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DarthAragorn
07/09/20 1:03:39 PM
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That is all
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Doom_Art
07/09/20 1:04:26 PM
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Hate that asshole

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ToPoPO
07/09/20 1:07:54 PM
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Doom_Art
07/09/20 1:09:19 PM
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ToPoPO posted...
@2Pacavelli
Lemme sum up what he'll say

"Well he didn't say THAT"

"Well he DID say it but you're completely misrepresenting his meaning!"

"He doesn't actually hate the Jewish people, he's just not a zionist!"

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DarkRoast
07/09/20 1:14:15 PM
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If nothing else, Farrakhan is a good example of how you can be unquestionably racist, no matter what race you are.


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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 2:38:03 PM
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I'm not offended.

You're entitled to your opinion, I think he is God's man on Earth. I stand with Farrakhan

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alimajor
07/09/20 2:43:14 PM
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I need help, Im black and I still have no idea what the truth is about Farrakhan.

It seems like the community is rather split. Theres a a faction thats ride or die for the guy and theres another side that wont put right call him a racist POS but they consider him sus at best. Whats the truth?
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DarkRoast
07/09/20 2:44:31 PM
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alimajor posted...
I need help, Im black and I still have no idea what the truth is about Farrakhan.

It seems like the community is rather split. Theres a a faction thats ride or die for the guy and theres another side that wont put right call him a racist POS but they consider him sus at best. Whats the truth?

Dude literally believes white people were genetically engineered to be evil by a scientist

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 2:46:02 PM
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alimajor posted...
I need help, Im black and I still have no idea what the truth is about Farrakhan.

It seems like the community is rather split. Theres a a faction thats ride or die for the guy and theres another side that wont put right call him a racist POS but they consider him sus at best. Whats the truth?

He's been lied on heavy because he does a lot of Good for Black people and he's vocal on US military tyranny overseas.

The Nation Of Islam has two private schools in NYC, 1 in Chicago many in California and Houston. They end gang beefs and warfare and even defend Black politicians when they face death threats from Anti Black racist individuals.

For example Senator Al Green ran to the NOI for protection after Trump supporters threatened to lynch him for testifying against Trump at his impeachment. They get a very bad wrap

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Doom_Art
07/09/20 2:51:03 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
and he hates jewish people
oh golly does he ever

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Tryhaptaward
07/09/20 2:51:05 PM
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alimajor posted...
I need help, Im black and I still have no idea what the truth is about Farrakhan.

It seems like the community is rather split. Theres a a faction thats ride or die for the guy and theres another side that wont put right call him a racist POS but they consider him sus at best. Whats the truth?

He praises Hitler, that's all you need to know about him and those who follow him
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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 2:51:47 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
and he hates jewish people

He doesn't though. Even his violin trainer is a Jewish woman. He has never said he hated Jews

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 2:52:05 PM
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Tryhaptaward posted...
He praises Hitler, that's all you need to know about him and those who follow him

That's an old lie. He said Hitler was a wicked ruler

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TheMikh
07/09/20 2:53:19 PM
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Tryhaptaward posted...
He praises Hitler, that's all you need to know about him and those who follow him
it's not that simple

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Tryhaptaward
07/09/20 2:53:40 PM
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TheMikh posted...
it's not that simple

YIKES
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alimajor
07/09/20 2:54:49 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
He's been lied on heavy because he does a lot of Good for Black people and he's vocal on US military tyranny overseas.

The Nation Of Islam has two private schools in NYC, 1 in Chicago many in California and Houston. They end gang beefs and warfare and even defend Black politicians when they face death threats from Anti Black racist individuals.

For example Senator Al Green ran to the NOI for protection after Trump supporters threatened to lynch him for testifying against Trump at his impeachment. They get a very bad wrap

I mean this says a lot about the NOI which, as a whole, I dont think or any worse than other religious faction. Malcolm X is an idle of mine and I know that Elijah Muhammad did some great things for black people but hes kind of suspect as well.

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 3:03:08 PM
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alimajor posted...
I mean this says a lot about the NOI which, as a whole, I dont think or any worse than other religious denominations. Malcolm X is an idle of mine and I know that Elijah Muhammad did some great things for black people but hes kind of suspect as well.

Can you tell me a little more about Farrakhan himself.

Farrakhan resurrected the NOI on his own after Elijah Muhammads son tried to bury it and destroy the former works. (Elijah Muhammads son Warith Deen Muhammad disagreed with the teachings and has grievances due to family disputes)

He sold everything all the farms the Black banks schools etc. Everything that was built up. Farrakhan helped rebuild it deon the bottom up and has been a string force in doing positive things for Black people which is why so many Rappers and Entertainers gravitate stand strongly with him.

He's even worked with the Native American and Hispanic communities, donated a water filtration system to Haiti during the Earthquake crisis. Has helped build programs for Cuban doctors to train US students in medicine so they can become Doctors for cheap. He worked with a lot of leaders that the USA considers to be enemies so that's one reason why some decide to hate him. Those leaders weren't bad people though (Fidel Castro Muammar Ghadaffi). Even Malcolm X was a friend of Castro

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TheMikh
07/09/20 3:03:13 PM
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Tryhaptaward posted...
YIKES
that's really not a reasonable response - truly reddit caliber antics

while the mythology of the org and utterances of its leader are - dare i say - problematic, historically speaking he and his org have done a great deal for black liberation, never mind cleaning up and rendering services to communities, helping to reform criminals, combating urban malaise, and a constant voice against white supremacy, (neo-)imperialism, police brutality, and what not

furthermore, many of us have relatives, immediate even, that are or have been associated with the organization, more who are sympathetic

malcolm and elijah's writings remain rather widely read to this day, malcolm's talking points pertaining to pro-black community praxis remaining on the tip of the tongue among many

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 3:10:18 PM
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https://youtu.be/JfKMTCuh3fg

The Jewish Defense League called for his death in the 80s and called for his Death.

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=199784750899545&_rdr

This Facebook video is his full statement on Hitler that people keep taking out of context.

They were calling him the Black Hitler.

He said well Hitler rose his people up from nothing after the destruction of WW1. So hes rising his people up from nothing as well but dont compare me to your wicked killers. Hitler was a wicked Killer and not a great person for him because he was a racist. He made that plain but people keep taking the first statement out of context from the rest of his statement. This was an old criticism from the 80s that was seen as nonsense a long time ago but the media spams that false statement whenever he comes up in the media

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FlameTurtle
07/09/20 3:11:11 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
He doesn't though. Even his violin trainer is a Jewish woman. He has never said he hated Jews
Was he has a Jewish friend really the best response you could come up with there

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 3:11:47 PM
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Nation of Islam helping Breonna Taylor's boyfriend

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 3:15:00 PM
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TheMikh posted...
that's really not a reasonable response - truly reddit caliber antics

while the mythology of the org and utterances of its leader are - dare i say - problematic, historically speaking he and his org have done a great deal for black liberation, never mind cleaning up and rendering services to communities, helping to reform criminals, combating urban malaise, and a constant voice against white supremacy, (neo-)imperialism, police brutality, and what not

furthermore, many of us have relatives, immediate even, that are or have been associated with the organization, more who are sympathetic

malcolm and elijah's writings remain rather widely read to this day, malcolm's talking points pertaining to pro-black community praxis remaining on the tip of the tongue among many

The Nation of Islam in many ways is responsible for the creation of Hip Hop as well. The 5% Nation of Gods and Earths which is a splinter group are the main group of people involved with early Hip Hop in NYC and its culture. Hip Hop culture comes from a lot of the teachings of the Nation of Islam. Even down to how swine is vehemently prohibited

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TheMikh
07/09/20 3:19:04 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
The Nation of Islam in many ways is responsible for the creation of Hip Hop as well. The 5% Nation of Gods and Earths which is a splinter group are the main group of people involved with early Hip Hop in NYC and its culture. Hip Hop culture comes from a lot of the teachings of the Nation of Islam. Even down to how swine is vehemently prohibited
oh, absolutely. the five percenters definitely have a prominent presence among the legends in hip hop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Five_percenters

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 3:21:16 PM
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TheMikh posted...
oh, absolutely. the five percenters definitely have a prominent presence among the legends in hip hop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Five_percenters

Right their primary book of Wisdom the 120 Lessons come from the Supreme Wisdom the core book of the Nation of Islam. A lot of Rap lyrics and tropes you may hear in songs come from that book. Like the 85% deaf dumb and blind, 10% blood suckers and 5% righteous teachers

Even a lot of soul songs of the 70s are kicking the same knowledge and wisdom. Earth wind and fire, Kool and The Gang etc.

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brokenfingers
07/09/20 3:21:31 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
He's been lied on heavy because he does a lot of Good for Black people and he's vocal on US military tyranny overseas.

The Nation Of Islam has two private schools in NYC, 1 in Chicago many in California and Houston. They end gang beefs and warfare and even defend Black politicians when they face death threats from Anti Black racist individuals.

For example Senator Al Green ran to the NOI for protection after Trump supporters threatened to lynch him for testifying against Trump at his impeachment. They get a very bad wrap
Lied on my fucking ass.

This fuck-stick was really all over the tv in the 80s and 90s. So yeah, I know from his own mouth what he's about and can only wait for the day humanity invents a 1000-foot long cock to impale up his asshole.

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BignutzisBack
07/09/20 3:22:04 PM
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Doom_Art
07/09/20 3:29:54 PM
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FlameTurtle posted...
Was he has a Jewish friend really the best response you could come up with there
Not even a friend

A violin trainer

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TheMikh
07/09/20 3:30:14 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Right their primary book of Wisdom the 120 Lessons come from the Supreme Wisdom the core book of the Nation of Islam. A lot of Rap lyrics and tropes you may hear in songs come from that book. Like the 85% deaf dumb and blind, 10% blood suckers and 5% righteous teachers

Even a lot of soul songs of the 70s are kicking the same knowledge and wisdom. Earth wind and fire etc.
ahhh, hadn't heard of either before now; i'd been under the impression that the noi's core text was message to the blackman in america

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PrettyBoyFloyd
07/09/20 3:41:07 PM
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Doesn't he have like 40 or 50 wives?

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 3:53:00 PM
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TheMikh posted...
ahhh, hadn't heard of either before now; i'd been under the impression that the noi's core text was message to the blackman in america

That's the main message to the Black man and Woman in America, and also to all people really.

But the core book that's given to registered Muslims is the Supreme Wisdom which is a book of Esoteric Wisdom. It was not supposed to be put in the public but The 5 Percent leader had brought it to the streets because he wanted to reach the street youth.

There was some disagreement between the Nation and 5 Pecenters over that initially. The Wisdom is supposed to be taught in a structured setting with classmates and drills. It is the core part of the training that Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali and Farrakhan underwent. It transforms you from being a normal man with a slave mentality to becoming mentally free and helps you come into understanding your purpose and what you have to do while you're on Earth. Instructions from Allah S.W.T himself.

So taking the structure out the lessons wasn't doing the teachings justice or the people learning from them. Joining the Nation requires discipline from its members though, no drinking, smoking, fornication, etc.

The 5 percenters felt like the restrictions might be too tough for the people stuck in the street life and they needed the wisdom of the book so they spread it anyway. Eventually it was built upon to make the 120 Lessons.

Now theres no issues a lot of the members of the NOI and 5 Percent Nation. Many former members of the 5 Percent are in the Nation and vice versa. Including top ones. The Nation of Islam is like a more structured disciplined 5 Percent Nation that does work on a Global geopolitical scale.

https://youtu.be/_LVoCdTxXyM

The Allahs School in Mecca has a YouTube channel has a lot of interviews from Five Percenters and former NOI members on its history and events that took place back in the 60s even involving Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali. Always remember though that its coming from their perspective

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TheMikh
07/09/20 4:08:27 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...

thanks for the clarification. i'll check it out.

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DarthAragorn
07/09/20 4:16:44 PM
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https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/nation-of-islam-farrakhan-in-his-own-words

Yeah try to defend these.

He can do positive things for black people and still be a massive, flaming piece of shit.
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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 4:44:31 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/nation-of-islam-farrakhan-in-his-own-words

Yeah try to defend these.

He can do positive things for black people and still be a massive, flaming piece of shit.

The ADL used to spy on MLK Jr. And Also labeled Malcolm X as the number 1 anti semite. I assume a lot of these statements are out of context and misrepresented just like the false Hitler statement above.

Of all his years doing work in his life he never called for the death of Jews but many Jews called for the death of him and his doctors even tried to assassinate him.

Why is it that when white people don't like what Black people have to say the first thing they think about is murdering that leader? We're tired of your society assassinating and calling for the death of our leaders. And we're tired of have our associations gate kept by other groups of people

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BeyondWalls
07/09/20 4:47:20 PM
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Reminder that Farrakhan called L Ron Hubbard a genius and has infected the NOI with Scientology.

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FlameTurtle
07/09/20 6:13:12 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Dude literally believes white people were genetically engineered to be evil by a scientist
I also love how paca just ignored this post entirely

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Southernfatman
07/09/20 6:16:22 PM
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FlameTurtle posted...
I also love how paca just ignored this post entirely

He will block people for pointing it out. He did me. Then he (and others) wonder people won't like/listen to the "honorable" Louis Farrakhan.

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andel
07/09/20 6:18:13 PM
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anyone that defends farrakhan is no better than a neo nazi because that's basically what he is with his constant nazi talking points

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FlameTurtle
07/09/20 6:25:29 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
He will block people for pointing it out. He did me. Then he (and others) wonder people won't like/listen to the "honorable" Louis Farrakhan.
Sounds like a real winner. Im just surprised that he didnt go with youre taking him out of context! with that one too

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 7:05:20 PM
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FlameTurtle posted...
I also love how paca just ignored this post entirely

Tell me about the Christians and Jews who believe in the Hamitic Curse and the Curse of Canaan myth.

Blacks were actually enslaved and killed because of Whites belief in this myth and nobody has apologized for this. The Orthodox Jewish community actually still reveres Rabbi Rashi the person who created this myth and put it on Blacks and invented the term Negro and wrote all sorts of other perverse writings on Blacks including that they are cursed to be forever slaves for all generations, sexually perverted and thieves who cannot tell the truth. We still deal with the after effects of this negative propaganda to this very day. And we have never received any apologies from the Jewish community nor have we forced or dictated who their leaders should be or who they associate with. Like many do with us.

Even Barack Obama was forced to lie about his associations with Farrakhan. Do you see Blacks questioning Jews about their religious leaders and associations? Or wishing death on their leaders? Or chanting death to Billy Graham or whatever else evangelical pastors?

The Yakub story isn't even that Europeans are neccesarily evil but that they have a nature to conquering the darker peoples of the world. Is this not true of the history of the world? To this very day Western Nations still try to dominate non white Nations for their resources and control their internal politics and culture by "spreading democracy". I'm sure Native Americans have their myths on Europeans as well that retells the story of how they came to become a dominated and conquered people. They dont have the ability to harm any white person. Should we vilify them, micromanage them and choose their friends and leaders for them, even wish death on their leaders? Maybe if the West could create a truly just society and world and learn to leave other nations alone, we could all come to have a more healthy relationship. Farrakhan gives a mouthpiece to the struggling masses of Africa, Asia, The Caribbean as well as here in America.

It's okay of people don't like him but don't try to silence or assassinate him because he is very well loved by the people in our community. You have your beloved leaders and we have ours. We tolerate the terrible Presidents you put in office all the time

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R1masher
07/09/20 7:10:34 PM
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Farrakhan's a prophet and I think you ought to listen to
What he can say to you" What you ought to do
Is follow for now, power of the people

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DarkRoast
07/09/20 7:14:19 PM
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There are only two reasons to like Louis Farrakhan

1) You simply are unaware of his views on anything other than empowerment of African Americans
2) You actually agree with his unbelievably racist views


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lurk
07/09/20 7:21:08 PM
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lol tc is a troll nobody actually likes louis farrakhan
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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 7:24:54 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
There are only two reasons to like Louis Farrakhan

1) You simply are unaware of his views on anything other than empowerment of African Americans
2) You actually agree with his unbelievably racist views

The Left and Right have made two racists the primary options in the presidential election today.

Also was Barack Obama a racist president? He is a friend of Farrakhan


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hockeybub89
07/09/20 7:27:21 PM
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I don't have nice things to say about him or the NoI

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TheMikh
07/09/20 7:43:00 PM
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DarkRoast posted...

once read a rather compelling article effectively illustrating the complexities of our relationship with him

wish i could find it, but in a nutshell, he's like the bigoted uncle of the black civil rights movement - problematic utterances yes, but still a part of the family, a battle-scarred veteran, who has made tremendous sacrifices and contributions to the family, and we don't just cancel him because of occasional atrocious remarks because of this

and that's really all there is to it, no matter how much outsiders complain about it

at the end of the day, we've been collectively pitted against a myriad of malicious forces in this country much worse than his mouth

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mustachedmystic
07/09/20 7:49:07 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Dude literally believes white people were genetically engineered to be evil by a scientist

How the hell does he figure that? Does he think Wakanda was a real place millions of years ago?

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2Pacavelli
07/09/20 7:50:22 PM
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Your doctors tried to assassinate him by giving him 200+ radiated seeds during cancer treatment. I don't care what others have to say about him.

You can't preach peace and love and cry racism when you're still out here killing people

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FlameTurtle
07/09/20 7:50:26 PM
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TheMikh posted...
occasional atrocious remarks
I looked at the article TC posted in post 35, copied his quotes about Jewish people, and pasted them into a word document. It's 26 pages long, single spaced. Double spaced, it's 48 pages. It's 13,000 words long.

"Occasional"

I also have a hard time believing that all of these were taken out of context.

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