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Eddv 06/03/20 3:49:27 AM #1: |
B8's Choice:
1788/1792 - The Federalists took the House and Senate with 100% of the vote 1796 - John Adams (F) d. Thomas Jefferson (DR) with 73.6% of the vote 1800 - John Adams (F) d. Thomas Jefferson (DR) with 80% of the vote 1804 - Thomas Jefferson (DR) d. Charles Pinckney (F) with 66% of the vote 1808 - James Madison (R) d. Charles Pincknet (F) and George Clinton (DR) with 42% of the vote 1812 - DeWitt Clinton (Anti-War) d. James Madison (R) with 90% of the vote. Hey all welcome to Board 8 Elects! a topic series in which we discuss each historical election from the perspective of the year it took place in! The idea here is to re-litigate each election from the perspective of when it took place. I will be providing each candidates platform (where possible) so the merits of the election can be discussed and voted on. If possible lets speak of the issues in the present tense. I am going to ask you vote via BOLDING the name of the candidate rather than providing a poll because I feel the poll encourages gut voting and I would really like to see some discussion. Topics will be live for 3 or 4 days - basically until I make the next topic voting will be active in this one. --- Welcome to the Election of 1816. The War of 1812 is over - with the British victorious in their war with France they had no need to continue prosecuting a war with what they regarded as a minor ally of the french and settled the war status quo antebellum in order to put the incident behind them. This likely would have been regarded as an enormous failure of Democratic-Republic policy as Madison's War was fruitless (aside from the murder of Tecumseh and the shattering of his confederation of Natives) if not for an 11th hour victory achieved after peace was negotiated but before it was announced. At the Battle of New Orleans where troops under General Andrew Jackson scored a major victory over the British which has been successfully spun as restoring American pride and honor. It even has many spinning the war as an american victory! Federalists got nearly wiped out during the mid-term elections as their opposition to the war has allowed the Republicans to paint the Federalists as being unpatriotic. The party is on its last legs and desperately needs a big victory in 1816 to stay alive. Meet the Candidates The Republicans have nominated the 58-year-old James Monroe of Virginia is a founding father, signer of the constitution and former ambassador and most recently Secretary of War under Madison. His running mate is the current Governor of New York, Daniel Tompkins. The Federalists have nominated 61-year-old Senator from New York Rufus King on the basis of his support of the War of 1812 in an attempt to stanch the bleeding. His The Issues
Are the Federalists Traitors? Do we finally have a good Republican candidate for President? Does anything besides the fact that Rufus King is an abolitionist matter to b8? Let's Vote! --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/AWY4xHy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 06/03/20 12:39:23 PM #2: |
Rufus King
I don't like all of the Federalists' proposals, but none of them are complete deal breakers, and King's opposition to slavery is appealing. Monroe clearly doesn't feel strongly about it or actively supports it. Both support the national bank, which is fine, and I don't see much of a problem expanding it. I'm not seeing any significant advantages to Monroe's policies here other than supporting a standing army, which at this point looks like a necessity. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maniac64 06/03/20 1:29:10 PM #3: |
Munroe is definitely the best candidate the Republicans have ever put forth. He is also a near opposite of Jefferson Republicans on many big issues.
But he he saved the country from Madisons disastrous choices so he gets credit for that. Not sure I actually want him to be president though, especially with a abolitionist against him. King seems like a good candidate as well and the Federalists arent campaigning on any real bad stuff atm. Going to think on this one but leaning King. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 06/03/20 5:57:46 PM #4: |
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Paratroopa1 06/03/20 6:08:42 PM #5: |
Eddv posted...
Does anything besides the fact that Rufus King is an abolitionist matter to b8?Nope! Rufus King ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 06/04/20 5:39:54 PM #6: |
Let's hear some more thoughts on King and Monroe.
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Maniac64 06/04/20 6:01:21 PM #7: |
Guess I'm leaning King
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Keltiq 06/05/20 3:46:34 PM #8: |
I joked about not voting because I'm canadian on discord, but I'll come out and vote King because abolition is very important
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