Board 8 > ~*Ultimaterializer's Post-Contest Analysis! - Part 2*~

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PostContestUlti
05/27/20 9:49:09 PM
#304:


Contest Semifinal: (1)The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt vs (1)The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

(1)The Witcher 3 - 14451 [55.2%]
(1)Skyrim - 11729 [44.8%]
Total Votes - 26180
Prediction Percentage - 21.57%

The time had finally come for Witcher 3 to go out there and prove what it had shown us all contest -- it was a stronger game than Skyrim. I said pre-contest that the only way for Witcher 3 to win this match is for all of the following to be true:

-Witcher 3 had to boost from Netflix
-Witcher 3 had to boost from the respect factor due to this contest's title
-Witcher 3 had to overcome a potential disparity in the Western RPG fanbase, which is fairly tight-knit about what they like
-Witcher 3 had to boost from the Switch port more than Skyrim
-Skyrim had to have a Bethesda deboost due to the company acting like a bunch of idiots

All five of this happening seemed unlikely to me, which is why I picked Skyrim. And yet you can go right down the line: check, check, check, check, check, all with ease. Netflix was likely the biggest factor, but the other stuff all happened as well. Skyrim tried to make a show of it early, but it would find out the hard way that slow starts meant nothing for Witcher 3 in this contest. This thing was close for 30 minutes, and then.... swamped. Skyrim never stood a chance, and we all saw it coming for this entire contest. Three of the final four games in the field are open world RPGs, so it's fitting that this contest would be decided by Breath of the Wild, Skyrim, and Witcher 3.

Skyrim may have lost this match with ease, but I don't think it takes away from how well Skyrim did in this contest -- being weaker than Witcher 3 doesn't mean it did badly -- and it certainly doesn't mean Skyrim didn't leave a lasting legacy on gaming. For a lot of people, Skyrim opened the door to the world of open world gaming, and I don't give a toss what anyone says or how games did things better later; Skyrim is an all-time great game. I know it's cool for the internet to hate on it and all, but I don't care. Skyrim deserves every amount of the love it got when it came out, and I hope people aren't holding Bethesda against it.

This would set up the final that we all saw coming right from round one. Zelda versus Witcher 3.

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PostContestUlti
05/27/20 9:52:40 PM
#305:


Alright, I'll put a bow on this tomorrow.

Thanks for reading and following along, all! And make sure you check out everyone else's stuff, too.

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BlAcK TuRtLe
05/28/20 1:06:59 AM
#306:


I had Witcher > Skyrim for most of bracket entry and chickened out at the last minute. It didn't end up mattering in the end, but I immediately regretted that choice after brackets locked down.

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LinkMarioSamus
05/28/20 6:19:09 AM
#307:


I would have picked Witcher if I knew much about it in advance, which I didn't obviously. Instead I had Dark Souls in the finals.

Going back to The Last of Us, even discounting all the social justice nonsense, that stat calculation is somewhat faulty because Arkham City and TLOU were both in the same division, and said division also featured the #1 game according to the stats, Chrono Trigger. I think the stats have Chrono Trigger getting something like 54% on Ocarina, so it's possible that the entire division is overvalued in the stats due to CT being so far out in front without any real evidence for it. Maybe CT scored all those blowouts because its opposition was weak, kind of like Mario Odyssey this contest?

Maybe FFX has really declined that much. I mean, Tidus completely embarrassed himself last contest, and Auron did worse against Snake than he indirectly got in 2010 since they were in the same division, and no one would sensibly claim Snake didn't decline in strength since then. Oh, and Auron did worse against Sub-Zero in 2018 than he did in 2006, and Yuna got punked by a character she had beaten before, albeit in lol four-ways.

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ctesjbuvf
05/28/20 6:24:25 AM
#308:


Almost at the finish line already!

I forgot, do we usually put the box on wiki match with the contest winner and notable matches etc after you're done with these? I think notable matches is a fun one. I'm thinking Octopath Traveler vs. Shovel Knight, Resident Evil 2 vs. Bloodborne, Persona 4 Golden vs. Xenoblade Chronicles, Breath of the Wild vs. The Witcher 3 are there for sure. Then possibly Undertale/OT, Smash/Odyssey, Dark Souls/Skyrim and Witcher/Skyrim. Might include another Persona 4 match or a Mario Kart 8 match.

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th3l3fty
05/28/20 6:32:34 AM
#309:


I had Witcher > Skyrim until the very end and switching it cost me a top 10 spot
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MetalmindStats
05/28/20 7:07:14 AM
#310:


ctesjbuvf posted...
I forgot, do we usually put the box on wiki match with the contest winner and notable matches etc after you're done with these?
These could theoretically be added immediately, except that the GotD stats still haven't been updated with the official contest winner. We all assume it'll be azuarc, for good reason, but we need official confirmation that azuarc's bracket was in fact a prizewinner first.

As for notable matches, those first four all seem like obvious shoo-ins. I also think UT/OT has to be there, as it saw the winner of the previous game contest fall in the first round, in one of the biggest Round 1 upsets both sitewide and on B8 these contests have ever seen.

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PostContestUlti
05/28/20 6:35:22 PM
#311:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Almost at the finish line already!

I forgot, do we usually put the box on wiki match with the contest winner and notable matches etc after you're done with these? I think notable matches is a fun one. I'm thinking Octopath Traveler vs. Shovel Knight, Resident Evil 2 vs. Bloodborne, Persona 4 Golden vs. Xenoblade Chronicles, Breath of the Wild vs. The Witcher 3 are there for sure. Then possibly Undertale/OT, Smash/Odyssey, Dark Souls/Skyrim and Witcher/Skyrim. Might include another Persona 4 match or a Mario Kart 8 match.
I would have been done this past weekend, but during my work from home week last week I still went in to the lab twice LOL

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Arti
05/28/20 7:30:08 PM
#312:


When I did think about my Witcher III > Skyrim pick I definitely thought about the Netflix boost it would get, plus the whole Fallout 76 debacle with Bethesda bringing Skyrim down a bit. Geralt's performance in the 2018 contest was also on my mind as well, and he did a fairly good job for a new character to the contests.

It got me my highest spot in the guru ever, so I'm pretty pleased with it.

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PostContestUlti
05/28/20 7:37:42 PM
#313:


Contest Final: (1)The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild vs (1)The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

(1)Breath of the Wild - 17050 [55.91%]
(1)Witcher 3 - 13446 [44.09%]
Total Votes - 30496
Prediction Percentage - 37.14%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fvTxv46ano

Simply because I feel like posting one final list, here is every tournament final we've ever had. I'm cheating with a couple contests, but so what?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1002-tournament-final-mario-vs-link
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1367-tournament-final-cloud-strife-vs-sephiroth
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1663-tournament-final-chrono-trigger-vs-final-fantasy-vii
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1780-tournament-final-link-vs-cloud-strife
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2019-tournament-final-sephiroth-vs-ganondorf
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2128-tournament-final-mario-vs-crono
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2131-tournament-of-champions-final-link-vs-sephiroth
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2455-tournament-final-the-legend-of-zelda-vs-final-fantasy
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2561-tournament-final-samus-aran-vs-solid-snake
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2566-battle-royale-final
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2925-tournament-final-link-cloud-l-block-snake
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3306-contest-final-link-crono-snake-cloud
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3508-contest-final-ffvii-zelda-lttp-zelda-oot-ffx
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3856-contest-final-link-vs-cloud-strife
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4195-game-of-the-decade-super-smash-bros-brawl-vs-the-legend-of
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4572-final-rounds-final-mario-vs-bowser-link-vs-ganondorf
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5266-character-battle-ix-final-draven-vs-solid-snake-vs-samus
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6177-best-game-ever-final-undertale-vs-zelda-ocarina-of-time
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6720-best-year-in-gaming-final-2001-vs-1998
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7387-final-battle-link-vs-cloud

No real reason. Just felt like pulling this all up.

Final matches are generally boring, if not screwey. Very, very few of these matches have been any good, and usually by this point we already know what's winning the contest -- even in years where the winner is out of left field. Undertale and Draven stick out, but when going through those contests live we knew what was coming.

In this final, we all knew Breath of the Wild was going to cap off its run with a win -- only final percentages mattered. When the poll first started it looked like Zelda was going to deliver another giga-beating and deliver a swift 60-40 asswhipping to Witcher 3. 60-40 in a final, if you look at the list here, is a ''huge'' blowout. It's very hard to get much better than that in the finals of a contest.

But once Witcher 3 weathered the early storm for a few hours, it did the unthinkable. No, it didn't win the match or come close -- but it ''did'' make Breath of the Wild look human, which hadn't happened in this contest even once to this point. With the assistance of Europe and the fanbase ''rallying their balls off'', Witcher 3 was able to turn a 60-40 blowout into a very, very respectable loss of 56-44. Breath of the Wild proved itself at or close to Ocarina of Time's strength for this entire contest, and Witcher 3 actually made it look mortal. I know the fans of Witcher were upset, but this is legitimately an amazing accomplishment. As a random side note, the Witcher series just passed 50 million units sold after only three games. To put that in perspective, it took the Resident Evil series 683 games to get 100 million in sales.

All that said, this contest was the Breath of the Wild Invitational, and though a lot of people are tired of Zelda always winning contests, that sentiment tends to not be there as much when something gets to win for the first time. People were happy about Link in 2002. People were happy about Majora's Mask. People were happy about Breath of the Wild. Hell, people were even happy about Ocarina in 2009. It was such a mismatch though compared to the rest of the field that I can't wait to see this thing up against some 90s games. The obvious duel we need to have is Breath vs Ocarina, but I would also love to see it against Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 7, Link to the Past, Pokemon. and so on.

All in all, this was a decent enough contest, though the vote totals blew. There was just one more thing to take care of...

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redrocket
05/28/20 8:17:10 PM
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PostContestUlti posted...
But once Witcher 3 weathered the early storm for a few hours, it did the unthinkable. No, it didn't win the match or come close -- but it ''did'' make Breath of the Wild look human, which hadn't happened in this contest even once to this point.

https://youtu.be/KHat-k8wcFw

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PostContestUlti
05/28/20 9:00:16 PM
#315:


What a fucking incredible reference. Thank you for that.

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PostContestUlti
05/28/20 9:00:44 PM
#316:


The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask vs The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Majora's Mask - 6156 [37.54%]
Breath of the Wild - 10242 [62.46%]
Total Votes - 16398

This was the clear and obvious bonus poll to have for this contest, and good ''lord'' did Breath of the Wild show up. This was just a beating right from the jump, and Majora's Mask never stood a chance.

A lot of people are calling this match SFF, but I'm not so sure. The Zelda series tends to not SFF itself. Here are some great examples:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6168-best-game-ever-day-35-division-vi-final-zelda-a-link-to-the
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6173-best-game-ever-day-38-quarterfinal-zelda-ocarina-of-time-vs
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4188-northwest-division-final-zelda-majoras-mask-vs-zelda-wind

Those matches weren't SFF, so why does this bonus poll have to be? Because Majora's Mask got embarrassed? I truly think Breath of the Wild is just this good. All the evidence is there already. A crazy boost for Link two years ago. An even crazier boost for Zelda two years ago. The game having strength fit for the 90s, which is the decade this site is still stuck in. It's the new hotness. Everything lines up toward this being a legit match, and Zelda only really SFFs itself in fourways.

But it's a bonus poll at the end of the day and these are all lighthearted, so who really knows. We definitely need another catch-all games contest with no gimmicks or BS to find out though. Just throw everything in a normal bracket of 128 and let it rip. I'm also very happy Allen didn't turn around and have a poll between Ocarina and Breath of the Wild. ''That'' match needs to happen with money on the line.

And with that, another contest in the books! I guess we'll see you all in ten years when Game of the Decade 3 happens, assuming this place is still around then.

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PostContestUlti
05/28/20 9:20:53 PM
#317:


Post-Contest Analysis

When the coronavirus turned the world upside-down, the people willing to adapt, overcome, and change got or stayed rich. Rigid Guy went out of business. I understand government executive orders from idiotic blue states played a part in this too, but bear with me.

I could come up with endless examples of Rigid Guy falling off and Adaptable Guy succeeding, but I'll go with just one example. WWE continued putting on wrestling shows, but with no fans in the stands for safety reasons. Sure, makes sense. They put on the same trash they've been putting on for the entire PG era, and they hit new record lows for viewership every week. They're now below peak TNA numbers, just FYI. You guys think Fox is regretting that TV deal yet?

AEW meanwhile did the same type of shows, but they put their wrestlers in the stands as their "fans" and split them up in the arena between faces and heels. Their shows, despite feeling empty, still have a form of crowd noise and actually feel like a good wrestling show. WWE's stuff is sterile, boring, and flat. It might look like a wrestling show, but it's not one.

This might have ''looked'' like a GameFAQs contest, but the lack of vote totals made it look like a wrestling show with no audience and no innovation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT3iaK1w04A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnUj9XhWVl0

Watch those matches on mute. Aren't they trash with no crowd and no announcer?

That's essentially what our contests are without voters. You can set up a good bracket, put all the bells and whistles on it, and all the board contests can fire off, but without voters, without excitement, without the usual new user influx, these contests feel like we're just going through the motions. This contest also had few truly great matches, but that's just bad luck. I can live with that. What I don't enjoy living with is a preventable low voter problem, and I should point out that viewership for everything across the board is way up for the things that are actually good.

There are three main causes for the low turnouts:

1 - The site refused to adapt as the gaming world changed. It stayed text-based for way, way, way too long when it was clear that videos and fan wikis were the new hotness. At this point, it's too late to even fix the problem. The only traffic this site gets now are from Google referrals to the Answers sections, with the guides still getting ''some'' traffic. Trust me here, I have a big contributor page and I can see the page hits. Individual subreddits and message boards for each game or series is still popular, and we have that, but people left the site in favor of better places to offer that service a long time ago. The leads to issue #2.

2 - '''EXTREME''' over-moderation. This site is well-known across the internet for this one, and this junk helped chase off many a user over the years. Lip service has been paid to relaxing things, but it's worse than ever. GameFAQs is as bad as ResetEra or anything other extremist far left site you want to name. When you tell users that only far left garbage is allowed on your web site, people are more than willing to leave. Especially gamers. We are not an easy group of people to please, and we will gladly bail for the latest and greatest if we're not treated properly. It's the entire methodology behind how games sell. The fix here is hilariously easy. Allow for diversity of thought and get rid of the moronic dispute system where mods vote on their own rulings.

If you want people to vote on disputes, leave it entirely up to high level users who ''aren't'' moderators. Too many overturns, and the mod loses their job. It's a good system of checks and balances that would get rid of 95% of the biased deletions that happen on here overnight. People like Team Rocket Elite, Raptor, Centurion, spooky, DetroitDJ, and the mods who are actually really good would be fine under that system. It's the bad mods that would all poof, and this site has been in need of checks for a long, long time. Our moderation system being so bad that it's a meme killed our message boards.

3 - Get rid of most of the anti-rally nonsense. This debate is completely settled and over. I've won the argument. Killing the rallies has all but murdered our vote totals. The experiment has failed; get rid of it. I like registered users getting a bonus and I like the poll starting at 8. ''Everything'' else needs to go. No more forced voting in every match, no more fighting against referral links, and every round after divisional finals needs to be one match per day. Witcher 3 vs Persona 5 and Dark Souls vs Skyrim both happening at the same time was a joke.

I saw people suggesting some truly absurd methods that don't address any of the actual problems. These ideas ranged from complete nonsense like hiding seeding in the bracket to total idiocy like completely changing the scoring system based on prediction percentage. There are people on the forum stupid enough to think calling a round one match in a seeded bracket tournament should have the same weight as calling a semifinal upset. I even saw people calling for banning Zelda from contests, which is absurd to do. Why should Breath of the Wild be excluded from a popularity contest when it hadn't won anything before this contest happened?

These are the sorts of bad ideas that happen when a contest has no vote totals and a predictable winner. We don't need anything ridiculous. We just need good vote totals, excitement for the web site, and a web site that people actually want to be on because they're treated fairly. I'm not even asking for anything greedy like the crazy vote totals from the late 2000s. I'd be happy with the numbers we got in 2015. It shouldn't take a mega-rally in the finals for '''one poll''' to break 30,000 votes. That is asinine. There is a real problem here and some of you are way off with how to fix it.

''Contest Ranking''

Fall 2015 (Games)
Fall 2010 (Game of the Decade)
Spring 2004 (Games)
Summer 2002 (Characters)
Summer 2013 (Characters)
Winter 2010 (Characters)
Summer 2003 (Characters)
Summer 2005 (Characters)
Fall 2009 (4-way Games)
Summer 2007 (4-way Characters)
Summer 2006 (Female Bracket)
'''Spring 2020 (Game of the Decade 2)'''
Spring 2006 (Series)
Summer 2008 (4-way Characters)
Summer 2004 (Characters)
Summer 2008 (4-way Characters)
Spring 2005 (Villains)
Fall 2011 (Rivalry Rumble)
Spring 2017 (Years)

Last, but not least... '''The Ultimate Loser!!''' The big, um.... "winner" this year was....

Terraria! Breath of the Wild > Witcher 3 > Skyrim > Dark Souls > The Last of Us > Batman > Bioshock Infinite > Terraria. It's fitting that one of the many, many overhyped, useless indie games would be the big loser this year.

Thanks as always and see you next time! I'd like to give a special thanks to my readers, and an extra special thanks to the guys you've never heard of behind the scenes who keep the wiki looking nice. Ngamer and I get all the credit, but without those unknown folks also helping out we could never do it all. Igordebraga, Averiah, MetalmindStats, Bwburke94, and anyone I might have missed, thanks guys! I really appreciate the help! Bottom's up, bros.

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PostContestUlti
05/28/20 9:24:22 PM
#318:


137 pages in Word. Last character battle was 189. Definitely not as many good matches this time around!

At some point, hopefully this summer, I'll get around to the 2008 retro writeups I want to do.

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charmander6000
05/28/20 10:52:34 PM
#319:


To be fair the last contest had more matches, but even adjusting for that, 2018 would have still had 160 pages.

Good work

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NowItsAngeTime
05/28/20 10:58:54 PM
#320:


The low vote totals, forced voting, and 1 week break are all things that have made the last few contests not as fun as I'd like. I'm still iffy on the Registered User Bonus thing but at least it does give an idea of what would happen if Registered Users were the only ones allowed to vote.

I'm honestly re-considering if I even wanna follow contests anymore. It's fun following projects like this and The Show but other than that the actual matches tend to be ok at best.

Also I noticed you have Summer 2008 (4-way Characters) twice on the ranking. I assume one of these is supposed to be Character Battle 2018?

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Nintendogs
05/28/20 11:13:08 PM
#321:


We all know the real reason why Ulti dislikes this past contest is because Undertale lost

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Centurion
05/28/20 11:59:24 PM
#322:


Well that certainly was an enjoyable read. Great work! Probably liked the Dark Souls/Last of Us writeup the most.

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Kamekguy
05/29/20 12:28:54 AM
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Hey, as usual, thank you very much for your hard work! Always great to get perspective back on these, and always appreciate that strong balance between historian and that personal edge.

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ColZach
05/29/20 12:57:03 AM
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Good write up, Ulti. Its honestly just genuinely entertaining to read the crazy, insightful, idiotic, galaxy-brain shit that comes out of your head. See ya next time.
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Axl_Rose_85
05/29/20 1:39:37 AM
#325:


I love how indie games got absolutely shredded in the meat grinder this contest. Hope this serves notice for the next games contest of the ridiculous 2 games per series rule that has led to a bracket with the most bottom of the barrel entrants in a contest ever.

Who really wants to see something like Super Mario World Tannering something like Terraria in the next games contest? Or like Chrono Trigger 99-1ing What Remains of Edith Finch rather than Divisive or lesser entrants from their series which could potentially have decent strength like Skyward Sword, Dark Souls II (I wasted a nomination for this when rules didnt state anything about a series cap) Mario 3D World, Xenoblade Chronicles X or even Final Fantasy XIII.

Let this contest serve as a message that scrapping in residue from the very bottom of an empty tank does not make a good bracket, while hilarious the first time it wont be nearly as well received if it happens a second time by wasting prestigious bracket spots for potentially thrilling and debatable matches.

Also Persona 4 Golden (a personally top 3 game for me) and HGSS had absolutely no business being in this contest. Thank god it stopped at two remasters and we didnt see stuff like Ocarina of Time 3D, Chrono Trigger DS, Final Fantasy VIII Remastered and such. Jesus Christ.

All in all a very good contest which I believe could have been way better with better bracket placements and without the series cap rule and of purse 2 remasters/definitive edition port/shot-to-shot remake being in the bracket
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Axl_Rose_85
05/29/20 1:50:50 AM
#326:


Also. How the fuck did Dying Light make it into this contest?

Im playing this game right now and it is terrible. I believe Im about 30% through the game. It is boring and repetitive as hell and is really testing my willpower of making it a point to beat every entrant in a games contest.

I believe games from previous contests that really tested my patience apart from WoW were The World End With You (for its grating music and pretentious storytelling), and Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (I just really sucked at that game but I came to love MHWorld).

I might be forgetting a few but I dont recall ever having this much of an issue of not liking a game that has appeared in a contest before. I still have about 15 or so (mostly indies) I need to beat so maybe there is worse yet to come.
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Axl_Rose_85
05/29/20 1:53:03 AM
#327:


Point is Im really questioning how some of these entrants made the bracket. Like Dying Light really? Wow. Am I missing something or does the game suddenly become GotD material around the halfway mark?
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ctesjbuvf
05/29/20 4:04:08 AM
#328:


PostContestUlti posted...
Fall 2015 (Games)
Fall 2010 (Game of the Decade)
Spring 2004 (Games)
Summer 2002 (Characters)
Summer 2013 (Characters)
Winter 2010 (Characters)
Summer 2003 (Characters)
Summer 2005 (Characters)
Fall 2009 (4-way Games)
Summer 2007 (4-way Characters)
Summer 2006 (Female Bracket)
'''Spring 2020 (Game of the Decade 2)'''
Spring 2006 (Series)
Summer 2008 (4-way Characters)
Summer 2004 (Characters)
Summer 2008 (4-way Characters)
Spring 2005 (Villains)
Fall 2011 (Rivalry Rumble)
Spring 2017 (Years)

Where's 2018?

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Panthera
05/29/20 4:58:40 AM
#329:


PostContestUlti posted...


A lot of people are calling this match SFF, but I'm not so sure. The Zelda series tends to not SFF itself.

I think there's a decent amount of SFF that's inevitable in a match like this, though Zelda probably does get a bit less of it due to how a lot of its big titles are fairly different from each other (Link to the Past is 2D old school, Ocarina is the 3D equivalent, Majora's Mask is its own little thing, and Breath of the Wild is an open world free roam game more similar to the first game than any other and still not exactly all that similar). Even factoring in a bit of SFF this match still makes Breath of the Wild look like a beast. Definitely need to see another all time games contest at some point to find it (and Witcher 3 to an extent too!) the competition it deserves.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/29/20 7:18:22 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Thats weird. Good catch.
Yeah, it looks like one of the Summer 2008s is supposed to be 2018.

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Ringworm
05/29/20 10:42:25 AM
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Good job and an interesting read as usual.

Not a fan of all the anti rally measures in place in these contests. I think we all expect rallies now and calling them is part of the contest. I am probably just annoyed after being one of just 3 gurus who got shafted by both matches decided by the registered user bonus. Discouraging outside users is just another thing this site has done wrong (which has already been touched on) - I would be trying to encourage people to the site, rather than discouraging them, especially with the major decrease in traffic on the site over time. Mandatory voting in all matches is not going to encourage people to stay who are only interested in one match either.

I thought this contest was pretty bad to be honest. There were a few decent matches in the middle, but it ended up with a lot of predictable matches with awful vote tallies. I think the fact there were a few clear standout games this decade lead to a lot of the one sided results. Probably a bottom 5 contest for me.

Take out mid contest breaks too. Although I appreciated being top of the leader board in the second chance comp for a day, that contest break made me lose all interest after what had been an entertaining week or so.

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LinkMarioSamus
05/29/20 11:23:35 AM
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Rallies bring out the worst in the board. And this is the one contest I wanted to see rallies in.

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trdl23
05/29/20 3:12:06 PM
#336:


Entertaining as ever.

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PostContestUlti
05/29/20 5:29:18 PM
#337:


Alright, added some quotes from you guys.

One or two more bumps, then I'm out.

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Anagram
05/29/20 5:30:19 PM
#338:


Thanks for the PCA, Ulti. Entertaining as usual.

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ZeroSignal620
05/29/20 5:31:07 PM
#339:


PostContestUlti posted...
WWE continued putting on wrestling shows, but with no fans in the stands for safety reasons. Sure, makes sense. They put on the same trash they've been putting on for the entire PG era, and they hit new record lows for viewership every week. They're now below peak TNA numbers, just FYI. You guys think Fox is regretting that TV deal yet?

Vince took the hint and finally made a crowd using the low end NXT wrestlers. They were even advertised as practicing social distancing (until they were necessary to pull apart Drew McIntyre and Lashley later on. Yeah that's right, WWE's pulling in TNA numbers, so why not have a TNA feud for the WWE title >_> )

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BlAcK TuRtLe
05/29/20 8:23:07 PM
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3 - Get rid of most of the anti-rally nonsense. This debate is completely settled and over. I've won the argument. Killing the rallies has all but murdered our vote totals. The experiment has failed; get rid of it. I like registered users getting a bonus and I like the poll starting at 8. ''Everything'' else needs to go. No more forced voting in every match, no more fighting against referral links, and every round after divisional finals needs to be one match per day. Witcher 3 vs Persona 5 and Dark Souls vs Skyrim both happening at the same time was a joke.

This is a next level dumb take, considering most of the contests on top of your list had zero to minimal rallying. Your other points are valid, but the anti rally measures are the one bright spot in the death spiral this site is going through.

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Safer_777
05/29/20 8:41:37 PM
#342:


I only have 3 requests if another contest happens.
Get rid of bonus votes.
Let people vote in as many matches as they want.
Allow any character that has ever appeared in a video game be eligible.

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Safer_777
05/30/20 8:59:00 AM
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Also I would rank this contest somewhere in the middle. Not good but not bad either. Some exciting matches for sure.

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ColZach
05/30/20 10:28:11 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I love you too, bro!

And yeah I definitely do not think like an airquote normal human being.

An absolute pleasure. Much love.
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Nintendogs
05/30/20 10:40:12 PM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
People complaining about SJWs are such hypocrites when they're just as easily offended, if not moreso.
"The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

Take it as you will.
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Safer_777
06/03/20 8:23:54 PM
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@UltimaterializerX
Hey by the way how long you do this PCA thingie and why you started? I don't think I have ever asked you.

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Safer_777
06/03/20 8:34:18 PM
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So you started at the 2nd contest? Damn it man. But you redid your old work? To tell you the truth I am not okay with this but well you decide. Okay thanks.

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Safer_777
06/03/20 8:41:33 PM
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That bad eh? Okay then. Well you were young back then. Anyways that is. As always keep up the good work!

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plasmabeam
06/04/20 2:19:29 PM
#352:


Thanks for this! Always enjoy the NFL Primetime references among other things.

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Nintendogs
06/10/20 3:52:23 PM
#353:


Gonna bump this one last time, there are some posts I'd like to save.
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