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Balrog0
06/03/20 1:58:20 PM
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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/500922-markey-harris-booker-to-introduce-resolution-calling-for-elimination-of?amp

Rep Justin Amash also has a bill along these lines. But I feel like this is a lot more meaningful for lots of reasons.

Hope it gets traction, maybe at least Dem leadership will get behind it...

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monkmith
06/03/20 1:59:06 PM
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bitch will have it killed in committee.

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ThePieReborn
06/03/20 2:04:37 PM
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A very uphill battle, to say the least.

I'm not entirely sold on total abolishment (I've had experiences both defending clients via qualified immunity and attacking defendants' assertions of qualified immunity in court cases), but I do think the "violated clearly established law" requirement should be substantially dialed back in strictness.

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Balrog0
06/03/20 2:05:06 PM
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I mean I'm a little surprised they did it at all. I have a pretty low estimation of how valuable protests are but I'm more than happy to be wrong and eat crow.

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emblem boy
06/03/20 2:06:25 PM
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Lol, why are they taking Amash's thunder
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monkmith
06/03/20 2:07:43 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
I mean I'm a little surprised they did it at all. I have a pretty low estimation of how valuable protests are but I'm more than happy to be wrong and eat crow.
attempts have been made multiple times over the years to reform it, keeps dying when republicans get their hands on it.

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UnfairRepresent
06/03/20 2:08:45 PM
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They know it won't pass the senate
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emblem boy
06/03/20 2:10:08 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
emblem boy posted...
Lol, why are they taking Amash's thunder
Hes a Rep, not a Senator, and it needs to pass both houses of Congress before going to the president.


I know, but I guess I'm mainly curious why they didn't just work with him in this case to introduce it. I mean, it doesn't matter who starts it, it still has to go through both houses
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Balrog0
06/03/20 2:13:36 PM
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monkmith posted...
attempts have been made multiple times over the years to reform it, keeps dying when republicans get their hands on it.

I wasn't aware they'd ever done this kinda legislation before, though Im certain it won't pass in this Congress

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I mean we have protests all the time that don't work dude. I guess it depends what you're looking for, though.

UnfairRepresent posted...
They know it won't pass the senate

Yeah but it's still something, or at least I thought it was, I guess if they try this from time to time and fail it's less meaningful

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DarkChozoGhost
06/03/20 2:17:29 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
They know it won't pass the senate
Doesn't mean they shouldn't write the bill. Hurt the voting record of those pieces of garbage, irredeemable Republican senators.

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Balrog0
06/03/20 2:18:07 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Doesn't mean they shouldn't write the bill. Hurt the voting record of those pieces of garbage, irredeemable Republican senators.

Oh I mean lots of them have an interest in being on record against it, like probably every single one of them

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Balrog0
06/03/20 2:36:55 PM
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Oh I agree, I was just saying my estimation of these particular protests weren't high and I'm revising them upwards. We still don't know but I'm okay with admitting I've underestimated them you know, I wasn't shy about that so I shouldn't be shy about probably being wrong lol

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