Board 8 > Johnbobb ranks 113 User-nominated Villain Songs [THE RANKING]

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Johnbobb
06/18/20 7:09:13 PM
#1:




What is a villain song? Maybe it's the narrator's cheeky way of introducing us to our antagonist. Maybe it's a truly cruel man boasting about his sadistic tendencies. Maybe it's an anti-hero expressing his moral struggle of whether or not he should finally cross to the dark side. Maybe it's the final obstacle on the hero's journey screaming "No, you will not continue!"

Villain songs have been around about as long as villains themselves have, and they give a brief insight into the perspective of the villain, often in stories predominantly told from the hero's perspective.

The nominated villain songs are going to be ranked on three categories:

  1. Villainy - Just how "villainous" is this character? Are they simply a misguided victim who was never given a fair chance? Or are they a truly evil monster who deserves whatever they get?
  2. Characterization - Without having seen the movie or played the game or whatever it may be, how well does this song establish who the character is and what their motivations are? Are they simplistic and one-note, or do they truly have something to say and complex emotions to express?
  3. Melody - Simply put, how good is this song? Is it a banger or a dud? Am I going to listen to this song on repeat for years or am I counting down the moments until it's over?
Each category can get up to 10 points, for a total possible of 30 points. Obviously with 100+ nominations and only 27 possible scores, there's going to be plenty of ties, which will be broken by personal preference.


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Hbthebattle
06/18/20 7:12:33 PM
#2:


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Underleveled
06/18/20 7:13:06 PM
#3:


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Bane_Of_Despair
06/18/20 7:13:06 PM
#4:


Wooooooooooo

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TheArkOfTurus
06/18/20 7:13:51 PM
#5:


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Inviso
06/18/20 7:14:17 PM
#6:


Let's do this!

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Great_Paul
06/18/20 7:14:45 PM
#7:


Taj

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Kamekguy
06/18/20 7:15:24 PM
#8:


Oh that's a beautiful banner and collection of villains and also Satan's there.

Tag.

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Johnbobb
06/18/20 7:15:28 PM
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Nominator - Source - Song

Scare - Sum 41 - Pain for Pleasure
Scare - Moana - Shiny
Scare - Beauty and the Beast - Gaston
Scare - Final Fantasy VII - One Winged Angel
Inviso - Portal - Still Alive
Inviso - Heathers: The Musical - Candy Store
Inviso - The Lion King - Be Prepared
Inviso - Charlie & the Chocolate Factory - I Want It Now
Great Paul - Charlie Daniels Band - Devil Went Down to Georgia
Great Paul - Princess and the Frog - Friends on the Other Side
Great Paul - Hunchback of Notre Dame - Hellfire
Great Paul - Beauty and the Beast 2017 - The Mob Song
NFUN - No More Heroes 2 - Philistine
NFUN - Metal Gear Rising - Collective Consciousness
NFUN - Terraria Calamity - Roar of the Jungle Dragon
NFUN - Ar Tonelico 2 - Dye: Will This Flower Bloom
paulg235 - Lazy Town - We Are Number One
paulg235 - Wind in the Willows - Secret of Survival
paulg235 - Goldfinger - Goldfinger
paulg235 - WWE - Voices
Uglyface2 - Pink Floyd - Waiting for the Worms
Uglyface2 - Avenue Q - Special
Uglyface2 - The Simpsons - Scorpio
Snake5555555555 - Wicked - Defying Gravity
Snake5555555555 - Misfits - Horror Business
Snake5555555555 - Slayer - Dead Skin Mask
Snake5555555555 - Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives - He's Back (The Man Behind the Mask)
Xeybozn - The Simpsons - See My Vest
Xeybozn - The Who - Behind Blue Eyes
Xeybozn - Hamilton - You'll Be Back
Toxtricity - Steven Universe: The Movie - Other Friends
Toxtricity - The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride - My Lullaby
Toxtricity - Myst 3: Exile - Exile
Toxtricity - Victims of Science (Portal fan song) - The Device Has Been Modified
Justin2Krelian - Ferngully - Toxic Love
BetrayedTangy - Little Shop of Horrors - Dentist!
BetrayedTangy - Starship - Kick It Up a Notch
BetrayedTangy - The Great Mouse Detective - The World's Greatest Criminal Mind
BetrayedTangy - It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - Troll Toll
KCF0107 - Figment - The Plague's Song
Hbthebattle - Pokemon Black/White - Battle! Ghetsis
Hbthebattle - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - Awaken
Hbthebattle - Terraria Calamity - Stained, Brutal Calamity
Hbthebattle - Metal Gear Rising - It Has To Be This Way
Bane - Anastasia - In the Dark of the Night
Bane - clipping. - Run for Your Life
Bane - Ice Nine Kills - IT Is The End
Bane - He Is Legend - White Bat
Raetsel Lapin - The Megas (Mega Man fan song) - Gamma Unchained
Raetsel Lapin - The Protomen (Mega Man fan song) - The Hounds
Raetsel Lapin - Sonic Advance 2 - E.G.G.M.A.N.
Raetsel Lapin - Yu-Gi-Oh! - Face Up, Face Down
TheArkOfTurus - Ayreon - Day Sixteen: Loser
TheArkOfTurus - Jesus Christ Superstar - Damned for All Time
TheArkOfTurus - The Mountain Goats - Werewolf Gimmick
TheArkOfTurus - The Dear Hunter - The Poison Woman
redrocket - The Producers - Springtime for Hitler
redrocket - Green Jelly - Three Little Pigs
redrocket - Repo! The Genetic Opera - Gold
Janus5k - Gloryhammer - Goblin King of the Darkstorm Galaxy
Janus5k - Symphony X - Set the World on Fire (The Lie of Lies)
Janus5k - Alestorm - Drink
Janus5k - Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog - Brand New Day
Jesse Custer - The Little Mermaid - Poor Unfortunate Souls
Jesse Custer - Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
Jesse Custer - Leprechaun in the Hood - The Leprechaun Rap
Jesse Custer - Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog - My Freeze Ray
Zyxyz - Ar tonelico Qoga - XaaaCi
Zyxyz - The ClueFinders 3rd Grade Adventures: Mystery of Mathra - Do You Believe in Monsters?
Zyxyz - Kill la Kill - Blumenkranz
Zyxyz - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Distant Image
cakophon - Be More Chill - Be More Chill (Pt. 1)
cakophon - Matilda the Musical - The Smell of Rebellion
cakophon - Phineas and Ferb - O.W.C.A.'s Goin' Down
cakophon - Kagerous Project - Outer Science
FL81 - Umineko (fan song) - The Great Detective Knows
FL81 - I.M. Meen - Intro
FL81 - Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure - Evil Queen
FL81 - Pokemon - Double Trouble
Player 0 - Wander Over Yonder - I'm the Bad Guy
Player 0 - How the Grinch Stole Christmas - You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch
Player 0 - Deltarune the Musical - The World Revolving
Player 0 - Eminem - Stan
Raka Putra - Random Encounter (fan song) - Just Monika
Raka Putra - Hairspray - Miss Baltimore Crabs
Raka Putra - Jesus Christ Superstar - King Herod's Song
Raka Putra - Rocky Horror Picture Show - Sweet Transvestite
MetalmindStats - Portal 2 - Want You Gone
banshiryuu - Ar tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel - EXEC_Z/
banshiryuu - beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL - Despair of ELFERIA
banshiryuu - Pokemon XYZ - Rocket-dan Danka
banshiryuu - Hyadain - Made of Metal
UF8 - Show By Rock - Solitude of Judgment
UF8 - Wake Up, Girls - Resurrection
UF8 - Shoujo Kageki Revue Starlight - Pride and Arrogance (Aijou Karen vs Tendou Maya)
UF8 - Umineko - Egurite
Underleveled - Little Shop of Horrors - Feed Me
Underleveled - Conker's Bad Fur Day - Sloprano
sergiocornaga - The Simpsons - Dr. Zaius
sergiocornaga - Steven Universe - What's the Use of Feeling (Blue)?
Shonen Bat - Doki Doki Literature Club - Your Reality
Shonen Bat - Super Paper Mario - The Ultimate Show
GavsEvans123 - Aladdin: The Return of Jafar - You're Only Second Rate
GavsEvans123 - The Lorax - How Bad Can I Be?
GavsEvans123 - South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut - Up There
GavsEvans123 - Crash Bandicoot - Dingodile (with lyrics)
Pirateking2000 - A Hat in Time - Your Contract Has Expired
Pirateking2000 - Warhammer 40K (fan song) - Devourer
Pirateking2000 - Blazblue - Endless Despair
Pirateking2000 - Sonic Forces - Infinite
azuarc - South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut - I Can Change
azuarc - Phantom of the Opera - Music of the Night

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Snake5555555555
06/18/20 7:15:29 PM
#10:


Hype

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Johnbobb
06/18/20 7:16:58 PM
#11:


Kamekguy posted...
and also Satan's there
fun fact, there are 3 different Satan songs in this ranking, none of which were from the same source

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Shonen_Bat
06/18/20 7:25:12 PM
#12:


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Inviso
06/18/20 7:28:09 PM
#13:


Wait a second...

Defying Gravity isn't a villain song. >_>

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Pirateking2000
06/18/20 7:33:56 PM
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Johnbobb
06/18/20 7:35:05 PM
#15:




113. Despair of ELFARIA
Source: beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL
Villain: Ferira
Nominator: banshiryuu (3 left)

https://youtu.be/RNmTgi43zuo

Villainy: 1
Characterization: 1
Melody: 3
Total: 5/30

There are only four songs out of the 113 nominated that got a score of 1 point in characterization. Putting aside how I feel about the song for a moment, in terms of the character this is about (that blue mech thing on the robot dog), this song tells me literally nothing beyond "it's a character in a rhythm game." I would've had no idea this song was supposed to be about a villain had it not been nominated in villain songs, and even when trying to scrape together lore about the character, I get nothing about them from the song. That being said, the song itself is... ok. I actually kinda dug the celtic feel of it at first, which wasn't what I expected from a beatmania game. Then it quickly became exactly what I expected from a beatmania game which has never really been my thing.

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KCF0107
06/18/20 7:42:58 PM
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And a VGMC winner bites the dust
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NFUN
06/18/20 7:48:11 PM
#17:


that song should've gotten a 10/30

0 villiany 0 characterization 10 melody

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Johnbobb
06/18/20 7:48:31 PM
#18:




112. Dr. Zaius
Source: The Simpsons - Stop the Planet of the Apes. I Want to Get Off!
Villain: Dr. Zaius
Nominator: sergiocornaga (1 left)

https://youtu.be/vWKV4Uj1SVc

Villainy: 1
Characterization: 1
Melody: 3
Total: 5/30

Don't get me wrong, I like Dr. Zaius! For a super brief joke reference in a cartoon, it's definitely memorable and fun! Is it a good song? Ehhhhhh... I mean, Rock Me Amadeus is a pretty decent song, sure. And this is definitely a not as good version of that! It's funny. It definitely got a laugh out of me when I saw it the first time, maybe even the first couple times. I also didn't get it the first time I saw it, because I was a kid at the time and didn't know what Planet of the Apes was. And for someone who hasn't seen Dr. Zaius to get the reference, what does this tell you about him? Well, he's a doctor, given the name. MAYBE he's an ape, but even that is unclear without the visuals to go along with it.Fun, sure. Villain song? No.


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Johnbobb
06/18/20 7:49:35 PM
#19:


(for the record, there aren't any 0s given out, the scale only went 1-10, so the minimum possible score is a 3. That's not to say some songs didn't definitely deserve 0s though)

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NFUN
06/18/20 7:51:01 PM
#20:


was a joke to deflect where the points went to

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Johnbobb
06/18/20 7:51:32 PM
#21:


NFUN posted...
was a joke to deflect where the points went to
I got that, I just also wanted to clarify

edit: ||shit this isn't discord||

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Great_Paul
06/18/20 7:55:56 PM
#22:


I haven't seen Planet of the Apes so I still don't really know much about Dr. Zaius.

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06/18/20 8:00:08 PM
#23:


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Johnbobb
06/18/20 8:21:07 PM
#24:



111. The World Revolving
Source: Man on the Internet - Deltarune the Musical
Villain: Jevil
Nominator: Player 0 (3 left)

https://youtu.be/4WQyBHdcTdY

Villainy: 3
Characterization: 3
Melody: 1
Total: 7/30

Goddamn. So, much like Undertale, Deltarune has a pretty great chiptune soundtrack. Then this guy comes along, adds lyrics and vocals to the songs roughly in sync with the tunes, and suddenly the music becomes much, much worse. Some songs are meant to have vocals. This definitely, definitely wasn't, because holy shit these vocals sound awful. Multiple vocal tracks are laid over top of each other, and they're all irritating, but combined they make each other worse. The song was grating to get through.

Ranking this for characterization and villainy is tougher because all the lyrics are thrown at you barely comprehensibly. I had to separately pull up the lyrics after listening to try and get what he was saying, because even having played this game, it was hard to tell what the hell the singer was on about. Jevil's whole thing is that he's both a jester and a devil, but beyond that, it's hard to really get much from the song. Ultimately Jevil comes across as just kind of crazy and chaos-driven moreso than evi, without clear motivation or desires.

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TheArkOfTurus
06/18/20 8:27:02 PM
#25:


I like the banners!

(I have no idea what you're going to do for half my songs, though.)

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06/18/20 8:28:45 PM
#26:


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Johnbobb
06/18/20 8:32:37 PM
#27:


TheArkOfTurus posted...
I like the banners!
Thank you!

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banshiryuu
06/18/20 8:36:04 PM
#28:


I agree, the banners are awesome!! I kinda figured ELFERIA was getting a low characterization score so it was risky, and the risk proved to be a bad risk compounded with you not liking the song lol. I was originally regretting going with this over the first song, Rengoku no Elferia, cause Rengoku is a little more on the nose with "final boss song in rhythm game form" but given the writeup I don't think it would've mattered so I don't really regret it after all.
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Hbthebattle
06/18/20 8:37:30 PM
#29:


I didnt even know Beatmania games HAD stories
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Bane_Of_Despair
06/18/20 8:38:29 PM
#30:


Whoa yea wtf the banners are awesome. Dunno what you're gonna do for some of mine though lol

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Johnbobb
06/18/20 8:39:30 PM
#31:


Hbthebattle posted...
I didnt even know Beatmania games HAD stories
I didn't either!


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Jesse_Custer
06/18/20 8:40:34 PM
#32:


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NFUN
06/18/20 8:43:27 PM
#33:


What, you thought the names were just random words that sound cool? I assure you, there are very valid reasons for names like Tricoro, Cannon Ballers and Lincle

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PIayer_0
06/18/20 8:44:36 PM
#34:


Now I want to see what the other Melody 1 songs are, if any...

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Pirateking2000
06/18/20 8:48:29 PM
#35:


Also digging the banners

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Johnbobb
06/18/20 8:50:27 PM
#36:


NFUN posted...
What, you thought the names were just random words that sound cool? I assure you, there are very valid reasons for names like Tricoro, Cannon Ballers and Lincle
I mean... yeah, to be honest I completely did.

next you're gonna be telling me the names of the Atelier games actually mean something

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Hbthebattle
06/18/20 8:52:33 PM
#37:


Johnbobb posted...

I mean... yeah, to be honest I completely did.

next you're gonna be telling me the names of the Atelier games actually mean something

Aren't they just the name of the main character most of the time?
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Johnbobb
06/18/20 8:54:03 PM
#38:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Whoa yea wtf the banners are awesome.

Pirateking2000 posted...
Also digging the banners
Thanks :D

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azuarc
06/18/20 8:58:39 PM
#39:


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redrocket
06/18/20 9:00:57 PM
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NFUN
06/18/20 9:05:21 PM
#41:


Johnbobb posted...
I mean... yeah, to be honest I completely did.
i did too and still do

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NFUN
06/18/20 9:05:44 PM
#42:


Hbthebattle posted...
Aren't they just the name of the main character most of the time?
literally always AFAIK aside from mana khemia

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FL81
06/18/20 9:36:09 PM
#43:


10/10 topic already just for the effort put into the banners

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NFUN
06/18/20 9:36:51 PM
#44:


oh yeah wait i thought by "banner" people were talking about the title card

the banners are sick

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banshiryuu
06/18/20 9:42:56 PM
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I think Lincle is the only name directly related to the "IIDX" lore, which is the name of the Kingdom that the game's main event takes place in. Lincle Kingdom then loosely plays into SPADA's Qprogue, and subsequently PENDUAL's Qpronicle Chord where Despair is from. Those are the only three games that really had what is a true story, though the characters from the trilogy show up nowadays still. tricoro did have some story stuff that played into events but is more tangentially related to the Qpro storyline (Red Ripika being the final boss) than the other three games' big events.

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azuarc
06/18/20 10:26:40 PM
#46:


NFUN posted...
literally always AFAIK aside from mana khemia

There's a character named Escha & Logy? Man, her parents must have hated her.

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Johnbobb
06/18/20 10:33:42 PM
#47:




110. He's Back (The Man Behind the Mask)
Source: Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives
Villain: Jason Voorhees
Nominator: Snake5555555555 (3 left)
Favorite lyric: "You're deep in love / But you're deeper in the woods"

https://youtu.be/XKvdaeP99_8

Villainy: 4
Characterization: 2
Melody: 1
Total: 7/30

Man, what the fuck Alice Cooper. I mean, I like Alice Cooper, but this is some corny garbage. Had Cooper ever seen a Friday the 13th movie before this, because holy shit does this completely miss the feeling of the entire franchise. Hell, it misses the feeling of horror in general. Whose idea was this? Who approved this? This might be the worst thing I've ever seen Alice Cooper do. It's so vague that I wouldn't even know it was about Jason without the "ooh ooh ooh ah ah ahs." The only thing stopping this song from being dead last is the fact that it inevitably gets some points for villainy, because yeah, masked man stalking a couple in the woods is pretty damn villainous, but even then it only scratches the surface of villainy given how vague the song was lyrically.

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NFUN
06/18/20 10:37:25 PM
#48:


azuarc posted...
There's a character named Escha & Logy? Man, her parents must have hated her.
The main character is Eschatology, the emissary of death and harbinger of the apocalypse

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Johnbobb
06/18/20 10:41:00 PM
#49:


I meant to include favorite lyrics for all of them so here's the others

Despair of ELFERIA - N/A
Dr Zaius - "He can talk / He can talk / He can talk / I can siiiiiing!"
The World Revolving - "We're created just to die / Mortal sin's the reason why"

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Snake5555555555
06/18/20 10:46:35 PM
#50:


Wow I was not expecting that. I like the song a lot! Pretty catchy and some solid (if not mind blowing) guitar work at the least. And I think the lyrics create a spooky atmosphere well enough, though I guess I can agree it isn't totally obvious it is about Jason just from the lyrics.

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