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SwayM
05/23/20 9:40:03 AM
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Why has no one made a game since the original Crysis that showcases the power of top of the line PCs?

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Squall28
05/23/20 9:44:40 AM
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Because all you gotta do is just compare it to the console version to make it look good. Putting everything on low settings is literally the console version

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SwayM
05/23/20 9:45:33 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Because all you gotta do is just compare it to the console version to make it look good. Putting everything on low settings is literally the console version

This doesnt begin to answer my question.


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Gamerguymass
05/23/20 9:46:23 AM
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SwayM posted...
This doesnt begin to answer my question.

Nor is it even true.

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ThePieReborn
05/23/20 9:46:31 AM
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My first guess would be that there's no cost benefit in doing so. You miss out on the console marketshare and potentially strangle the PC marketshare, although the modular nature of the options menu trims that out a little bit. It also takes more resources to get those amped resolutions, particle effects, etc. Which means you miss out on even more profit because of the costs. Short version being, there's little profit to be made in making a tech demo.

But Quake 2 RTX qualifies with respect to the lighting engine.

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Evening_Dragon
05/23/20 9:49:05 AM
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It does; try a more leading question.

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Lonestar2000
05/23/20 9:51:55 AM
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LOL, remember how the TC was shilling for Star Citizen?

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SwayM
05/23/20 9:53:03 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
LOL, remember how the TC was shilling for Star Citizen?

Its hilarious you brought this up but this isnt doing what you think its doing

Star Citizen is your answer to the topic my friend.

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Lonestar2000
05/23/20 9:55:57 AM
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SwayM posted...
Its hilarious you brought this up but this isnt doing what you think its doing

Star Citizen is your answer to the topic my friend.
Sure, if it ever comes out this decade.

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SwayM
05/23/20 10:09:06 AM
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Forgettable posted...
Crysis 3.

Next question.

lol

They neutered the franchise. Try again.

Lonestar2000 posted...
Sure, if it ever comes out this decade.

You can play it today.

Star Citizen is the exact game you want when bragging about PCs and this game that seems unachievable on any other platform.

And all the reasons why you hate on it are exactly why theres really nothing else like it or no other developers trying to do anything remotely similar.

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Yomi
05/23/20 10:12:40 AM
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Because it's not worth the time, nor the effort. I think.

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Lonestar2000
05/23/20 10:13:34 AM
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SwayM posted...
lol

They neutered the franchise. Try again.

You can play it today.

Star Citizen is the exact game you want when bragging about PCs and this game that seems unachievable on any other platform.

And all the reasons why you hate on it are exactly why theres really nothing else like it or no other developers trying to do anything remotely similar.
Oh, so the finished retail version finally came out?

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SwayM
05/23/20 10:25:24 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Oh, so the finished retail version finally came out?

lol

Please continue to prove me right. This is great.

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nemu
05/23/20 10:33:13 AM
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Because we're at the point where the difference between console and PC is no longer such a jump. Max settings games can look absolutely gorgeous compared to the console version, but it's not such a stark difference that it would be worth putting time and money into making a game that has the comparative jump in scale from current level games.
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SH_expert44
05/23/20 10:35:57 AM
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I have a top of the line card and 78 terabytes of ram so i can render dew on the grass in real time, but im going to play with everything set to potato mode so i get 400k FPS.

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Zikten
05/23/20 10:39:50 AM
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more and more games on PC also come out on console these days. at least the big AAA ones anyway. and they mostly design the games now with the console version in mind. it wouldn't make financial sense for them to design it for high end pc's and cut off some of their customers
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Jabodie
05/23/20 10:41:53 AM
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If only Star Citizen wasn't complete garbage.

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SwayM
05/23/20 10:43:00 AM
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Jabodie posted...
If only Star Citizen wasn't complete garbage.

So you have no other examples of PC games that would be unachievable on consoles then

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Jabodie
05/23/20 10:45:40 AM
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SwayM posted...
So you have no other examples of PC games that would be unachievable on consoles then
Hmm, probably something like Crusader Kings or other 4X games or top notch RTS play. Things which really benefit from KBM control and suffer from console interfaces. But in good games.

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Zikten
05/23/20 10:47:47 AM
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well even those could now come out on console. they did a console port of Civilization 6 after all
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Jabodie
05/23/20 10:49:38 AM
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Zikten posted...
well even those could now come out on console. they did a console port of Civilization 6 after all
How was that btw? Was thinking about picking up the Switch version if it has decent touch control.

They fucking better make gyro aim standard on PS5 and XSeX. It makes FPS sooooo much better to play on console and I'm mad only switch games support it.

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Zikten
05/23/20 10:51:12 AM
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Jabodie posted...
How was that btw? Was thinking about picking up the Switch version if it has decent touch control.

They fucking better make gyro aim standard on PS5 and XSeX. It makes FPS sooooo much better to play on console and I'm mad only switch games support it.
I actually haven't played it. I was thinking of getting it but on xbox one recently. but I haven't done it yet. the reviews I saw said it played fine though
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Tyranthraxus
05/23/20 10:52:51 AM
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They did. The Witcher 2 with Ubersampling is still choking machines in 2020.

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I4NRulez
05/23/20 11:06:14 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They did. The Witcher 2 with Ubersampling is still choking machines in 2020.

I thought Witcher 3 was the benchmark now

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Alucard188
05/23/20 11:10:16 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
I thought Witcher 3 was the benchmark now

Witcher 3, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, FarCry 5, and GTA5 are all top benchmarking games that really stress how a PC performs. You'll notice that they're all functionally open world games. LinusTechTips likes using Anno 1800 to showcase raw CPU power.

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Tyranthraxus
05/23/20 11:14:07 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
I thought Witcher 3 was the benchmark now
Benchmarks aren't necessarily made to showcase top end PCs. The point of the benchmark is to showcase differences in performance. If no PC can run the game at a constant 60 FPS then that's a shitty benchmark.

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SwayM
05/23/20 2:42:14 PM
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Can anyone give me reasons why Star Citizen is so vile in your eyes?

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JoeBurrow
05/23/20 2:53:56 PM
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SwayM posted...
Can anyone give me reasons why Star Citizen is so vile in your eyes?
scammed people for hundreds of millions of dollars by selling ships in a game that doesn't even exist yet after 9 years of development
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Yazarogi
05/23/20 2:56:33 PM
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Elite Dangerous did what Star Citizen wanted to but seemingly can't.

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fire_bolt
05/23/20 3:26:10 PM
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Serious question. Does TC do anything except shitpost about PC gaming or can I safely put him on ignore?
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SwayM
05/23/20 3:34:50 PM
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ProfessorKukui posted...
who hurt you tc? which pc master chad hurt you? :(

I own every gaming console and a gaming PC lol

Yazarogi posted...
Elite Dangerous did what Star Citizen wanted to but seemingly can't.

Be completely forgettable? Thats simply untrue because Star Citizen does things ED could never begin to dream of.

JoeBurrow posted...
scammed people for hundreds of millions of dollars by selling ships in a game that doesn't even exist yet after 9 years of development

It does exist though. You pay money and you download the game. Throwing the word scam around doesnt mean anything here, makes you seem like you have a grudge. You wanna be cute and hold on to a release date Like when Minecraft Or PUBG had a release date and it really didnt mean a damn thing because millions were already playing it in its current state.

And regardless of how they got the money. A project that big needs hundreds of millions of dollars. Again, this is the game you all seemingly think would exist in an ecosystem without consoles holding them back. Who has the capital to produce a game like this? Whos willing to funnel hundreds of millions into a single game, only playable by a small percentage of gamers?

ED couldnt pull it off. And no one else is producing it. Yet you here it is, existing with warts and all that you cannot look past. Well continue to twiddle our thumbs and wait for this day that never comes where consoles no longer exist and suddenly theres infinite time and money to produce anything that rivals Star Citizen.

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SwayM
05/23/20 3:36:35 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Serious question. Does TC do anything except shitpost about PC gaming or can I safely put him on ignore?

Please do me this favour


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Tyranthraxus
05/23/20 3:56:43 PM
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ED and Star Citizen don't have anything in common besides "flying a spaceship around the Galaxy" and there's actually lots of games that do that.

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SwayM
05/23/20 3:57:06 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
ED and Star Citizen don't have anything in common besides "flying a spaceship around the Galaxy" and there's actually lots of games that do that.

I dont disagree with this.

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JoeBurrow
05/23/20 4:00:48 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
ED and Star Citizen don't have anything in common besides "flying a spaceship around the Galaxy" and there's actually lots of games that do that.
that's true

because one is a game you can buy and play, and the other is a scam
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Bad_Mojo
05/23/20 4:03:13 PM
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Now, Riddle me this:
Who in Gotham is ill as me?
I'll put poison in your IV
I'm cold as Mister Freeze
Act Two-Faced
You won't be asked a question
You'll be laying Dead; Shot
These birds fly, they ain't Penguins
So you'll need a Clayface
To replace your's when I bring the pain
And your girl, I'll break her back
If I'm feeling Bane

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ClunkerSlim
05/23/20 4:11:44 PM
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SwayM posted...
Why has no one made a game since the original Crysis that showcases the power of top of the line PCs?
Because no game company is going to make millions selling a game that only 1% of PC gamers can play?

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SwayM
05/23/20 4:14:07 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
Because no game company is going to make millions selling a game that only 1% of PC gamers can play?

At least someone understands

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Yazarogi
05/23/20 4:25:09 PM
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JoeBurrow posted...
that's true

because one is a game you can buy and play, and the other is a scam


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Delirious_Beard
05/23/20 4:26:11 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Serious question. Does TC do anything except shitpost about PC gaming or can I safely put him on ignore?

his entire gimmick is having the worst opinions imaginable

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SwayM
05/23/20 4:31:37 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
his entire gimmick is having the worst opinions imaginable

If you think that game development is easy, and that consoles are holding PCs back either make a game that proves me wrong or make any other point to the contrary to anything Ive said in this topic.

You can disagree with me all day long but it makes yall so mad you cant articulate why.

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fire_bolt
05/23/20 5:03:14 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...


his entire gimmick is having the worst opinions imaginable


Seems like it. Anyone willing to shill for Star Citizen in the year of our Lord 2020 probably needs a wellness check to make sure they're not writing on the walls with their own shit
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fan357
05/23/20 5:04:50 PM
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Hunt Showdown used to look incredible. But they nerfed the visuals because most people didnt have the hardware for it. Also Crytek cant optimize for shit.

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SwayM
05/23/20 8:56:22 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Seems like it. Anyone willing to shill for Star Citizen in the year of our Lord 2020 probably needs a wellness check to make sure they're not writing on the walls with their own shit

What bothers you more? That Star Citizen is the most technically impressive games available on PC? Or there will never be another game that rivals it?

Bring up release dates and their crowdsourcing, call it a scam all you want. But you literally cannot take away from the reality that as of today the build you can play of Star Citizen is the best example of what PC gaming could be without limits...and all its failures and missteps are exactly why no one else is even remotely trying to compete.


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SwayM
05/23/20 8:57:15 PM
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fan357 posted...
Hunt Showdown used to look incredible. But they nerfed the visuals because most people didnt have the hardware for it. Also Crytek cant optimize for shit.

I own this game I think since it was in beta but I hardly played it. I wonder if Ill notice a difference if I logged in today

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Yazarogi
05/24/20 2:07:48 PM
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SwayM posted...
What bothers you more? That Star Citizen is the most technically impressive games available on PC? Or there will never be another game that rivals it?

Bring up release dates and their crowdsourcing, call it a scam all you want. But you literally cannot take away from the reality that as of today the build you can play of Star Citizen is the best example of what PC gaming could be without limits...and all its failures and missteps are exactly why no one else is even remotely trying to compete.

its not though lol

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SwayM
05/24/20 2:09:03 PM
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Yazarogi posted...
its not though lol

Name anything else.

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Balrog0
05/24/20 2:14:37 PM
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SwayM posted...
Its hilarious you brought this up but this isnt doing what you think its doing

Star Citizen is your answer to the topic my friend.

Lmao

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