Poll of the Day > Elon Musk has become a red pill icon

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Blightzkrieg
05/17/20 5:50:06 PM
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RCtheWSBC
05/17/20 5:50:32 PM
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High key gross

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Lokarin
05/17/20 6:25:15 PM
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Elon is just salty 'cuz he doesn't understand how virology works... or hyperloops for that matter

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shadowsword87
05/17/20 6:33:47 PM
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Elon really hates his stock huh.

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papercup
05/17/20 6:50:17 PM
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Gross

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rjsilverthorn
05/17/20 6:57:24 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Elon really hates his stock huh.
Shareholders are eventually going to get sick of his shit.
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blu
05/17/20 7:03:17 PM
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Its amazing how much of the internet did a 180 on Musk once Bernie rose to his current level of popularity (yes, I knew he was somewhat popular before too).
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Mead
05/17/20 7:03:59 PM
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Reddit went from loving this dude to doing a total 180 and now they all revile him

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ReggieTheReckless
05/17/20 7:05:48 PM
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I don't know what that means
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PyroBlade1985
05/17/20 7:14:01 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
I don't know what that means
It's a Matrix reference. Red pill means accepting harsh truths. Blue pill means living in willful ignorance. It's also something hard right-wing people use to dunk on hard left-wing people.
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RCtheWSBC
05/17/20 7:15:41 PM
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madadude
05/17/20 7:18:40 PM
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I wonder if Elon knows that The Matrix is largely seen now as an allegory for being transgender, even acknowledged by who directed it and came up with the whole red pill/blue pill concept in the first place.

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Revelation34
05/17/20 8:18:35 PM
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madadude posted...


I wonder if Elon knows that The Matrix is largely seen now as an allegory for being transgender, even acknowledged by who directed it and came up with the whole red pill/blue pill concept in the first place.


Lol what.
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Blighboy
05/17/20 8:24:41 PM
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blu posted...
Its amazing how much of the internet did a 180 on Musk once Bernie rose to his current level of popularity (yes, I knew he was somewhat popular before too).
The Elon worship was always gross to be honest. He threw money at scientists and engineers and that turned into some fantasy of him being a real life Tony Stark.

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ReggieTheReckless
05/17/20 8:27:24 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Lol what.
Yeah, not gonna lie that sounds like something you make up after you already write/make the movie because it sounds good to support your cause and makes talk/free advertisement about your movie that no one cares about anymore
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madadude
05/17/20 8:30:38 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Lol what.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/30/18286436/the-matrix-wachowskis-trans-experience-redpill

https://i-d.vice.com/en_us/article/43vmvp/lilly-wachowski-encourages-viewers-to-reconsider-the-matrix-through-the-lens-of-transness

It's obviously universalized to represent any feelings of people coming to accept that their self they have lived up to a certain point isn't them, and the importance of determining one's own identity (it is Hollywood after all), but for the artists who wrote and directed themselves, the whole journey is definitely influenced by their closeted transness and coming to terms that their public identity isn't their true self.


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madadude
05/17/20 8:44:08 PM
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Even still if you don't think the film was intended to be an allegory for transness (because it probably wasn't their straight up intention at the time, I agree), it's undeniable that they were influenced by their own feelings of dysmorphia and identity. Art is always influenced by the artist's identity whether intentional or not. And it's pretty funny that the whole red pill/blue pill meme has been adopted by a lot of 4chan type people considering who came up with the pill scene in the first place.

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Revelation34
05/17/20 8:46:25 PM
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Because obviously it wasn't. People see a "deeper" meaning in anything they want.
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madadude
05/17/20 8:52:24 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Because obviously it wasn't. People see a "deeper" meaning in anything they want.

You do realize that it's the directors' themselves who have agreed with the readings on it, not just a bunch of people. The Wachowskis are very open that their closeted transness at the time was very influential to how their films dealt with themes of identity and transformation, even if not straight up intentional.

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Revelation34
05/17/20 8:54:01 PM
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madadude posted...


You do realize that it's the directors' themselves who have agreed with the readings on it, not just a bunch of people. The Wachowskis are very open that their closeted transness at the time was very influential to how their films dealt with themes of identity and transformation, even if not straight up intentional.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/78697426/939314552

Plus you said it's seen as an allegory which means people were seeing something before any statement was made.
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madadude
05/17/20 8:58:16 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/78697426/939314552

Plus you said it's seen as an allegory which means people were seeing something before any statement was made.

When you are making a movie about how a character feels disillusioned and not comfortable in his own world, of course one is going to adapt their own feelings of how they personally don't feel comfortable in the world. Like it's not hard to understand, you are just being daft.

People write what they know. It's how movies and art have always worked lol.

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Revelation34
05/17/20 9:01:48 PM
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madadude posted...


When you are making a movie about how a character feels disillusioned and not comfortable in his own world, of course one is going to adapt their own feelings of how they personally don't feel comfortable in the world. Like it's not hard to understand, you are just being daft



I didn't realize that the movie was made by other people besides the Wachowskis.
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DirtBasedSoap
05/17/20 9:04:46 PM
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madadude posted...
The Matrix is largely seen now as an allegory for being transgender,
lol

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madadude
05/17/20 9:06:51 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
I didn't realize that the movie was made by other people besides the Wachowskis.

What?

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madadude
05/17/20 9:09:00 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
lol

I thought this was more well known, maybe just in areas of the internet that regularly talk about movies I guess. The Wachowskis films are all influenced by their transness to a certain degree. The Matrix is just the one where it's most outwardly apparent.

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Yellow
05/17/20 9:10:41 PM
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DirtBasedSoap
05/17/20 9:12:58 PM
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Yellow posted...
God, is that really what he's referencing
doubt it

its probably just some conservative bs

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madadude
05/17/20 9:13:46 PM
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Yellow posted...
God, is that really what he's referencing? I'd be less disappointed if it was the corona conspiracy stuff.

Nah I think it's definitely regarding corona

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Blighboy
05/17/20 9:50:34 PM
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madadude posted...
I thought this was more well known, maybe just in areas of the internet that regularly talk about movies I guess. The Wachowskis films are all influenced by their transness to a certain degree. The Matrix is just the one where it's most outwardly apparent.
The thing you need to get about nerds is they obsess about fiction on a surface level and don't grasp any themes or messages at all.

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DirtBasedSoap
05/17/20 9:52:10 PM
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Blighboy posted...
The thing you need to get about nerds is they obsess about fiction on a surface level and don't grasp any themes or messages at all.
I highly doubt a single person thought the matrix was about being trans the first 5-10 years it had been out. Im not saying this because I think there is anything wrong with being trans, it just seems like a huge stretch.

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ZBug_
05/17/20 10:15:34 PM
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The more Elon Musk talks the less I like him.

which is unfortunate because electric cars are cool.

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ChaosAzeroth
05/17/20 10:48:48 PM
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madadude posted...


I wonder if Elon knows that The Matrix is largely seen now as an allegory for being transgender, even acknowledged by who directed it and came up with the whole red pill/blue pill concept in the first place.

I was looking to see if anyone posted that response.
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emagdnE
05/17/20 11:09:47 PM
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Really guys? The Wachowski Brothers are now the Wachowski Sisters and you find it hard to believe that they inserted their own feelings of identity disillusionment into their story?

Come on.

Blighboy posted...

The Elon worship was always gross to be honest. He threw money at scientists and engineers and that turned into some fantasy of him being a real life Tony Stark.

Turns out he was Obadiah Stane all along. Oopsies~.
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RedPixel
05/17/20 11:12:43 PM
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madadude posted...
I wonder if Elon knows that The Matrix is largely seen now as an allegory for being transgender, even acknowledged by who directed it and came up with the whole red pill/blue pill concept in the first place.

This has got to be the strangest interpretation of the Matrix I have ever seen.
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Revelation34
05/17/20 11:44:31 PM
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madadude posted...


What?


Your claim was that people said it was an allegory and then it was confirmed by them.

madadude posted...


I thought this was more well known, maybe just in areas of the internet that regularly talk about movies I guess. The Wachowskis films are all influenced by their transness to a certain degree. The Matrix is just the one where it's most outwardly apparent.


Lmao.
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Blighboy
05/17/20 11:48:00 PM
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https://youtu.be/afWLwPZZv2w

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Zeus
05/18/20 12:00:44 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Lol what.

Madadude posts a lot of crazy shit for lulz.

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shadowsword87
05/18/20 12:44:47 AM
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I don't think it's weird to trust the directors about the allegory for the movie that they made?

It seems... fairly straightforward to me.

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DirtBasedSoap
05/18/20 12:47:51 AM
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Zeus posted...
Madadude posts a lot of crazy shit for lulz.
no he doesnt. I feel like he barely posts and when he does its pretty level-headed shit.

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deoxxys
05/18/20 12:56:28 AM
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Elon Musk is Tony Stark

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dedbus
05/18/20 12:58:49 AM
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it's about heroin.
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joemodda
05/18/20 1:02:06 AM
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He's referencing the Matrix and everyone is losing their minds...?

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SpaceBear_
05/18/20 1:12:57 AM
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The Matrix is a movie about living a lie and sacrificing comfort to be your true self.

The creators are transgender and people ITT are claiming those things aren't connected?

Maybe back when it was released nobody would've made that connection, but it seems pretty obvious now, no?

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DirtBasedSoap
05/18/20 1:13:35 AM
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joemodda posted...
He's referencing the Matrix and everyone is losing their minds...?
youve gotta be pretty naive to think its just referencing the matrix lol

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Revelation34
05/18/20 1:14:52 AM
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SpaceBear_ posted...
The Matrix is a movie about living a lie and sacrificing comfort to be your true self.

The creators are transgender and people ITT are claiming those things aren't connected?

Maybe back when it was released nobody would've made that connection, but it seems pretty obvious now, no?


It's a retcon.
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shadowsword87
05/18/20 1:33:31 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
It's a retcon.

You know who I would trust if it was, or was not, a retcon?
The people who made it.

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TheWitchMorgana
05/18/20 1:45:00 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...
I don't think it's weird to trust the directors about the allegory for the movie that they made?

It seems... fairly straightforward to me.

i mean let's be real most of these dudes have never thought critically about any media they consume

people get upset at the idea that a work of art could have a meaning that isn't obvious because they think that anything they themselves didn't pick up on couldn't have really been there. it's very disheartening and honestly seems like it's pushing back against critical thought

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OhhhJa
05/18/20 1:53:25 AM
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Man this guy really pisses off leftists and I'm not sure why lol
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Fazeo13
05/18/20 6:44:26 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
Man this guy really pisses off leftists and I'm not sure why lol

Yeah I don't even know why she was so angry with him?
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helIy
05/18/20 7:09:57 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...
I don't think it's weird to trust the directors about the allegory for the movie that they made?

It seems... fairly straightforward to me.
yeah

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