Board 8 > I spent $1100 on Hidden Fates Pokemon Cards

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barreldragon88
06/16/20 5:56:22 PM
#251:


So you're saying we're better off opening up HF than selling unopened?

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ShatteredElysium
06/16/20 6:18:47 PM
#252:


3DSRage posted...
SE, the pull rates in HF are basically double your money. Just a heads up. It's not like regular packs. There is one spot in the pull that can be a reverse holo, or one of 94 shiny vault cards.

I spent $180 the other day, and pulled like $400 worth of ungraded cards.

But how easy is it to sell them individually? $180 worth of sealed product sells for about $350. So talking about $50 difference but is that going to get eroded away by bad luck / not being able to sell them / postage costs?
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3DSRage
06/17/20 2:55:35 AM
#253:


It's probably less good for straight profit business, to open packs.

But after 350 to 400 packs, you have fair odds at every card. I got lucky with getting 2 charizard and 3 umbreon in 350 packs, but don't forget that you can sell everything else you pull. It's not bad!
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ShatteredElysium
06/19/20 9:05:55 AM
#254:


All my tins arrived so I now have 64 tins of Hidden Fates in my house.

Then there's all the Shining Legends stuff and misc stuff like Mewtwo Tag Team tins and Mystery Boxes that I have.

I probably have like $2500-3000 worth of pokemon cards in the house
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ShatteredElysium
06/19/20 9:37:06 AM
#255:


The issue I'm going to have is I can't really sell anything for 2 weeks. I'm fairly (like 99%) certain I currently have COVID. So I don't want to handle any goods even if the risk is minimal. The 2 things I had that sold in the 3 days I've been showing symptoms, I'm having my missus handle but even that I don't feel great about as even if she isn't showing symptoms there's a chance she has it too.

All my newest Hidden Fates stuff is actually still in the boxes so I don't even know how much they have screwed me on variation. If it's anything like the past, probably 20+ Raichu Tins, 10 Gyarados and like 3 Charizard
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barreldragon88
06/19/20 12:37:23 PM
#256:


I actually got a good amount of Charizard tins this time, more than I anticipated. Had one box of all Charizard's, but then they also did one box of all Gyarados's. Wonder if Mewtwo Tag Team and Mystery Boxes are sought after at all

If you're that certain you have COVID, how do you think you contracted it? You're going to get tested, right?

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ShatteredElysium
06/20/20 8:08:39 AM
#257:


I have no idea where I contracted it. I did have a best guess but considering none of the other people who were with me are showing any symptoms, it likely wasn't that. Kicker is I always wear a mask everywhere (I actually carry 3 in my car to ensure the mask I use is clean) and I religiously wash my hands when I get back to the car after being out in public. I am sure going around lots of Walmarts and Targets didn't help even if I took the correct precautions.

I was going to get tested but not sure now. My symptoms have mostly subsided and I am almost certain it is COVID so I am not sure what a positive test would do for me at this point. My missus will likely get tested as she is showing no symptoms but obviously shares a house with me. I have been sleeping separate to her during this but she's still been around me to look after me. If she goes, I'll probably just go along too since it's a drivethrough place.
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ShatteredElysium
06/20/20 8:11:44 AM
#258:


With the Mewtwo and Mystery Boxes stuff, I don't know.

When I googled the Mystery Boxes in store, they were selling every day on ebay for above the price I could get them for in Walmart. Mine still have not sold though and sales seem to have dropped since I picked them up.

Mewtwo Tag Team stuff seems to sell for $40 or so and is $25 in store. I have only ever seen those tins once in all the stores I've been in though and I bought them all except for the one tin that was damaged. The other tag team stuff doesn't seem to sell for the same price so must just be the Mewtwo stuff is rarer or more sought after.
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barreldragon88
06/20/20 2:37:16 PM
#259:


Hope you'll be OK. Definitely go get medical care if things worsen

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ShatteredElysium
06/23/20 7:35:14 PM
#260:


Thanks. Feeling mostly fine now. A few lingering symptoms but nothing severe.

I'm in an awkward position with selling though. Seems that now mine up for $375 for 12 are the cheapest ones. Others seems to now to be in the $390-450 range (and selling for that). I'm also seeing 36 booster packs selling for $300 and others listed for $350. I have offers of $365 on the table now but I'm tempted to pull the auction and wait since prices seem to keep trending upwards and tins seem to be sold out everywhere.

Even at $300-310 for 36 boosters, that is vastly more profit than $375 for 12 tins. It's more on a per pack basis and it's significantly easier/cheaper to ship 36 boosters than 12 tins.

Edit: Nevermind. It sold so can't pull.
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barreldragon88
06/23/20 9:00:28 PM
#261:


Thanks for the heads up. 12 tins are listing for well above $400 from what I can see. The problem with not selling tin as is is you have to worry about what to do with all the tins. They're not very sought after

I'm looking at the same analysis for Shiny Darkrai Collection (without figure) and it seems to make more sense to sell unopened

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ShatteredElysium
06/23/20 9:08:04 PM
#262:


I've actually noticed a few auctions recently where people are selling empty tins. They aren't getting tons for them and some are including the GX cards too but they are certainly getting enough to warrant selling them as long as you charge shipping.

Quick search shows these selling in the past few days

25 empty tins for $35 (plus $15 shipping)
30 empty tins plus 26 GX cards for $47 (plus $28 shipping)
9 empty tins for best offer (listed at $35. Not sure why ebay won't tell you best offer accepted price)

I'd imagine best bet is to just list them as an Auction with shipping charged and whatever they sell for, they sell for.

Alternatively I've seen people bundle the tins in with other sales as a container for them. Depending on the item that makes shipping harder though.
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ShatteredElysium
06/23/20 11:57:03 PM
#263:


I listed 36 boosters for $315. Last sold was for $280-300 and everyone else has them listed at $350+ so figured it was worth throwing them up.

I listed them at 8:52pm. They sold at 11:34pm
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barreldragon88
06/24/20 12:45:07 AM
#264:


Why did you list at such a discount?

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ShatteredElysium
06/24/20 9:33:46 AM
#265:


I didn't think it was really a discount when the last sold were $280-300. I figured the people who had them listed at $350-400 were just overpriced, especially when you could buy 12 tins for that price range.

If the guy who bought my 12 tins doesn't pay within 2 days, I'm canceling his order. He's the only person I've had who hasn't instantly paid and prices still seem to be increasing.
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barreldragon88
06/24/20 12:42:03 PM
#266:


I'm in no rush to sell HF. Prices continue to rise and GF looks to actually be out of it, so there's no cost-effective way to replenish stock

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ffmasterjose
06/26/20 4:28:53 AM
#267:


I picked up a Blastoise tin at Target for like 20 bucks because I looked up the 4 packs that are in it and one of them is a Black & White Plasma Blast pack. Now I'm going to sit on this thing for a while but is it a better idea to take the packs out or leave 'em sealed in?

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3DSRage
06/30/20 7:13:25 AM
#268:


So I finally sent 15 cards to PSA to get graded. 2 Charizards and 3 Umbreons along with others. After I sent, I pulled a THIRD charizard, so I'm done opening. Currently have 28 packs left that I'll sell and make money on (paid 200 CAD for those, through tins).

I listed my base HF cards (1-69) about a week ago, made $100-200 on that. Still going... listed some shiny vault regular holos last night, and will list the rest today.

All in all, I'm set to make very good profits, only selling a few sealed and doubles, while collecting the set for myself.

I love HF! Wish me luck that my livelihood makes it to PSA and back during covid crisis
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barreldragon88
06/30/20 1:37:12 PM
#269:


How many packs did you open to get the zard's and breon's?

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3DSRage
06/30/20 1:53:14 PM
#270:


barreldragon88 posted...
How many packs did you open to get the zard's and breon's?

450? I have to count my code cards.

Just found 50 packs at wmart for $350 CAD...

TOO EASY
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barreldragon88
06/30/20 3:34:25 PM
#271:


50 HF or something else?

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3DSRage
06/30/20 9:30:28 PM
#272:


barreldragon88 posted...
50 HF or something else?
All HF. Those 2pack repacks exclusive to Canada?
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barreldragon88
07/01/20 1:34:18 AM
#273:


Might be

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DoomTheGyarados
07/01/20 8:36:28 AM
#274:


Went on a bit of a spending spree last night. Picked up some PSA candidate WOTC cards, 4 first edition neo genesis packs, and 3000 worth of HGSS-XY era tins along with a few other things.

Hype

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barreldragon88
07/01/20 1:40:42 PM
#275:


Are Neo Genesis and HGSS-XY tins much less popular than HF?

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DoomTheGyarados
07/01/20 3:13:40 PM
#276:


Uh, neo genesis first edition packs go for several hundred dollars each. All of those things far dwarf hf in value.

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ShatteredElysium
07/01/20 5:38:50 PM
#277:


You know what makes me suspect of GameStop's Hidden Fates supply running out? Finally got around to opening all my boxes now I feel COVID free and am out of my 14 day coronatine. Every single box came with 1 of each type of tin. So they sold out but just happened to be able to distribute every box evenly? Mine definitely weren't packed at the same time either as they came in different size boxes and arrived at different times. And 12 boxes seems a relative large sample size given last time I ordered less boxes and got a mish mash in every box

I half wonder if someone at Gamestop themselves realized they could sell for more outside the norm given how they jack up old game prices when demand runs dry too.
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3DSRage
07/01/20 5:56:40 PM
#278:


barreldragon88 posted...
Are Neo Genesis and HGSS-XY tins much less popular than HF?

Haha!!!
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ShatteredElysium
07/01/20 6:01:33 PM
#279:


That probably explains why these shitty Walmart boxes with 'mystery' boosters in that have a 1 in 5 chance of containing vintage packs sell well. People are basically gambling on getting a vintage pack that is worth a lot more than the mystery box.
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3DSRage
07/01/20 6:15:46 PM
#280:


ShatteredElysium posted...
You know what makes me suspect of GameStop's Hidden Fates supply running out? Finally got around to opening all my boxes now I feel COVID free and am out of my 14 day coronatine. Every single box came with 1 of each type of tin. So they sold out but just happened to be able to distribute every box evenly? Mine definitely weren't packed at the same time either as they came in different size boxes and arrived at different times. And 12 boxes seems a relative large sample size given last time I ordered less boxes and got a mish mash in every box

I half wonder if someone at Gamestop themselves realized they could sell for more outside the norm given how they jack up old game prices when demand runs dry too.
Interesting! It might be even distribution to online orders and sent to stores. Isn't crazy to believe!
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ShatteredElysium
07/01/20 6:18:47 PM
#281:


I mean Gamestop is the king of shitty business practices so it would not remotely surprise me if they said they ran out when they didn't and then tried to sell it for a higher price at a later date or had someone buy it to resell elsewhere for more.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/01/20 6:19:38 PM
#282:


They can't legally do that btw

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ShatteredElysium
07/01/20 6:23:10 PM
#283:


I know but there's workarounds for everything
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Pokalicious
07/01/20 8:53:27 PM
#284:


Chris do you also have vast YGO TCG cards knowledge?

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barreldragon88
07/01/20 9:38:53 PM
#285:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
They can't legally do that btw
How would people know though

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ShatteredElysium
07/02/20 9:18:34 AM
#286:


Came across 2 Eevee and Snorlax tag team tins this morning. I'd never seen them before but after a quick Google search it seems they aren't worth anything (or at least not enough to warrant buying)
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DoomTheGyarados
07/02/20 11:31:06 AM
#287:


Businesses, especially stupid big businesses, have a lot of paperwork to sort through in terms of being able to sell things at MSRP and the like in a broad way. Like I can't answer 'how anyone would know' but it likely involves a lot of paperwork trails and the higher ups of Gamestop would never dare mess with Nintendo because it is as simple as Nintendo saying 'we don't send you anymore games' to literally kill Gamestop dead.

Now random person doing it? Maybe, but not as a business practice.

Not much YGO knowledge although might get into that later this year!

Also bought a PSA 10 Crystal Kabutops for 1100 for my personal collection yesterday SUPER happy.

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barreldragon88
07/02/20 12:51:50 PM
#288:


You must have a ton of PSA cards in collection. Buying those cards with the profit you make from selling is nice

Poka, I'm not the best person to ask about YGO, but what do you want to know?

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Pokalicious
07/02/20 9:53:40 PM
#289:


barreldragon88 posted...
You must have a ton of PSA cards in collection. Buying those cards with the profit you make from selling is nice

Poka, I'm not the best person to ask about YGO, but what do you want to know?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78809887

Gravy helped me a bunch, but basically money is tight and I wanna see if I can get a good amount selling my old YGO cards.

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Pokalicious
07/07/20 10:57:22 PM
#290:


Bump

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3DSRage
07/12/20 11:32:42 PM
#291:


So excited for my psa grades...

2 Charizard sv
3 Umbreon sv
1 Espeon sv
1 Darkrai sv
1 Ninetales sv
1 Articuno sv
1 Gold Star Flareon
1 Gold Zacian
1 HF base set Charizard
1 Mew/Mewtwo tag team promo
1 Stained Glass birds promo
1 Tapu Koko sv

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DoomTheGyarados
07/13/20 3:28:23 AM
#292:


I sent in 298 cards to CGC this week (new to grading cards but well established in the grading community, so just as good as PSA more than likely)

May the gods be with me.

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3DSRage
07/13/20 11:18:03 AM
#293:


298! wow!!
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3DSRage
07/13/20 11:18:20 AM
#294:


Why did you choose them?
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DoomTheGyarados
07/13/20 11:21:20 AM
#295:


they are very high quality, same as psa in terms of overall, and they return your cards twice as fast due to not having a massive backlog.

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ffmasterjose
07/22/20 9:07:28 AM
#296:


Theres this one grading service, I forget the name, but they throw out high grades often and it's dirt cheap per card. Their labels look cheap too.

So basically you're better off just going through one of the more respected services like Beckett or PSA


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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/20 10:11:01 AM
#297:


ffmasterjose posted...
Theres this one grading service, I forget the name, but they throw out high grades often and it's dirt cheap per card. Their labels look cheap too.

So basically you're better off just going through one of the more respected services like Beckett or PSA

CGC is respected, just new to cards.

It is GMA you want to avoid.

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ffmasterjose
07/22/20 10:24:06 AM
#298:


I'm like 99% sure GMA was the one i was talking about. That sounds right.

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barreldragon88
07/22/20 10:03:55 PM
#299:


If a card is worth over $100, but is not 1st ed and is in good condition, is it worth it to get it graded?

So CGC turnaround time is like 1.5 months?

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ShatteredElysium
07/29/20 12:00:40 AM
#300:


Sold 36 Hidden Fates packs on ebay for $350. Like 1 second after I hit purchase shipping label (Which is $14 with insurance) I realize the buyer is in not only in Orlando but is 10 minutes drive from me and literally enroute to work. Probably adds like 45-60 secs to park up, drop it off and hop back into my car.

Now I don't know whether to physically drop it off or not as I can't refund the shipping and it will show as undelivered via tracking if I don't use it. Guess I kinda have to send it through the post service now.
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