Board 8 > think you know the contests well? here's some character battle contest trivia.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/23/20 12:21:15 AM
#201:


LeonhartFour posted...
Hmm...It probably comes close. Squall, Vivi, and Auron probably aren't enough to balance out FFIV, FFVI, FFXII, FFXIII, and FFXV sucking, although they haven't had a ton of entrants.

I'd be curious to see what percentage of FF's total matches are just FFVII.
It's the only franchise to lose to a hand twice.

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transience
05/23/20 12:22:11 AM
#202:


wow, what the hell

FF7 is 125-48, and that includes stuff like the midgar zolom

that means that without FF7, FF is.. 80-102

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The Mana Sword
05/23/20 12:23:09 AM
#203:


at least ff5 is holding its weight

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:23:09 AM
#204:


well the FFVII characters that sucked were only in once and then were never seen again!

actually I'm pretty sure Zolom and Cid are the only FFVII characters who lost in round 1 and never came back

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transience
05/23/20 12:24:09 AM
#205:


these guys are 0-26

Ramza
Cecil
Celes
Sin
Kain Highwind
Kuja
Rydia
Ultros
Cid Highwind
Vaan
Noctis
Locke
Midgar Zolom
Rinoa
Boko
Seifer

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MoogleKupo141
05/23/20 12:24:53 AM
#206:


transience posted...
yeah, remove FF7 and Final Fantasy might not make it.


now Im curious

Squall is +9, Auron is +7, Vivi is +3

Kefka and Yuna are 0.

I cant think of anyone else that might have a winning record.
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:24:58 AM
#207:


so the moral of the story is don't blame FFVIII for this

FFVIII definitely has a winning record

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The Mana Sword
05/23/20 12:25:18 AM
#208:


oh damnit I forgot about boko

damn you 2013

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:26:04 AM
#209:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
now Im curious

Squall is +9, Auron is +7, Vivi is +3

Kefka and Yuna are 0.

I cant think of anyone else that might have a winning record.

Looks like Zidane is -1. He's the only other one that came to mind.

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MoogleKupo141
05/23/20 12:26:59 AM
#210:


LeonhartFour posted...


Looks like Zidane is -1. He's the only other one that came to mind.


Jecht is 2-1 lol

Officially the fourth best non-7 FF character
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:27:25 AM
#211:


Oh right, the great Jecht.

How could I have ever doubted him?

(although I guess he's technically .500 if you count Sin lawl)

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transience
05/23/20 12:27:28 AM
#212:


FF8 has a winning record, yeah, because they just don't get their side characters in. we're not seeing Zell or NORG unfortunately.

FF10 has a losing record

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Paratroopa1
05/23/20 12:29:26 AM
#213:


Random question: are there any games besides FF5 and Portal/Portal 2 to have at least two NPCs make the contest, but never any of the playable characters? (Although both Bartz and Chell made Rivalry Rumble)
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:29:33 AM
#214:


transience posted...
FF10 has a losing record

yeah, Tidus, Yuna, and Rikku have a lot of round 1 losses

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Rikku were the second strongest FFX character but she always gets in with a low seed and draws guys like Ryu and Kirby

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Paratroopa1
05/23/20 12:30:35 AM
#215:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Random question: are there any games besides FF5 and Portal/Portal 2 to have at least two NPCs make the contest, but never any of the playable characters? (Although both Bartz and Chell made Rivalry Rumble)
(only counting games that HAVE a playable character)
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_SecretSquirrel
05/23/20 12:31:39 AM
#216:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Random question: are there any games besides FF5 and Portal/Portal 2 to have at least two NPCs make the contest, but never any of the playable characters? (Although both Bartz and Chell made Rivalry Rumble)
Animal Crossing, I guess

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MoogleKupo141
05/23/20 12:32:02 AM
#217:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Random question: are there any games besides FF5 and Portal/Portal 2 to have at least two NPCs make the contest, but never any of the playable characters? (Although both Bartz and Chell made Rivalry Rumble)


For the winning record question I thought Diablo would be one but then remembered Deckard Cain made a contest once

So Diablo would be one with two NpCs
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:33:28 AM
#218:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Random question: are there any games besides FF5 and Portal/Portal 2 to have at least two NPCs make the contest, but never any of the playable characters? (Although both Bartz and Chell made Rivalry Rumble)

it's pretty tough to find a popular game where none of the playable characters are popular

I've never played Borderlands but are Handsome Jack, Face McShooty, or Claptrap playable

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Paratroopa1
05/23/20 12:33:28 AM
#219:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
For the winning record question I thought Diablo would be one but then remember Deckard Cain made a contest once

So Diablo would be one.
I thought of this but also the game doesn't have named playable characters so it wasn't really what I was trying to think of, AC is in the same boat

this question just occurred to me because I think it's extremely weird that Final Fantasy 5 has had two characters but neither of them are any of the game's main playable characters OR the game's main villain
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transience
05/23/20 12:33:45 AM
#220:


I miscounted, it's actually .500

Auron - 17-10
Yuna - 7-7
Tidus - 5-10
Rikku - 3-5
Jecht - 2-1
Sin - 0-1

Total - 34-34


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Paratroopa1
05/23/20 12:33:47 AM
#221:


LeonhartFour posted...
it's pretty tough to find a popular game where none of the playable characters are popular

I've never played Borderlands but are Handsome Jack, Face McShooty, or Claptrap playable
oh that's a good one, no they are not
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:35:28 AM
#222:


also I remembered that this dude named Sandal was in a contest and I realized I still have no idea what game he's actually from

apparently he was in Dragon Age?

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MoogleKupo141
05/23/20 12:36:48 AM
#223:


LeonhartFour posted...


it's pretty tough to find a popular game where none of the playable characters are popular

I've never played Borderlands but are Handsome Jack, Face McShooty, or Claptrap playable


Claptrap is a playable character in the Pre-Sequel. Im not sure about the timing of the these characters were in the contest vs. when the Pre Sequel came out, so Borderlands 2 may have counted at the time

technically the Claptrap in PS may be different from the Claptrap in 2, so I guess Borderlands 2 may count regardless
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:36:48 AM
#224:


Oh wait, Tiny Tina was in a contest, too. Dunno if she's playable either.

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:37:36 AM
#225:


actually that just reminded me that Tharja/Tiny Tina/Juliet Starlet was a match in CBIX and one of the most debated matches of round 1

what a contest that was

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MoogleKupo141
05/23/20 12:38:25 AM
#226:


LeonhartFour posted...
also I remembered that this dude named Sandal was in a contest and I realized I still have no idea what game he's actually from

apparently he was in Dragon Age?


yeah he was like a little mentally handicapped boy who sold potions or something
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transience
05/23/20 12:38:34 AM
#227:


heh, ff10 has had more character battle appearances than kingdom hearts, resident evil, street fighter, kirby or castlevania. it's only 2 behind the chrono series (and 1 behind chrono trigger!)

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:40:21 AM
#228:


Well, FFX is good for three characters almost every contest, sometimes four. Pretty sure they had five in 2010! I think 2004 was the last time Yuna missed a contest. Tidus never has, and Auron hasn't missed one since his debut in 2003.

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MoogleKupo141
05/23/20 12:42:10 AM
#229:


oh also Super Smash Bros. 2 NPCs (Sandbag and Master Hand) have been in, but there has never been a single playable Smash Bros. character in a contest.
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:42:48 AM
#230:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
oh also Super Smash Bros. 2 NPCs (Sandbag and Master Hand) have been in, but there has never been a single playable Smash Bros. character in a contest.

Mii Brawler for CBXI

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_SecretSquirrel
05/23/20 12:43:43 AM
#231:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
oh also Super Smash Bros. 2 NPCs (Sandbag and Master Hand) have been in, but there has never been a single playable Smash Bros. character in a contest.
Objection. Master Hand is actually playable as of Ultimate.

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Paratroopa1
05/23/20 12:43:57 AM
#232:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
oh also Super Smash Bros. 2 NPCs (Sandbag and Master Hand) have been in, but there has never been a single playable Smash Bros. character in a contest.
Probably something like 50 of Smash's playable characters have made a contest so this is not what I asked :p
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MoogleKupo141
05/23/20 12:47:02 AM
#233:


ok I have a trivia question that I dont know the answer to: what is the series to get the most characters into the contest without getting a single win?

If all those Borderlands characters lost in round 1, Borderlands is at 4. Does anything beat that?
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:49:09 AM
#234:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
ok I have a trivia question that I dont know the answer to: what is the series to get the most characters into the contest without getting a single win?

If all those Borderlands characters lost in round 1, Borderlands is at 4. Does anything beat that?

Yeah, all of those characters lost in round 1, so that's a good guess!

Xenoblade is 0-4 if you count it separate from the other Xeno games.

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Paratroopa1
05/23/20 12:54:11 AM
#235:


Who does Xenoblade have besides Shulk, Dunban, and Reyn?
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:55:36 AM
#236:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Who does Xenoblade have besides Shulk, Dunban, and Reyn?

Oh wait, I was counting total record since Shulk has lost twice.

We're going by total unique characters. I can't imagine anyone else has that many. I scrolled through the 2013 X-Stats and couldn't find anything.

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:57:46 AM
#237:


Actually, Persona is 0-3 between Narukami, Chie, and Joker. That's probably the only full series that comes close. I don't think they've had a fourth character to my knowledge.

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Paratroopa1
05/23/20 12:57:55 AM
#238:


Not that many franchises even manage to get 4 characters in the contests at all, so it's pretty hilarious that Borderlands of all things managed it with 4 characters as fodderific as those four
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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:59:01 AM
#239:


And Tiny Tina almost beat Tharja, to boot!

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 12:59:58 AM
#240:


Actually, that makes me wonder what series has the most total losses with zero wins.

I wonder if it's Zero Wing lawl

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MoogleKupo141
05/23/20 1:03:51 AM
#241:


LeonhartFour posted...
Actually, Persona is 0-3 between Narukami, Chie, and Joker. That's probably the only full series that comes close. I don't think they've had a fourth character to my knowledge.


I think there are at least a few with three characters. Kid Icarus got Pit/Palutena/Hades.

it feels like there were one million random Touhou characters one year but it may have just been two
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_SecretSquirrel
05/23/20 1:04:56 AM
#242:


MoogleKupo141 posted...


it feels like there were one million random Touhou characters one year but it may have just been two
Three. Marisa, Cirno, and Reimu.

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 1:05:24 AM
#243:


Man, 2013 had so many weird characters in it.

It had three Isaacs in it and they all sucked.

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 1:06:08 AM
#244:


oh wait

if you cheat and consider Shin Megami Tensei and Persona the same series, Demi-Fiend was also in 2013

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_SecretSquirrel
05/23/20 1:06:30 AM
#245:


LeonhartFour posted...
Man, 2013 had so many weird characters in it.

It had three Isaacs in it and they all sucked.
Only one of them ended up in last place, though.

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 1:08:19 AM
#246:


also Portal actually has had three NPCs

did you forget Wheatley lost to Crash Bandicoot in 2013?

because I did until just now!

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_SecretSquirrel
05/23/20 1:11:23 AM
#247:


LeonhartFour posted...
also Portal actually has had three NPCs

did you forget Wheatley lost to Crash Bandicoot in 2013?

because I did until just now!
I wish I had forgotten that utter trash result.

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LeonhartFour
05/23/20 1:12:38 AM
#248:


I remember that one fondly because I correctly predicted Crash to win!

and yet I still didn't pick Crash to beat Cecil in 2018 what is wrong with me

we really need to try to get Rydia in again because she has legit looked stronger than Cecil in both of her losses

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_SecretSquirrel
05/23/20 1:21:35 AM
#249:


LeonhartFour posted...
I remember that one fondly because I correctly predicted Crash to win!

and yet I still didn't pick Crash to beat Cecil in 2018 what is wrong with me

we really need to try to get Rydia in again because she has legit looked stronger than Cecil in both of her losses
When I did the tier rankings for Zen's Tiermaker thing, Crash legitimately ended up in the Trash tier just because of that awful result. There's is only a few contest results that actively get me salty, and it's up there with Melee vs. Chrono Trigger.

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MoogleKupo141
05/23/20 1:24:27 AM
#250:


it appears that CoD is another series to get three characters but no wins

still havent figured out a series with a worse record than CATSs 0 - 9. I think thats the one.
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