Board 8 > Do you support the death penalty?

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CedarPointcp
06/02/20 9:06:59 AM
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do you


do you support it
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Lightning Strikes
06/02/20 9:44:40 AM
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Nope. Doesn't work as a deterrent, it's more expensive than life imprisonment, and a significant number of people who are executed are innocent. I am glad that it is not just illegal in my current and original countries, but the entire continent (except for Belarus!).

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banananor
06/02/20 10:18:25 AM
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i could support the death penalty in theory in an alternate universe, but not in our current one

basically- if we were in a smaller society that couldn't reliably contain prisoners, and death was the only sure-fire way to keep them from harming people again, sure.

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foolm0r0n
06/02/20 10:24:37 AM
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banananor posted...
basically- if we were in a smaller society that couldn't reliably contain prisoners, and death was the only sure-fire way to keep them from harming people again, sure.
In this case you would soon kill off all the executioners, judges, and law enforcement in your society, in order to keep them from harming more people. Any attempt to stop the cycle of death would require immunizing a class of murderers from punishment. Then you have the worst of both worlds - no safety from murderers, nor justice for the innocent. Your alternate reality becomes our current one.

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banananor
06/02/20 10:36:16 AM
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that's a pretty interesting interpretation of what i said!

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MysticBrohan
06/02/20 11:10:46 AM
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i dont even support prison

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Safer_777
06/02/20 12:55:36 PM
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Personally I do BUT only when there is no doubt that the person is guild and did something really bad.

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Corrik7
06/02/20 1:16:50 PM
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Yes

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Aecioo
06/02/20 1:18:04 PM
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Safer_777 posted...
Personally I do BUT only when there is no doubt that the person is guild and did something really bad.

Thieves Guild is always doing bad things

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Uglyface2
06/02/20 1:31:33 PM
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Johann Unterweger is the poster boy for the death penalty. He was initially sentenced to life imprisonment, but he wrote pretty things and the Austrian government let him out. He killed some more.

Some people are dangerous. If you remove the death penalty, then the next step is removing life imprisonment. Thats how you get another Unterweger.
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MoogleKupo141
06/02/20 1:33:23 PM
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Uglyface2 posted...
Johann Unterweger is the poster boy for the death penalty. He was initially sentenced to life imprisonment, but he wrote pretty things and the Austrian government let him out. He killed some more.

Some people are dangerous. If you remove the death penalty, then the next step is removing life imprisonment. Thats how you get another Unterweger.


uh so dont take that next step??
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Snrkiko
06/02/20 1:39:10 PM
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yes in theory, but not with our current criminal justice system

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Seanchan
06/02/20 1:45:44 PM
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Safer_777 posted...
Personally I do BUT only when there is no doubt that the person is guilty and did something really bad.

This (with fixed typo).

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Lightning Strikes
06/02/20 1:53:28 PM
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There are loads of countries that havent had the death penalty for decades and still have true life imprisonment.

I also have a feeling that governments have executed more innocent people than released murderers have killed people!

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KokoroAkechi
06/02/20 1:56:56 PM
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In theory yes, but the practicality of reaching a point where beyond a shadow of a doubt in a life or death situation can be obtained without the obstruction of external powers and ideals is too far out of reach.
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ChaosTonyV4
06/02/20 2:27:58 PM
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Absolutely not.

Allowing it means someone innocent will inevitably be killed, and thats unacceptable.

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MegaWentEvil
06/02/20 2:38:28 PM
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Yes, and I don't understand how anyone doesn't.
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Zylothewolf
06/02/20 2:52:15 PM
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Yes in extreme cases. Some people will never feel remorse and are better of dead.

By extreme cases I mean guys like Anders Breivik (terrorist who killed 77 people). There is no reason why Norway should waste taxpayers money to keep that man alive.


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Uglyface2
06/02/20 2:54:41 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Absolutely not.

Allowing it means someone innocent will inevitably be killed, and thats unacceptable.

How is it any kinder to rob someone of their lives, slowly rotting away in jail, for a crime they didnt commit? At some point you have to accept that the world is flawed and that unjust punishments will be meted out.
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pjbasis
06/02/20 3:06:29 PM
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I don't really like society killing individuals, so I guess not but it's not that important to me.

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Haste_2
06/02/20 3:24:22 PM
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Generally, no. Anyone worthy of the death penalty should just be locked up securely. One exception, though: if this person is someone powerful who has a decent chance of escaping (through criminal connections) and causing a lot more harm, then I would support the death penalty.

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KingButz
06/02/20 4:09:47 PM
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No but let's bring back judicial corporal punishment in lieu of prison time
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foolm0r0n
06/02/20 5:17:33 PM
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Uglyface2 posted...
How is it any kinder to rob someone of their lives, slowly rotting away in jail, for a crime they didnt commit?
cuz they're still alive

Look up how many people get exonerated decades later. Obviously it's terrible but they are still alive.

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ChaosTonyV4
06/02/20 5:19:01 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
cuz they're still alive

Look up how many people get exonerated decades later. Obviously it's terrible but they are still alive.

This exactly.

Even if itll never be enough, you can compensate someone for unjust imprisonment, you cant repay someone for killing them.

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Sheep007
06/02/20 5:31:48 PM
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Safer_777 posted...
Personally I do BUT only when there is no doubt that the person is guild and did something really bad.
No such thing. Police can force confessions, eyewitness reports are unreliable and legal systems are prejudiced.

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Grimlyn
06/02/20 5:40:11 PM
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I don't even get what the desire for a death penalty is, as if life imprisonment isn't already hell on earth

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Safer_777
06/02/20 9:09:32 PM
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These poll results suprise me. Over half of US states have the death penalty. Yet here like 1/4 support it. Now obviously this board doesn't mean much but you would think that if the majority didn't want this, it would be illegal in all states.

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Corrik7
06/02/20 9:10:44 PM
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Safer_777 posted...
These poll results suprise me. Over half of US states have the death penalty. Yet here like 1/4 support it. Now obviously this board doesn't mean much but you would think that if the majority didn't want this, it would be illegal in all states.
Liberals are against it. Liberals control less than half the states but most the population. Not that hard to grasp tbqh.

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NeoElfboy
06/02/20 9:13:27 PM
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Safer_777 posted...
These poll results suprise me. Over half of US states have the death penalty. Yet here like 1/4 support it. Now obviously this board doesn't mean much but you would think that if the majority didn't want this, it would be illegal in all states.

In addition to what Corrik said, (a) this poll is not only open to people in the US, and in democracies outside the US the support for the death penalty is generally much lower, (b) Board 8 is, even if "old" for a gaming community, still younger than the national average (not many of us are over 40 IIRC), and youth is less supportive of the death penalty.

EDIT: Oh right, my take on the subject. There's no real reason to support the death penalty, and the second post (among others) explains why I'm opposed to it.

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red sox 777
06/02/20 9:19:12 PM
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No, and I oppose the sentence of life imprisonment without parole also.

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Natwaf_akidna
06/03/20 12:53:01 AM
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Yeah kill em

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red13n
06/03/20 12:55:33 AM
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No, but primarily for financial reasons. We end up wasting more money on these cases than we would with a life sentence.

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ColZach
06/03/20 1:46:57 AM
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You should be pro-gun, pro-choice, pro-death penalty
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Corrik7
06/03/20 3:02:36 AM
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red13n posted...
No, but primarily for financial reasons. We end up wasting more money on these cases than we would with a life sentence.
Would you be if you could only do the death penalty in 100% cases and no appeals were allowed?

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foolm0r0n
06/03/20 9:49:16 AM
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Corrik7 posted...
Would you be if you could only do the death penalty in 100% cases and no appeals were allowed?
Definitely. This is also equivalent to banning the death penalty.

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iiaattgg
06/03/20 9:55:18 AM
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I am not for it due to innocents dying

I do think that some people absolutely deserve it, but life imprisonment is equally as cruel to them so thats a fine substitute

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MariaTaylor
06/03/20 10:05:45 AM
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the government shouldn't be doing anything, least of all killing people.

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KingButz
06/03/20 10:10:42 AM
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Anything?
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MariaTaylor
06/03/20 10:15:54 AM
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Sorry, I just thought of one thing they should be doing -- fucking off.

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Dancedreamer
06/03/20 10:24:23 AM
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Uglyface2 posted...
How is it any kinder to rob someone of their lives, slowly rotting away in jail, for a crime they didnt commit? At some point you have to accept that the world is flawed and that unjust punishments will be meted out.

Life imprisonment can be remedied if evidence surfaces that the person is not guilty.
Execution cannot be undone.

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red13n
06/04/20 12:40:47 AM
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Corrik7 posted...
ed13n posted...

No, but primarily for financial reasons. We end up wasting more money on these cases than we would with a life sentence.

Would you be if you could only do the death penalty in 100% cases and no appeals were allowed?

No appeals? No.

But there would have to be a better way than what we currently have for my support.

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Corrik7
06/04/20 8:00:07 AM
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red13n posted...
No appeals? No.

But there would have to be a better way than what we currently have for my support.
Well, appeals are what cost the money.

I am saying if say. If you choose to charge for death penalty, it is 100%, zero doubt and successful. If not, they walk. This would make the death penalty cases plummet due to the standards and be for truly heinous cases, example Boston Marathon bomber.

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MoogleKupo141
06/04/20 8:21:21 AM
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what is a 100% case
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foolm0r0n
06/04/20 8:27:18 AM
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God says they deserve to die

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MoogleKupo141
06/04/20 8:30:09 AM
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oh well then yeah, I support the death penalty in those cases as long as its administered by massive flood or by turning a person to salt
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Uglyface2
06/04/20 9:17:22 AM
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Dancedreamer posted...
Life imprisonment can be remedied if evidence surfaces that the person is not guilty.
Execution cannot be undone.

You cant give someone back the years they spent locked up. Theyre tossed out with an apology and some cash. Thats not going to make up for the lost time. As far as Im concerned, its every bit as irreparable as an execution, with the added difficulty of limited appeals.
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foolm0r0n
06/04/20 9:41:12 AM
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Uglyface2 posted...
As far as Im concerned, its every bit as irreparable as an execution
Then you're dumb af

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iiaattgg
06/04/20 9:51:01 AM
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Uglyface2 posted...
You cant give someone back the years they spent locked up. Theyre tossed out with an apology and some cash. Thats not going to make up for the lost time. As far as Im concerned, its every bit as irreparable as an execution, with the added difficulty of limited appeals.
Okay well then 1 day in jail is as irreparable then since you cant get it back either

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Corrik7
06/04/20 10:25:38 AM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
what is a 100% case
I gave you a literal 100% case as an example.

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