo

2) Playstation
15) Satellaview

Division 4

1) Gameboy
16) Lynx

8) Stadia
9) Game and Watch

5) Genesis
12) Atari 5200

4) Xbox
13) Sega Pico

6) Wii U
11) Mattel Electronics Football

3) DS
14) Jaguar

7) Xbox One
10) Game Boy Color

2) Super Nintendo
15) Pippin

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ZenOfThunder
07/09/20 9:18:08 PM
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Yesmar_ posted...
No I don't know why either.

ZenOfThunder posted...
46) Weakest possible entrant in 'Best. System. Ever.': N-Gage (3D0, Ouya, game.com, Virtual Boy)





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ZenOfThunder
07/09/20 9:18:46 PM
#4:


CTRL+F DVD Player

0/0

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Yesmar_
07/09/20 9:19:26 PM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
That explains why I thought of it. That doesn't explain why I actually did it.

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Bartzyx
07/09/20 9:20:34 PM
#6:


You bought an N-Gage, didn't you?

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ZenOfThunder
07/09/20 9:20:45 PM
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N64 DD > PS4 round 1 due to voter confusion

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ZaziGuado
07/09/20 9:21:16 PM
#8:


Alright let's run it.

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MetalmindStats
07/10/20 3:30:20 PM
#9:


My predix, with bold for matches I'd expect to be within 55-45 or so:

Division 1

1) Playstation 2
9) Famicom Disk System
5) 3DS
4) Game Boy Advance
6) Saturn
3) Switch
7) Turbo-Grafx 16
2) Playstation 4

Division 2

1) Xbox 360
8) Intellivision
12) Game Gear
4) NES
6) Gamecube
3) Playstation 3
7) Playstation Vita
2) Wii

Division 3

1) PC/Mac - Chances are these two would be separate entities in a GameFAQs system contest, though.
9) MSX - lmao at the Ouya seeding this highly, barely below the Xbone. That being said, I'd expect joke votes to make this close.
5) Nintendo 64
4) Playstation Portable
6) Dreamcast
3) Android/iOS - The same thing I said about the PC/Mac applies here.
7) Master System
2) Playstation

Division 4

1) Gameboy
9) Game and Watch - ?????
5) Genesis
4) Xbox
6) Wii U
3) DS
10) Game Boy Color - Speaking of the Xbone, I take it the video you posted primarily/solely considers exclusives?
2) Super Nintendo

Division 1

1) Playstation 2
4) Game Boy Advance
3) Switch
2) Playstation 4

Division 2

1) Xbox 360
4) NES
6) Gamecube
2) Wii

Division 3

1) PC/Mac
5) Nintendo 64
6) Dreamcast
2) Playstation

Division 4

1) Gameboy
5) Genesis
3) DS
2) Super Nintendo

Division 1

1) Playstation 2
3) Switch

Division 2

4) NES
6) Gamecube

Division 3

5) Nintendo 64
2) Playstation

Division 4

1) Gameboy
2) Super Nintendo

Division 1

1) Playstation 2

Division 2

4) NES

Division 3

2) Playstation

Division 4

2) Super Nintendo

Semifinals

1) Playstation 2
2) Super Nintendo

Finals

2) Super Nintendo

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Leonhart4
07/10/20 3:33:15 PM
#10:


why are we acting like the Super Nintendo wouldn't be the overall 1 seed

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Paratroopa1
07/10/20 5:50:29 PM
#11:


Sure let's predict this mess

1) Playstation 2 - Based on fame alone, the Odyssey is far from the weakest entrant in the bracket.
16) Magnavox Odyssey

8) Sega CD - Tough match early on that's complicated by not really knowing whether or not voters know about the Famicom Disk System. But what's for certain is that more voters will actually own or have played a Sega CD, so even though Sega CD sort of... sucks, I think it gets the edge here.
9) Famicom Disk System

5) 3DS
12) Amiga

4) Game Boy Advance
13) Sega 32X

6) Saturn - What is a Pong? Like Pong, the game?
11) Pong

3) Switch - What in god's name is a Capcom Power System Charger? The Switch is going to push like 95-96% here and it only doesn't do better because of the name Capcom.
14) Capcom Power System Charger

7) Turbo-Grafx 16 - Tossup. I think GameFAQs is a more TG16 kind of place. I would take the Commodore 64 with the general population.
10) Commodore 64

2) Playstation 4 - ...There is a non-zero chance of an upset taking place here.
15) 64DD

1) Xbox 360
16) iQue Player

8) Intellivision - I would wager that fewer than 5% of GameFAQs voters have played either one of these. Intellivision is the more famous name.
9) SG-1000

5) Atari 2600 - I'm not sure about this one, honestly. I think that voters might favor prestige on this one (voting on what they would actually consider to be the "best console of all time" and giving respect to the Atari 2600 for being the first truly successful game console), given that the Game Gear is not especially beloved. But I wouldn't be surprised if more voters have actually played a Game Gear so who knows.
12) Game Gear

4) NES - The NES is a 4 seed? What?
13) WonderSwan

6) Gamecube - I haven't watched the video but I feel like some of these seedings have to be trolling (not on your part)
11) Neo-Geo Pocket Color

3) Playstation 3
14) PC-FX

7) Playstation Vita
10) 3DO

2) Wii
15) Colecovision

1) PC/Mac - PC and Mac being bundled together seems odd but it doesn't really matter
16) N-Gage

8) Ouya
9) MSX - I completely fail to understand how the Ouya got an 8 seed here, and despite voters being largely unfamiliar with the MSX I'm pretty sure it wins on antivotes alone.

5) Nintendo 64 - The CD-i might have stood a chance as a joke vote victor over the Atari 2600, but not here.
12) CD-I

4) Playstation Portable
13) Sinclair Spectrum

6) Dreamcast - I thought Oculus was the name of a brand/range of products, not a specific console? Anyway, that might have been interesting to debate in some contexts, but not here.
11) Oculus

3) Android/iOS
14) Virtual Boy - Yeah, I'm going spicy here. GameFAQs is a generation of gamers that feels a lot of simmering disgust over the mobile game market, and it's going to get anti-voted to all hell here, while meanwhile the Virtual Boy may be a terrible console but it's a terrible console that GameFAQs voters can rally behind. I'm actually pretty confident in this pick.

7) Master System - Neo-Geo might stand a chance but I don't think so.
10) Neo-Geo

2) Playstation
15) Satellaview

1) Gameboy
16) Lynx

8) Stadia
9) Game and Watch - How did the Stadia get an 8 seed? G&W is going to get like 80% here, maybe more. When I said the Ouya might be the weakest console in the bracket, boy I lied.

5) Genesis
12) Atari 5200

4) Xbox
13) Sega Pico

6) Wii U
11) Mattel Electronics Football

3) DS
14) Jaguar

7) Xbox One
10) Game Boy Color - How in the ACTUAL FUCK is the GBC a 10 seed?

2) Super Nintendo
15) Pippin

1) Playstation 2
8) Sega CD

5) 3DS
4) Game Boy Advance - This is a really tough call. I think nostalgia for the GBA narrowly wins out here, but the 3DS winning wouldn't surprise me at all given that console's success.

6) Saturn
3) Switch - This hardly even seems fair

7) Turbo-Grafx 16
2) Playstation 4

1) Xbox 360 - Xbox 360 getting a free ride to the round of 16 here
8) Intellivision

5) Atari 2600
4) NES - For a 4/5 matchup, this is an unholy slaughtering

6) Gamecube - I don't know. This one could go either way - I think the Playstation 3 might suffer from "Super Smash Bros Brawl" syndrome here where it's sort of lost in between an all-time greater console and the more recent and powerful version. Meanwhile, Gamecube is the Melee in this comparison, for obvious reasons.
3) Playstation 3

7) Playstation Vita
2) Wii

1) PC/Mac
9) MSX

5) Nintendo 64 - I find the idea of the PSP being a 4 seed and the N64 being a 5 seed on GameFAQs VERY funny
4) Playstation Portable

6) Dreamcast - The Dreamcast catches a break for once in its short life
14) Virtual Boy

7) Master System
2) Playstation

1) Gameboy
9) Game and Watch

5) Genesis - Yeah, this one isn't going to be close, either.
4) Xbox

6) Wii U
3) DS - I felt like this match was going to be close enough to write a blurb about, but I thought about it and there's really no justification for taking the Wii U here.

10) Game Boy Color
2) Super Nintendo - This is an unreasonable clash of juggernauts for a 2/10 matchup. In a GameFAQs contest the GBC draws no lower than a 4 seed I think. No console got done dirtier in this bracket.

1) Playstation 2
4) Game Boy Advance

3) Switch - I could see this going either way. It's hard for me to tell if the Playstation 4 is a console that GameFAQs voters LOVE, or if it's merely one that is a vehicle for a bunch of games that people like. The Nintendo consoles simply have a more defined brand nowadays and the Switch kind of stands out here.
2) Playstation 4

1) Xbox 360
4) NES - I genuinely think that the Xbox 360 is by no means reviled here on GameFAQs and I think the 360 did a lot to repair the Xbox brand's image. But uh yeah it's gonna get flattened here.

6) Gamecube - The SFF here is going to be hilarious. This is going to be the match (as well as Gamecube/PS3) that Board 8 gets right and casual bracketeers get wrong... unless of course I'm totally wrong and the PS3 or Wii wins here, then nevermind.
2) Wii

1) PC/Mac
5) Nintendo 64 - The PC probably is the greatest gaming system of all time, but that's basically cheating and voters all know that. Besides, this is just not a PC gaming website. N64 dominates.

6) Dreamcast
2) Playstation - The Dreamcast is, for me, one of the most nostalgic game consoles despite me never owning one - it feels like the last gasp of a particular era of gaming. I just felt like writing something about the Dreamcast.

1) Gameboy - Uhhh, I guess it's POSSIBLE the Genesis wins here...?
5) Genesis

3) DS
2) Super Nintendo - My god the SNES has it easy here.

1) Playstation 2 - It's possible that I am underestimating the PS3/PS4 in this bracket, but I am not going to underestimate the PS2.
3) Switch

4) NES - It's possible that I am overrating the NES here? Voters might be just a little bit too young to vote it in droves here, and the Gamecube boldly represents a very strong era of gaming.
6) Gamecube

5) Nintendo 64
2) Playstation - This is probably the toughest match to call in the bracket. The PS1 is probably held in higher regard overall, but the N64's top heavy lineup featuring OoT and SM64 cannot be counted out here.

1) Gameboy
2) Super Nintendo - The Gameboy always felt like a weaker version of the home Nintendo consoles. The SNES doubles up here.

1) Playstation 2 - PS2 just too strong.
4) NES

2) Playstation
2) Super Nintendo - SNES just too strong. These matches are both formalities.

1) Playstation 2
2) Super Nintendo - I don't think the SNES can possibly lose this contest. I don't think it has a single peer.
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Yesmar_
07/10/20 6:48:28 PM
#12:


SNES and NES got Zelda 1'd in the seedings because the video I used took Metacritic scores into account. GBC being so low was my own thing, I'll admit, since the video didn't include handhelds, but length of support was one of the metrics used, and I figured GBC might be kind of lower since it wasn't around very long. And I needed something interesting for the Xbox One to go up against.

Odyssey shouldn't be a 16 seed either, but I thought it appropriate to put it in the first match.

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Paratroopa1
07/10/20 6:59:20 PM
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Odyssey being a 16 seed is perfectly fine, it's value is in name and achievement only, nobody here has actually played one any more than they've played whatever the hell a Sinclair Spectrum is. I think even something like the Colecovision would have a better playrate than the Odyssey.

GB as a 1 seed and GBC as a 10 seed isn't gonna pan out though, given that the GBC is basically a souped up GB and although the GBC era was relatively short and doesn't have many heavy hitters, it's almost entirely associated with the golden age of Pokemon (even though R/B is a GB game) and that combined with the fact that it plays all GB games and isn't particularly distinct from the GB means I'd almost consider giving it the edge over the GB outright.
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Paratroopa1
07/10/20 7:00:02 PM
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Most of the seedings I realize aren't your fault by the way, lol, it's just funny how it shakes out when we're not considering GFAQs strength
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OrangeCrush980
07/10/20 7:19:07 PM
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Paratroopa1 posted...

10) Game Boy Color
2) Super Nintendo - This is an unreasonable clash of juggernauts for a 2/10 matchup. In a GameFAQs contest the GBC draws no lower than a 4 seed I think. No console got done dirtier in this bracket.


I like the GBC but does it really have that much going for it outside of Pokemon and Zelda? And a lot of people don't even care about the Oracle Zeldas?
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Paratroopa1
07/10/20 7:50:37 PM
#16:


Yeah but it has Pokemon
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Yesmar_
07/13/20 11:44:52 PM
#17:


Bump

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Jakyl25
07/14/20 11:50:06 AM
#18:


Paratroopa1 posted...
What is a Pong? Like Pong, the game?


A lot of 1st gen consoles were just identical home versions of Pong
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Paratroopa1
07/15/20 1:57:44 AM
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Now that I've looked up the Capcom Power System *Changer* I realize it's a type of arcade board that was the one they used for SFII so I guess I have to revise my prediction on the Switch, it only gets like 87% or something
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TsunamiXXVIII
07/18/20 8:25:52 PM
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Yesmar_ posted...
And I bow my head in shame in advance of being told that there is a huge console I completely forgot about.

Nothing huge, but there's stuff as high as the 8 line that I've never heard of (seriously wtf is a Stadia) and yet the PC-98 is absent. I honestly thought that ro get to 64, you might even need to include its less famous predecessor, the PC-88, as like a 16-seed or something.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo themselves consider the GBC just an upgraded version of the original GB rather than a new system, akin to what the DSi is to the DS.

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Paratroopa1
07/19/20 7:23:58 AM
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The Stadia is Google's recent attempt to do like, cloud based gaming that streams the game to your device? I haven't seen anyone have a positive opinion about it and it sounds like a pretty useless and terrible console.
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Corrik7
07/19/20 8:15:03 AM
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I don't see why Ouya would lose to a console no one has ever heard of.

I also don't see why people are negating the amount Playstation fanboys will anti-vote xbox consoles.

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Leonhart4
07/19/20 10:03:30 AM
#23:


Corrik7 posted...
I don't see why Ouya would lose to a console no one has ever heard of.

I also don't see why people are negating the amount Playstation fanboys will anti-vote xbox consoles.

The second statement explains the first

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