Board 8 > think you know the contests well? here's some character battle contest trivia.

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transience
05/18/20 6:49:48 PM
#1:


I started working on a silly contest project, mostly around vote totals. before I post that (I'm not done yet), here's some contest trivia! I'm not going to give answers for a day or two so take your time answering. I'm going to give options so you can just bold your responses.

a few guidelines first:

  • first of all, these questions relate to official contest matches involving character battles from 2002-2018.
  • to be clear, this includes "second bracket" types of matches such as the Tournament of Champions or the winners/losers bracket from 2018, but does not include bonus battles such as L-Block vs. ? Block or Link vs. Jay Solano.
  • it also does not include any results from the rivalry rumble.
  • a 'win' in the fourway contests means that you advanced, not that you came in first place.


okay, here goes!

  1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus)
  2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus)
  3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby)
  4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono)
  5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack)
  6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010)
  7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS)
  8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna)
  9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno)
  10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario)
  11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind)
  12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28)
  13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus)
  14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound)
  15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong)
  16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9)
  17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher)
  18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot)
  19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney)
  20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi)
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greengravy294
05/18/20 6:50:52 PM
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_SecretSquirrel
05/18/20 7:51:26 PM
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Well, I attempted to do this with zero research, based entirely off memory. I await a pathetically low score.

Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus) [It's either Samus or Snake, since Link and Cloud's various exceptions due to being too strong, and their early exits from CB9 keep their apperance count lower than the rest of the N9]

Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus) [I know this question feels like a trap, but it's hard not to envision the 2007 contest not being this lightning in a bottle considering its universal appeal]

Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby) [I'm trying to consider who would have gone further into the brackets, particularly when votals were high]

Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono) [Pokemon is definitely up there, but Sonic has a decent base of characters that always get in, and has always been strong, whereas Pokemon being hated until 2006 limits its options]

Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack)

Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010)

Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS) [I think CATS got the most contest appearances, and that's kind of what matters. Kratos is interesting because he has to have scored a better average due to being stronger.]

Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna) [They can't be that far off, but I'm liking Dante because he lacks the SFF beatdowns that Yoshi or the FF7 crew might have.]

Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno) [Combination of both the 2010 and 2013 runs is what I am thinking. Zard was the only character who went far in both contests.]

Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario) [Having a bad 2010 and 2013, and not being featured in the battle royals in 2006 has to make it Crono.]

Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind) [THAT'S GOTTA BE KAIN! THAT'S GOTTA BE KAIN]

How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28) [A lot of 2013 fodder drew less total votes, but got way more of the percentage. But I don't think that number is 28 either.]

Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus) [Don't feel that great about this answer, but Cloud being #2 to Link is always a good guess.]

Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound) [I'm counting on ME's 2013 crew actually pulling a couple shockers here, alongside Shepard always being good for a win making the difference.]

Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong) [Tidus has a luxury of winning some key matches when votals were high, I think.]

How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9) [Can't be much, considering almost all of the slots go to Nintendo and Square alone, with Capcom and Konami holding a few.]

The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher) [Ratchet has been appearing in the contests the longest, and I don't remember too many he's been snubbed from.]

Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot) [Poor Liquid Snake should try not getting snubbed, or I might be tempted to choose him here]

Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney) [Fire Emblem seems to have the best balance of quanity of characters and strength. Ace Attorney and StarFox lack the strength from their support.]

Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi) [I think Yoshi has a better ratio of contest apperances and longest paths.]


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Giggsalot
05/18/20 8:41:35 PM
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oh this is fun. I'm far from an expert, but here are some gut instinct picks:

  1. Samus
  2. Draven
  3. Bowser
  4. Pokemon
  5. Tifa
  6. 2008
  7. Kratos Aurion
  8. Yoshi
  9. Charizard
  10. Mario
  11. Kain (Legacy of Cain)
  12. 28
  13. Cloud
  14. Mass Effect
  15. Donkey Kong
  16. 1
  17. Ratchet
  18. Big Boss
  19. Tales of
  20. Zero



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Leonhart4
05/18/20 8:48:02 PM
#5:


Keep in mind for the first question that Sephiroth has the added bonus of being the only Noble Niner both in the Villains Contest and in the main contest in 2018. I'm kinda inclined to think it's him, even with not being in the main bracket in 2006. He has a lot of deep runs and not many early exits, even in 2013 when a lot of Noble Niners got knocked out early.

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Leonhart4
05/18/20 8:50:34 PM
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Also, pretty sure #2 is Zelda against Carmen Sandiego in 2006. I remember that being notable for being the first character to break 100,000 votes by themselves in a contest match.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/18/20 8:53:36 PM
#7:


Leonhart4 posted...
Keep in mind for the first question that Sephiroth has the added bonus of being the only Noble Niner both in the Villains Contest and in the main contest in 2018. I'm kinda inclined to think it's him, even with not being in the main bracket in 2006. He has a lot of deep runs and not many early exits, even in 2013 when a lot of Noble Niners got knocked out early.
He also wasn't in the 2005 bracket, so there's some ups and downs. I'm not doing any research on this one until the results are revealed.

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Leonhart4
05/18/20 8:56:30 PM
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He wasn't, but he still had two matches in 2005 and 3 in 2006. I think that would be enough to balance things out with the other advantages he has.

And yeah, I'm answering off the top of my head here. I'm on my phone right now so I'll answer the rest when I get home.

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LeonhartFour
05/18/20 9:32:20 PM
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  1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus) - Already explained my rationale on this one. If it's not him, it's Snake.
  2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus) - Feeling pretty good about that one.
  3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby) - I know at one point Squall had the most wins for a non-Noble Niner (yes, this is something I'd keep track of), and I think it's probably still true, so I'll roll with that.
  4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono) - I know Pokemon did nothing in the early years, but the sheer number of entrants it's had (as well as the fact that it pretty much dominated 2013) makes me think it's taken the lead at this point. The other series have one strong entrant, one entrant who's good for a win or two every year, and the rest never win anything anymore. I'd guess...Sonic might be it if I'm wrong here.
  5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack) - My only thing with Tifa is that she missed a few contests during our peak years in terms of vote totals, and that's when Vincent was strongest.
  6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010) - I feel like I've seen Luster post this before!
  7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS) - Feel pretty confident that it's CATS because he was turbo fodder every year when the vote totals were high, unlike the rest of these losers.
  8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna) - Aerith has always done well and never really gets blown out even when she loses. It could be Chief, I guess, because he had that big run in 2007.
  9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno) - Mewtwo had that deep run in 2008, and none of these other guys were in a contest when vote totals were that high. Plus, he went deep into 2013, too.
  10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario) - Crono had a bunch of early exits from 2007 to 2013, so he seems like the obvious choice.
  11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind) - They've all only been in one match, and Kain Highwind is the only one who didn't get utterly blown out.
  12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28) - 2013 had a lot of really, really bad fodder, combined with the bad vote totals.
  13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus) - Cloud feels like the obvious answer here, so I can't tell if you're trying to make me think it can't be him because it's too obvious or not!
  14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound) - Pretty sure Gordon has more wins by himself than all these other franchises because most of them haven't done much!
  15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong) - Tidus has the benefit of never missing a contest, so I'll go with him.
  16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9) - That 1 being Master Chief.
  17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher) - I think the Villains Contest gives Wesker that extra contest loss. It's either him or Laharl. I can't remember if they've missed a contest since their debut other than 2006.
  18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot) - I know it's not Ocelot, but Liquid had a couple of good runs during out peak years. Big Boss has mostly been good after the vote totals dropped off.
  19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney) - I feel like Tales has had two characters or more in every contest (except 2006) since 2005.
  20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi) - Yoshi feels like the easy answer. He's had consistent success the whole time. Vivi only got good recently, and Knuckles has never been past the second round. Zero's been up and down, but he's probably 2nd place.

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transience
05/18/20 10:02:14 PM
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I'm really enjoying reading the logic. some are totally logical yet totally wrong, and some are dead on. keep 'em coming.

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ZenOfThunder
05/18/20 10:03:34 PM
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LeonhartFour
05/18/20 10:06:20 PM
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transience posted...
I'm really enjoying reading the logic. some are totally logical yet totally wrong, and some are dead on. keep 'em coming.

I'm sure I'm off base on some of these! I'd know some of these answers if it was about actual wins and losses, not vote totals, but that throws a wrench into it.

I guess I could check my own work since it's a simple enough task, but I don't want to spoil myself!

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Team Rocket Elite
05/18/20 10:08:05 PM
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1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus)
2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus)
3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby)
4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono)
5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack)
6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010)
7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS)
8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna)
9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno)
10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario)
11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind)
12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28)
13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus)
14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound)
15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong)
16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9)
17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher)
18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot)
19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney)
20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi)

I tried to do this blind. For number 2, I would have thought it was Mario or LoZ from the Series contest. I guess not.
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LeonhartFour
05/18/20 10:11:16 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
I tried to do this blind. For number 2, I would have thought it was Mario or LoZ from the Series contest. I guess not.

I think LoZ against Civilization in the Series Contest is the overall highest individual vote total ever, but this is character contests (sans Rivalry Rumble) only.

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transience
05/18/20 10:42:40 PM
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yeah Leon is right. I didn't even glance at series, and I skipped game contests because so many games get excluded each time thanks to game of the decade 1 and 2.


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Team Rocket Elite
05/18/20 10:54:43 PM
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Oh, I somehow missed the comment about this being only Character Battle trivia and never figured out something was wrong after every question asked about characters.
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squexa
05/18/20 11:14:15 PM
#17:


This is very interesting! I'm going this completely blind without reading any other answers or checking the wiki.

  1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus) My gut reaction is Sephiroth because of Villains, but I know he got retired after that so he's effectively missing a couple contests, so I'm thinking it has to be either Snake or Samus. I feel Samus gotten further overall than Snake (Snake did better in 2008 but he was weak in the first couple contests + Samus did better in 2018), so Samus is my answer.
  2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus) Guessing it's L-block's 2007 finals run? Draven's 2013 run should be very close as well, but siding with L-Block for now
  3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby) I really have no idea. Squall's historically the strongest of these bunch and I think pre-2013 has had a decent amount of success so I'm rolling with him. Meanwhile, Bowser, Ganondorf, Kirby, etc I think have been in a bunch of SFF/LFF matches that should sap their total votes (Link vs Ganondorf 2004 lol).
  4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono) Pokemon's the tempting answer because it probably is true since 2010, but it's missing a lot of matches in the early contests. Sonic has (Sonic/Knux/Tails/Shadow). Chrono has (Crono/Magus/Frog). Mega Man has (Mega Man/X/Zero). Ugh I'm sticking with Pokemon here just because of 2013 and how far many of its entrants go.
  5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack) Feel like its either Tifa or Vincent. Going to roll with Vincent here, but not very confident
  6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010) Guessing either 2007 or 2008
  7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS) Cecil's probably the most legit now, but he's legit in an era of low votals. I'm... going with CATS. I think he got a good amount of votes in that villains contest against Ansem.
  8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna) As dumb as it is, I feel like it's Master Chief. He always chokes close matches and resists SFF, so I think he rarely has ultra low votals. Plus he sucked in the recent contests, meaning he didn't get many matches in 2013 and 2018 where votals were low. Meanwhile, Link vs Yoshi 2004 is the type of match that would tank the others.
  9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno) Think it's Mewtwo because it has 2008 that the others don't have + the whole bandwagon in 2013 against Draven where he almost made the finals. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Charizard since Mewtwo's 2 big contests were both 3/4-ways which split votes. Still leaning Mewtwo.
  10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario) Crono's broken the N9 too many times.
  11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind) No idea who most of these guys are. Going with the FFIV guy.
  12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28) With how depressed our votals have been, I suspect there are quite a few in 3way or 4ways. I know Chester, Spring Breeze and Caim probably have less than Tanner so probably more than 4.
  13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus) Feel like this is a trick question. Cloud's the "obvious" answer, but he got retired for a good part of it so he's definitely in less matches than the others. Whether he can overtake them in votals is another thing. Sephiroth has Villains all by himself so he should be in more matches than Cloud, but he also faces the dilemma of getting SFF/LFF by Cloud. Snake and Samus I think have been in the most amount of matches but both are weak with Samus constantly dealing witth Link/Mario SFF/LFF. I'm going to roll the dice and go with Snake.
  14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound) GFNW so Half-Life's out. I think Ike had maybe 3 wins total and Lucina has maybe 1? Can't remember if I'm missing anyone else. Meanwhile, Portal has GLaDOS and Weighted companion cube so I think it should have maybe 3-4 wins each especially since WCC went on a run in 2008 iirc. Mass Effect is mostly Shephard and Garrus and I think it should be around 4 wins for Shepard and maybe 1 for Garrus. It's close but going with Portal.
  15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong) Honestly have no idea. Going with Tidus just because I think he's the strongest of the bunch when votals were high.
  16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9) L-Block is Russia. Draven is USA. Master Chief is USA. Going with 3 here.
  17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher) Don't think Sam's been in 7 contests. Laharl's beaten Neku (probably only win) but has he been in 7 contests? Tales is the type of fanbase that'll get Lloyd in like 7 contests in a row and I feel like Lloyd's probably won one (and probably only one) match in his history so I'll go with him.
  18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot) Big Boss is easily the strongest character now but wasn't worth a thing until 2008. Being the "best" MGS character in 2013 and 2018 means nothing with such low votals. That said, I have a hard time trusting Liquid or Ocelot either so will grudgingly go with Big Boss.
  19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney) Feels like there's a period where every contest has like 3-4 Tales characters. The issue is that none of them win matches so they don't have much second round representation. Starfox might be possible, given Fox actually wins matches but I don't think Falco or Wolf makes many contests.
  20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi) Complete tossup here. Just going with Zero based on absolutely nothing.



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LeonhartFour
05/18/20 11:19:08 PM
#18:


All of the characters in question 17 have indeed won 1 and only 1 match. That isn't a trick question in that regard. It's just a matter of which one of them has been in the most contests.

I forgot about MMX's recent success and WCC's success when answering a couple of those questions, so I might have missed those after all!

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MetalmindStats
05/19/20 1:08:26 AM
#19:


Hoo boy, so many of these questions are based on votals, which I've never paid that much attention to. Let's see what I can remember:

  1. Link
  2. Draven
  3. Bowser
  4. Mega Man
  5. Vincent
  6. 2007
  7. CATS
  8. Dante
  9. Mewtwo
  10. Sonic
  11. Kain Highwind
  12. 28
  13. Cloud
  14. Portal
  15. Tidus
  16. 3
  17. Wesker
  18. Big Boss
  19. Tales of
  20. Zero

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Agent M
05/19/20 2:38:08 AM
#20:


I spent too long thinking about these.

1.) Samus
2.) Samus
3.) Bowser
4.) Pokemon
5.) Tifa
6.) 2007
7.) Cecil
8.) Master Chief
9.) Charizard
10.) Sonic
11.) Kane
12.) 4
13.) Samus
14.) Mass Effect
15.) Kefka
16.) 1
17.) Not sure if I understood this correctly, sounds like someone advancing in a 4-way with 12.5%. Wesker?
18.) Big Boss
19.) Tales of
20.) Vivi

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Raka_Putra
05/19/20 2:54:10 AM
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XIII_rocks
05/19/20 2:57:34 AM
#22:


This is cool! Let me try (and fail). Just gonna go off of gut here.

  1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Samus)
  2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block)
  3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser)
  4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Pokemon) (something in me is saying Mega Man but idk)
  5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Vincent)
  6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2007)
  7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (CATS)
  8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Master Chief)
  9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Missingno)
  10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Sonic)
  11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain))
  12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (11) - basing this off 2004's votals being so much higher than what we have now...but 28 seems too high.
  13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Sephiroth)
  14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Fire Emblem)
  15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka)
  16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (3)
  17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving)
  18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Revolver Ocelot)
  19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Starfox)
  20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Zero)



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ctesjbuvf
05/19/20 5:33:49 AM
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What a great idea, this topic is totally me.

  1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus) - It's not Link or Cloud, they've been out of the field too often and has nothing to compensate. Between Snake and Samus, it must be Snake. Neither of them every left early, but I can think more where Snake for further than the opposite. I don't think Snake even needs the Battle Royale to beat her. Sephiroth is the wild card, but I think I'm sticking with Snake regardless. Seph was eliminated ASAP in the final part of the 2018 contest and the villains contest wasn't that big.
  2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus) - From reading Leon's post, it has got to be Zelda. L-Block is complete bait here. You're thinking finals are the biggest matches, but there's no way Link did not achieve that in an early round. You need completely fodder to get such.
  3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby) - Seriously considered Squall, but he never got much further than Bowser. The one contest he had without Bowser, he drew Snake in round 1. Bowser had a lot more matches in 2018, that even with the low votals can make up for a bit. Bowser also has the villains contest, that could make the difference. Ganondorf should also be considered for the same reasons.
  4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono) - It's really hard to try to get an idea of Pokemon, but I think I'm gonna roll with the combination of Mega Man, Mega Man X and Zero. Mega Man was a lo ahead of Pokemon when it started getting serious.
  5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack) - It's tough being confident in any of these, they all missed some crucial contests. If our later contests had the heyday votals we used to have, I'd pick Tifa for sure. I don't think it's Aeris either, she often exit early and being in the early contests doesn't matter if you miss later. Vincent had the most important contests, but never really got to destroy fodder, did he. It can't be Zack. I'm sticking with Tifa
  6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010) - I think I recall reading this before.
  7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS) - Gotta pick CATS when he can actually win something. Contest appearences must matter the most here and he wins that. He even has a villains contest, which was his best appearence.
  8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna) - I'm going with Master Chief. First of all, he never got SFFd to death, but I think the key point here is that he had early exits in the recent contests with much lower votals and you probably want that here.
  9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno) - It has got to be Mewtwo. I think he has the most matches and his run 2008 and maybe even rallied in 2013 has got to mean something.
  10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario) - This must be Crono with his several early exits.
  11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind) - I guessed, I have no idea, but I know who Kain Highwind is.
  12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28) - I'm going for the high number. 2013 had so many characters and low votals. It must have racked that number up a bit.
  13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus) - THis made me reconsider Link and Cloud's chances in the first question. I'm going with Cloud, he featured in all the high votals matches too and used to destroy stuff better than Snake and the others.
  14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound) - I was gonna pick Mass Effect, but then I remember Weighted Companion Cube.
  15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong) - I don't know. I started out thinking making the villains contest would be deciding, but Kefka missed other contest. Tidus never did IIRC. I could see it being all four here, honestly.
  16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9) - Looking through the topic, this is my best bet.
  17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher) - I'm simply trying to think who could've had that many matches and I'm gonna use the Villains argument again.
  18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot) - I'm thinking Liquid Snake takes it by appearences.
  19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney) - There's so much Tales of stuff I probably don't even know is Tales of stuff... Starfox has had some success, so I'm rolling with that.
  20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi) - I'm thinking it must be Zero or Yoshi. I've been annoyed several contests and Yoshi always gets fed to some big character before getting to be in a debatable match, so I'm going with him Zero.



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ZeldaTPLink
05/19/20 7:40:47 AM
#24:


  1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus)
  2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus)
  3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby)
  4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono)
  5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack)
  6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010)
  7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS)
  8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna)
  9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno)
  10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario)
  11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind)
  12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28)
  13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus)
  14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound)
  15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong)
  16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9)
  17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher)
  18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot)
  19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney)
  20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi)



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ZeldaTPLink
05/19/20 8:00:20 AM
#25:


Might as well post the logic:

1- Gut says it's not Link because of 2005/2006, but this feels like a trap. Also a later question says Link has the most votes ever. Gonna guess there are enough semifinals/finals for him to be in the top without those two contests.
2- Has to be from an early contest. Cloud actually won one of those, was in a lot of finals. Zelda/Draven are recent contest wonders. Samus didn't quite dominate anything as Cloud. L-block had a lot of votals but I suspect it wasn't quite of a consensus.
3- Kirby used to suck, Squall sucks now, Ryu has never been big, Ganon used to be known as the Zelda character who is not that strong. Bowser is the only one who is good across all eras, I think.
4- Pick the franchise that puts 10 characters in each contest. Pokemon.
5- Tifa and Vincent are historically the strongest, and iirc Vincent didn't appear in the first couple contests and started to suck in the later ones.
6- Default vote for the L-Block contest. I think it's got the highest voted finals too. 2007.
7- Cecil feels like someone who has reason to be in every contest, compared to others. It's old final fantasy, those always get nominated.
8- Average makes it tricky. I'm going with Yuna cuz she is one midcarder who doesn't quite have a history of choking I think. Yoshi does, Dante shouldn't be that strong, Master Chief is over, Aeries isn't that strong either I think. Or maybe she is? But Yuna looks like the harder guess to make.
9- It's Zard or Mewtwo. Mewtwo choked harder last contest. Going with Zard on a hunch.
10- Crono and Sonic are the most mistreated N9ers. Crono at least was in a final, Sonic wasn't. I picked Crono first, now I'm editing and picking Sonic.
11- Is Caim the one from SotC? Hope so.
12- The trap here is that old contests have 5x more votes than new contest, so if you got tripled in any contest after 2012 you might have had less votes than Tanner. So I'm going for the highest number. 28.
13- That's the question that spoiled #1, I think. Logic says it's Cloud, with the most finals and all.
14- GFNW. FE doesn't either. ME had one great contest and that's it. Mother kind of sucks too. Portal is from 2006, and has Glados, so probably won matches every contest since then.
15- Tricky. But I think Magus had one contest where he did great? DK had too, but it's a later contest with less votals. So Magus it is.
16- Too lazy to list. I think L-block qualifies (it's Russian). Otherwise I don't remember, but I wouldn't be surprised if the list was 100% Japan outside of that, especially with early contest having the most votals. Gonna pick 1.
17- I see Lloyd actually showing up in conversations as a character who has some strength. May be because of that.
18- Big Boss has the most contest strength. This one feels easy.
19- Which one has the old character who was probably in every contest and is a solid midcarder? Look no further than Starfox.
20- Yoshi is an epic choker. I don't recall Knuckles and "strength" ever being mentioned in the same sentence. Vivi was notable in 2013, so notable I suspect he was worth jack shit before. Zero is that kind of character who has reason to be strong since the dawn of time.

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Leonhart4
05/19/20 8:24:28 AM
#26:


Friendly reminder that Bowser had really bad showings in both 4-way contests when the vote totals were highest.

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Leonhart4
05/19/20 8:28:44 AM
#27:


Also I'm changing my answer on 17 to Laharl because now I'm thinking he actually did make the 2006 field despite the male/female split.

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squexa
05/19/20 9:08:09 AM
#28:


#1 and #13 might depend on whether the bonus matches/tournament of champions count. Because during the 2006 one, Link and Cloud were in all 5 days iirc, which is probably more appearances than some of the N9 members who actually made the contest.

Reading the other answers made me think Zelda's probably correct for #2. L-Block/Draven were 3/4-ways with lots of vote splitting against formidable opponents whereas Zelda vs Carmen is the type of match where Zelda can shoot for 100k.

Starting to feel like #4 could be Mega Man, but X wasn't allowed for the longest time, so Pokemon could still be more.

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transcience
05/19/20 9:14:32 AM
#29:


they do (I put that in the first post but maybe it wasnt clear)

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ctesjbuvf
05/19/20 9:15:07 AM
#30:


I don't think 2007 and 2008 are the best contests to rack up total votes unless you badly blew out fodder though. You're splitting the votes more, so I doubt it's that big a disadvantage for Bowser only making round two in those.

I ended up picking Tifa over Vincent in the other one. Getting to murder the female bracket 1v1 should be worth a lot.

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squexa
05/19/20 9:22:21 AM
#31:


transcience posted...
they do (I put that in the first post but maybe it wasnt clear)

Oh whoops, didn't read this carefully. Hmm, might have to rethink #1 and #13.

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MoogleKupo141
05/19/20 9:44:35 AM
#32:


ok Im going to start a post and then ill edit with more because I keep losing my post mid post

1. my instinct is Sephiroth because of the villains contest

2. Leon sold me on Zelda

3. My instinct here was also villains based. I checked and , it looks like Bowser has been in the more matches than Ganondorf, so I go with him

4. Im not at all sure how many random Pokmon characters got into the last few contests, so it could be that, but Im pretty sure its Mega Man because it has one super good character (Mega Man) and two pretty good characters (X and Zero) and then Protoman has been there, and also it had a girl and two villains and Metal Man and I think thats it? Sonics situation is similar but I think on average the MM stuff is stronger than the Sonic stuff... so yeah

5. again, Leons Vincent logic makes sense to me because our vote totals suck now

6. 2008 probably

7. My first thought was Cecil because it feels like hes been in a bunch of contests and his losses havent all been super embarrassing, but then I realized CATS was in the villains contest so I think its him

8. This is an interesting one because its less about whos good and more about who didnt get very far the past couple years and thus have their average weighed down by our shitty vote totals... Aeris got pretty far in the last contest so I think that will drag her down and let Master Chief win.

9. Seems almost too obvious that it should be Mewtwo, so maybe its not but I think it is

10. probs Crono
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tennisboy213
05/19/20 9:53:58 AM
#33:


  1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus)
  2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus)
  3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby)
  4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono)
  5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack)
  6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010)
  7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS)
  8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna)
  9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno)
  10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario)
  11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind)
  12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28)
  13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus)
  14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound)
  15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong)
  16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9)
  17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher)
  18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot)
  19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney)
  20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi)

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transcience
05/19/20 10:25:02 AM
#34:


I love how Villains Contest Factor is a real consideration here

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Leonhart4
05/19/20 10:27:14 AM
#35:


ctesjbuvf posted...
I don't think 2007 and 2008 are the best contests to rack up total votes unless you badly blew out fodder though. You're splitting the votes more, so I doubt it's that big a disadvantage for Bowser only making round two in those.

I ended up picking Tifa over Vincent in the other one. Getting to murder the female bracket 1v1 should be worth a lot.

I mean Link got 100,000 votes in a 4-way!

Even if you were finishing with only like 20% in those contests, you were still racking up more votes than most matches in the last few contests got in total! Having more matches to your name when vote totals were highest is a big advantage.

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transcience
05/19/20 10:29:41 AM
#36:


well, keep in mind that Links match was with I think Bidoof, Agent J and maybe Edgeworth. that match was historically awful for competition. we just got lucky that Link was there too.

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Leonhart4
05/19/20 10:30:58 AM
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Yeah, you had to have historically bad competition but it's also a testament to just how high vote totals were in that era.

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squexa
05/19/20 10:48:30 AM
#38:


Going to way overanalyze #1. Everything is based purely on my memory (which is not entirely accurate) so I could have some embarrassingly bad calculations here.

  • Broadly, an argument for Link or Cloud would be that they missed 2005/2006, but the tournament of champions/bonus matches in both years + the sheer number of finals they've reached still keeps them in contention. Also not trivial is who made more matches between Link and Cloud. We know Link has a headstart because Cloud got eliminated in the quarterfinals in 2002, but because of Loser's bracket in 2018, Cloud should have an extra 2 (?) matches (Link faced Ganondorf, Pikachu, Cloud, Zelda, Cloud. Whereas Cloud faced Alucard, Crono, Link, Crono, Mario, Zelda, Link). Cloud should also have an extra match in 2003 when he eliminated Link in semis. In every other contest, they should have an equal number of matches since they beeline to the finals. Well, all except 2013 and I'm not sure who got eliminated first. I know Draven/Mewtwo/Sephiroth and Draven/Snake/Samus happened after Draven/Link/Shepard and I know Squirtle/Pikachu/Snake and Draven/Snake/Samus happened after Cloud/Squirtle/Leon(?). So it ultimately I think Cloud wins by 1?
  • The argument for Sephiroth is villains (32 villains so there should be 5 matches) Sephiroth also made the main 2018 bracket, but that's misleading because he should have 4 matches (Wesker, Ryu, Ammy, someone else) in the main bracket but only 2 (Tifa, Mario) in the legends bracket because he got eliminated early, so the total 2018 number should be 1 more than Link. I think Sephiroth made it to the semis in 2013 after beating Kirby and lasted longer than Link/Cloud so he might gain 1 there. This gives Sephiroth a lead of 7 so far and the question is whether how much Link beats him in the other contests. Sephiroth has the same number of matches as Link in 2002/2003 combined and has 1 fewer match in 2005, 1 fewer match in 2010 and 2 fewer in 2006. I really can't 100% remember exactly when Seph exited in 2004/2007/2008, so the rest is a bit of guesswork. I think he made the semis in 2004 (where he lost to Cloud) and he definitely wasn't in the finals for 2008 (It was Snake/Link/Cloud/Crono I think). The big wildcard is 2007 since I can't remember if it was Snake or Sephiroth who was in finals with L-Block/Link/Cloud. I feel like its Snake who snuck by with Cloud/Seph LFF, so I'm going with Cloud > Link = Sephiroth (with Cloud winning by 1 match)
  • Finally, the argument for Samus/Snake is that they actually made the 2005/2006 main bracket. 2005/2006 should have 64 entrants iirc, so there are 12 matches up for grabs total. Let's start with Samus. Iirc Samus made the finals both times (I think Mario vs Samus was the 2005 final but not 100% sure) but got eliminated first day in tournament of champions giving her 13 matches total in 2005/2006. She also made the finals in 2013, giving her a lead of 8 ahead of Link for 2005/2006/2013 combined. She should have 5 matches (Tifa, Mario, Tifa, Snake, Mario) in 2018, tied with Link and 2 fewer in 2010. Now, I can't remember exactly how well she did in 2002-2004, 2007-2008 but I don't think she even made the semis very many times if at all, so I think she's last place by a good amount.
  • Snake made the finals in 2006 and went 4 days in the tournament of champions. I honestly can't remember how he did in 2005, but he was weak. So I think he was in around 13-14 matches in 2005/2006 combined? He also made the finals in 2013, giving him a lead of 8-9 ahead of Link for 2005/2006/2013 combined. Snake also had 4 matches in 2018 (Zelda, Auron, Sonic, Samus), which is 1 fewer than Link and 1 fewer than Link in 2010, but I think he made the final in 2007 and for sure in 2008. Like with Samus, I can't remember exactly how well Snake did in 2002-2004 but he was weak, weak, weak so I still think Link edges him out, but he's probably ahead of Samus.
In the end (based on my probably horribly wrong calculations) I think Cloud might have the most matches surprisingly.

Cloud > Link/Sephiroth > Snake > Samus.

Feel free to correct me on any of these points, since I probably missed a lot of stuff.

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Ringworm
05/19/20 10:50:53 AM
#39:


  1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus)
  2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus)
  3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby)
  4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono)
  5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack)
  6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010)
  7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS)
  8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna)
  9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno)
  10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario)
  11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind)
  12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28)
  13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus)
  14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound)
  15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong)
  16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9)
  17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher)
  18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot)
  19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney)
  20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi)
Not expecting a good result, my memory isn't great.

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squexa
05/19/20 10:58:02 AM
#40:


transcience posted...
they do (I put that in the first post but maybe it wasnt clear)

So for the record, the 2005 Link vs Sephiroth, Link vs Cloud, Mario vs Sephiroth count, but the 2013 Link vs Snake doesn't right?

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Arti
05/19/20 11:08:30 AM
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  1. Who has been in the most character battle matches? (Link | Cloud | Sephiroth | Solid Snake | Samus) Sephiroth does have the Villains contest and 2018, but he also loses out on 2005/2006 as well. Snake has had more deeper runs lately to push him to first, I think.
  2. Link has the highest single match vote total in contest history (oddly enough, in a fourway match). Who is second? (L-Block | Cloud | Zelda | Draven | Samus) I know what match Link's is, and Cloud also had a 4-way where he destroyed enemy competition, if I recall correctly.
  3. Which non-Noble Nine member has received the most total votes in contest history? (Bowser | Squall | Ganondorf | Ryu | Kirby) Even with the villains contest, Squall has been in enough contests to make up for not being in that one, and he usually has a good run before hitting someone of strength.
  4. Which franchise has been in the most character battle matches? (Sonic | Mega Man | Pokemon | Chrono) Joke entries like Nidoran F, Mudkip, and Bidoof, Pikachu's 2007/2008/2013 runs, and Pokemon dominating 2010 and 2013 in general probably easily takes this.
  5. Which of these Final Fantasy VII characters has received the most total votes? (Aeris | Tifa | Vincent | Zack) Hard to choose here, since all have missed significant contests, but Tifa was dragged down in the 4-ways and I don't think either Aerith or Zack have enough matches to pass Vincent's successful runs.
  6. Which contest gathered the most total votes? (2003 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2010) Probably? Definitely is either 2007 or 2008, and I think L-Block's rally is enough to push the former choice.
  7. Which winless character has gathered the most votes? (Guybrush Threepwood | Ramza | Kratos Aurion | Cecil | CATS) CATS made too many early contests and actually had a respectful showing in the villains contest. He also placed 3rd in a 4-way. I think that's enough to push him over the rest of these losers.
  8. Which non-Noble Nine member has the highest average number of votes across all their contest matches (minimum 10 contest matches)? (Dante | Master Chief | Aeris | Yoshi | Yuna) It has to be someone who peaked early and hasn't had much success now, which eliminates Aerith. Master Chief and Yuna were never good. Gonna go with Yoshi here.
  9. Which of these Pokemon characters has received the most total votes? (Charizard | Mewtwo | Red | Missingno) Mewtwo didn't do well in 2010, but he has 2008 which none of the others have, plus a good run in 2013.
  10. Which Noble Nine member has the least number of contest matches? (Mega Man | Sonic | Solid Snake | Crono | Mario) Too many early exits for Crono to make up here.
  11. Which "kain" has the most contest votes? (Kain (Legacy of Cain) | Kaim Argonar | Kane | Caim | Kain Highwind) I have no idea. Just picked the FF character because it's FF.
  12. How many characters have received less total votes than Tanner? (0 | 4 | 11 | 28) If it isn't 28 I am definitely shocked.
  13. Link has the most votes in contest history. Who is second? (Cloud | Solid Snake | Sephiroth | Samus) While I picked Snake for question 1, he's also had some horrible performances in the early contests due to the Solid Shit sprite and generally crumbling against other N9 members. Samus did a much better job standing against them, so I have her here instead.
  14. Which franchise has the most character battle wins? (Half-Life | Fire Emblem | Portal | Mass Effect | Mother/Earthbound) Pretty sure it isn't Half-Life or EarthBound and FE's only notable character is Ike. Portal has Glados and WCC while Mass Effect has Shepard, plus some of the side characters have won a match. Going with the latter.
  15. Which perennial contest failure has received the most contest votes? (Kefka | Tidus | Magus | Donkey Kong) Kefka has the villains contest to help him (and he actually did well there!) Magus lost to a bag of sand. Tidus has problems getting out of the first round. Donkey Kong is probably close, but I think Kefka takes it here.
  16. How many of the top 25 highest voted characters were developed outside of Japan? (0 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 9) I don't even think L-Block falls into the top 25, and barely any Western characters have had any contest strength in the early contests.
  17. The worst winning percentage for a contest character who has won a match is 12.5% (1-7). Who is it? (Lloyd Irving | Laharl | Ratchet | Wesker | Sam Fisher) I definitely know Laharl has won a match, and he keeps showing up so he's probably lost that many too.
  18. Which of these Metal Gear Solid characters has received the most total votes? (Big Boss | Liquid Snake | Revolver Ocelot) Big Boss was saddled with Mario for far too long, while Liquid Snake has made some deep runs, 2010 aside.
  19. Which of these series' has had the most character battle matches? (Fire Emblem | Tales of | Xeno- | Starfox | Ace Attorney) I think Tales just takes this on sheer number of characters and Lloyd being in practically every contest since his debut.
  20. Which 'sidekick' character has the most contest wins? (Knuckles | Zero | Yoshi | Vivi) Knuckles has a round 2 curse, Yoshi had some early exits, and Vivi was only good recently. Zero is the most consistent of these four.



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transience
05/19/20 11:11:44 AM
#42:


squexa posted...
So for the record, the 2005 Link vs Sephiroth, Link vs Cloud, Mario vs Sephiroth count, but the 2013 Link vs Snake doesn't right?

correct. anything you could predict counts, basically, with the exception of the rivalry rumble for obvious reasons.

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ctesjbuvf
05/19/20 11:13:12 AM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Yeah, you had to have historically bad competition but it's also a testament to just how high vote totals were in that era.

transcience only made me more certain in my case by revealing what match Link achieved that in, because that one had Link achieve godly percentages.

2008 and 2007 had the highest votals, but they weren't leagues ahead of the contests right before them.
The average vote intake even win you win a match those years is probably below what you get from losing a close match the years before it. So Bowser and Ganondorf destroying fodder in the villains contest probably makes a huge difference, as would Tifa tearing apart the female contest.

We'll see if it's enough to be in first, but the point stands.

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Leonhart4
05/19/20 11:20:14 AM
#44:


The Villains Contest didn't have great vote totals, but Tifa running roughshod over the female bracket could make a difference.

Although part of me wouldn't be totally surprised if it was Aerith just because she's been in the most overall contests.

Also, Squall still has more contest wins than Bowser or Ganondorf despite the Villains Contest. Or he did at one point. I doubt they've blown past him though because it's not like they were making deeper runs than him consistently. I think Bowser has only lasted longer than Squall in a contest twice (2005 and 2018), and even then, it's only one extra win each. I don't know if Ganondorf has ever outlasted Squall.

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ctesjbuvf
05/19/20 11:31:59 AM
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The villains contest doesn't need particularly high votals for Bowser and Ganondorf to still net a higher vote total per match than you would on average in 2007 and 2008. Competition was that weak. They also did well enough on Sephiroth that the match might be in line with what you'd usually get in 4-ways.

Squall could win that one, but regardless of the outcome, I feel pretty confident you'd rather destroy fodder in the villains contest than advance in 4-ways in terms of vote totals.

Edit: it's not the contest to make a difference, but both Bowser and Ganondorf were division winners in 2018, while Squall lost in round 3 because he drew Zelda. Due to the losers bracket, that means they had at least three more matches than him each. Bowser beat Alucard, so I suppose four for him.

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Leonhart4
05/19/20 12:01:41 PM
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I feel pretty good saying that Squall has the vote total advantage in every contest except 2005 and 2018, and I doubt Ganondorf getting 20% against Link in the double elimination portion makes the difference there. You've got to hope the Villains Contest cancels out Squall's 8 contest advantage.

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ctesjbuvf
05/19/20 12:09:26 PM
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It's possible!

But I'm not all that sure about 05, 06, 10 and 13. Especially 05, I'd guess Bowser there for sure, it's probably the most important thing of them too.

I was on the fence about it when predicting and I still am.

Edit: I realize now 2005 was what you said. Somehow I took that to be the villains contest >_>

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Leonhart4
05/19/20 12:16:08 PM
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I have zero doubt about 2006 because I remember their matches. I feel pretty good about 2010, too. 2013 is always fuzzy for me (except Squall. I can tell you all of his matches ever).

Bowser and Ganondorf's biggest issue generally is that they almost never get high seeds, so they don't draw ultra fodder in round 1 like Squall does getting 1 and 2 seeds.

Just to use 2005 as an example, Squall drew Geno, Bowser had Chun-Li, and Ganondorf had Yuna. I'm not sure Bowser even wins 2005 by that much even with the extra match because of that.

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transience
05/19/20 12:31:01 PM
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I want so badly to resolve this discussion with data but I don't want to end it prematurely

maybe next page

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Leonhart4
05/19/20 12:32:45 PM
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I've been trying to figure out the whole time whether you're throwing me a bone with that question or just trying to troll me!

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