Board 8 > The Show EP 8 - Wrapping Up The Excellent GotD 2020 Contest, with Leon and KP!

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Ngamer64
05/15/20 7:03:50 PM
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With the Game of the Decade awarded and all the results final, it's time to look back on the Contest that was... and even more importantly, look forward into what could be a very bright future for our GameFAQs bracket battles! There were only three men I trusted to get down to all the specifics.

http://board8.speedrunwiki.com/interviews/theshow/20200514-TheShowEP08.mp3

* a great Contest deserves a great wrapup- Four Way Breakdown with Leon and KP!
* where do we go from here? our thoughts on SB's "What's Next" poll
* reviewing the last week of results, including an awesome Game of the Century bonus poll
* Show Exclusive: COVID-19 unmasked in a rare one on one interview!
* where does GotD 2020 rank on our personal lists of Best Contests?

This one turned out great IMO, maybe my favorite of the whole season- hope you enjoy!
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ZenOfThunder
05/15/20 7:05:25 PM
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one last ride

Ngamer64 posted...
Four Way Breakdown with Leon and KP!

https://i.imgur.com/2cxo1Hq.gif

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Ngamer64
05/15/20 7:05:34 PM
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Ngamer's Roadmap
2021 - Best. System. Ever.
2022 - Best Video Game Character Ever (20th Anniversary, All-Fictional Edition)
2023 - Best Game of the 90s
2024 - Best Series Ever II
2025 - Game of the Century (2000 - 2025)


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LeonhartFour
05/15/20 7:07:36 PM
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man I didn't even get to stick around for the best part

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ZeldaTPLink
05/15/20 7:15:24 PM
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Ngamer64 posted...
* Show Exclusive: COVID-19 unmasked in a rare one on one interview!

What

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ZenOfThunder
05/15/20 7:15:57 PM
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Show Exclusive: COVID-19 unmasked in a rare one on one interview!

i am predicting it is luster

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KamikazePotato
05/15/20 7:15:59 PM
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Thanks again for having me on the Show! Apologies to Leon, who stayed up way too late on our behalf!

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_SecretSquirrel
05/15/20 7:16:06 PM
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Tag for later

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LeonhartFour
05/15/20 7:17:55 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Thanks again for having me on the Show! Apologies to Leon, who stayed up way too late on our behalf!

Nah, no need to apologize. I feel bad I had to bail out halfway through. I just wish things had worked out for me to be able to stay for the whole recording.

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LordoftheMorons
05/15/20 7:18:51 PM
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tag

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LordoftheMorons
05/15/20 7:19:37 PM
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Ngamer64 posted...
* Show Exclusive: COVID-19 unmasked in a rare one on one interview!
Maybe "unmasked" isn't the most prudent choice...!

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LeonhartFour
05/15/20 7:20:29 PM
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maybe it should've said "we close in on COVID-19's true identity!" instead

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LordoftheMorons
05/15/20 7:29:37 PM
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It is indeed crazy that I've spent the majority of my life here!

I didn't see the moon thing :(

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ZenOfThunder
05/15/20 7:31:52 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
It is indeed crazy that I've spent the majority of my life here!

I didn't see the moon thing :(

ZenOfThunder posted...
https://i.imgur.com/91YzTES.mp4

made gif of moon for archiving purposes

ZenOfThunder posted...
https://i.imgur.com/my0qbDo.mp4


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LordoftheMorons
05/15/20 7:37:19 PM
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Thanks Zen!

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Whiskey_Nick
05/15/20 7:38:39 PM
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You could probably do a 30 hour podcast of pre/post show COVID talk

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Advokaiser
05/15/20 9:04:01 PM
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Hey, @LeonhartFour @Ngamer64 @CaptainOfCrush , kind of off-topic, but...

How was my English? Did I have any perceivable accent?

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LeonhartFour
05/15/20 9:13:56 PM
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Whiskey_Nick posted...
You could probably do a 30 hour podcast of pre/post show COVID talk

we spent like 3 hours before recording talking about both real COVID-19 and user COVID-19

which is why I couldn't stay for the whole recording!

Advokaiser posted...
Hey, @LeonhartFour @Ngamer64 @CaptainOfCrush , kind of off-topic, but...

How was my English? Did I have any perceivable accent?

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azuarc
05/15/20 9:15:43 PM
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Grats in advance, Leon, for your wedding.

And yes, SB. We bow down before you. Thank you so much for running the contest and how fantastic a job you did of setting it up and administering it.

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azuarc
05/15/20 9:44:24 PM
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Removing seeding and inverting the match-ups is precisely what I've done in VGMC for several years. I didn't do it this year, and it's certainly resulted in a different set of reactions to the bracket and to the people who handled the seeding.

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Gall
05/15/20 9:52:37 PM
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Has anyone mocked up a 32 console bracket yet? I'd like to see how many decent ones there really are before I get on board with the idea.

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SwiftyDC
05/15/20 10:02:16 PM
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I got alot of catching up to do!

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Big Bob
05/15/20 10:48:00 PM
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I'm actually on board for best story. Hell, I'll nominate 10 games off the top of my head:

Earthbound
Persona 4
Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
Silent Hill 2
Celeste
NieR: Automata
Final Fantasy X
Portal
The Witcher III
Spec Ops: The Line

I'd probably think harder about it if this was a real contest, but these were the first to pop into my head.

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TAFKAHurricane
05/15/20 10:52:49 PM
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Give us Villains and throw in Darth Vader as the testing the waters for an All Fictional Character Battle. Or just give me my Best Character of the 2000s so Auron and FFX can get their contest win.

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SwiftyDC
05/15/20 11:22:45 PM
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TAFKAHurricane posted...
Give us Villains and throw in Darth Vader as the testing the waters for an All Fictional Character Battle. Or just give me my Best Character of the 2000s so Auron and FFX can get their contest win.

Or Arkham Asylum/City Joker.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/15/20 11:25:58 PM
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Dial up internet. This is already a nostalgia trip of sorts.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/15/20 11:35:33 PM
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I am so happy that I got to entertain people with memey match pictures.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/15/20 11:47:50 PM
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As someone that makes a lot of the match pictures, I don't mind Allen doing the first couple rounds. Firstly, four matches a day means you need to be particular with them so they don't look like ass on smaller screens, something that I feel was a problem even when we had only two matches a day. Secondly, it means we avoid situations where someone puts a lot of time and effort into trying something original, but getting snubbed because one dude just cropped the box art and shoved it on the front page (2009 was terrible with this). Lastly, entrusting us with too many entrants means one entrant might get glossed over and that's how we end up with Vincent in a suit on the front page because only guy submitted from them.

I say this with some trepidation, only because there were definitely a few games in the bracket I would have jumped to make a really cool picture for, but they weren't exactly likely to make the later rounds. I do miss being able to create stuff with the fodder I do like in the contests.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/15/20 11:57:56 PM
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On the note of seeding, shout out to Division 7 for managing to have no seeding upsets, but still catching a lot of people off guard anyway.

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SwiftyDC
05/16/20 12:02:46 AM
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Best music track contest

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_SecretSquirrel
05/16/20 12:10:59 AM
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On the note of the Villains Contest doing so well, I also would hope anyone voting for Villains II would at least may not remember CJayC's strict definition of a villain, and perhaps Allen would a little bit better about allowing antagonists in that aren't strictly evil. Villains could have been a far better concept if we had characters like Magus, Knuckles, Riku, Pokemon Trainer Blue, etc. in the mix as well as the Villains themselves.

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LeonhartFour
05/16/20 12:13:03 AM
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azuarc posted...
Grats in advance, Leon, for your wedding.

Thank you!

_SecretSquirrel posted...
On the note of the Villains Contest doing so well, I also would hope anyone voting for Villains II would at least may not remember CJayC's strict definition of a villain, and perhaps Allen would a little bit better about allowing antagonists in that aren't strictly evil. Villains could have been a far better concept if we had characters like Magus, Knuckles, Riku, Pokemon Trainer Blue, etc. in the mix as well as the Villains themselves.

Yes, this would definitely help improve the quality of the contest if Allen would be a little looser with what he considers a villain.

I still remember people trying to push for Mario because he's the antagonist in Donkey Kong Jr.

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Ngamer64
05/16/20 12:16:03 AM
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If anyone would like a feel for how the proposed Best Series II bracket would look, check out this mockup from MetalMind:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78689641

SwiftyDC posted...
Best music track contest
I pushed for this in the 2018 wrapup episode and it didn't get any traction. Too many concerns with licensing (are they youtube links? what happens when one of them gets pulled down mid-match?) and people not taking the time to listen to both and just voting for Hyrule Theme because they recognize it.

Gall posted...
Has anyone mocked up a 32 console bracket yet? I'd like to see how many decent ones there really are before I get on board with the idea.
Yes good idea, could someone please do this and link it here?

Whiskey_Nick posted...
You could probably do a 30 hour podcast of pre/post show COVID talk
I'm sure I could get over 10 hours of content if I stitched everything together. But sorry, it will never happen- those sessions were for pure venting on my part, not public consumption!

That being said I might consider some Bonus Content on other subjects, for instance our nostalgic movies/Star Wars takedown was pretty good, I thought.


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azuarc
05/16/20 12:20:15 AM
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Thank you for giving JONA his due at the end there. I'd like to point out I was also on the second chance leaderboard, though! (Not at the top, maybe around 30ish?)

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Best music track contest

*ears perk up*

https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Best_OST_Contest ? (There was also a 2, 3, and 4, and thanks to Banshiryuu last year, finally a 5.)

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LeonhartFour
05/16/20 12:21:02 AM
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I feel like I missed all the cool pre- and post-show conversations.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/16/20 12:21:34 AM
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The one thing that makes we a bit weary of Best Story in Gaming is the spoiler potential. Can't really go too deep into the discussion if it's something on my queue, but I still feel like it's going to be pretty similar to a games contest in terms of results.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/16/20 12:23:15 AM
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LeonhartFour posted...
I feel like I missed all the cool pre- and post-show conversations.
I had some good fun with the pre and post show conversations both times I was on, but yeah, they were a bit too private to be published on the board.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/16/20 12:26:03 AM
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Story contest: Skies of Arcadia vs. Sonic the Hedgehog lore.

I would rage so hard.

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LeonhartFour
05/16/20 12:27:27 AM
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no I mean I feel like all the cool stuff Ng and yo talk about happening in the pre- and post-show happened on episodes I wasn't present for (or had to bail early on)

But I also tend to be a passive listener during those conversations since I don't want to interrupt the conversation or change the subject. I've always been the person who waits my turn to talk, and it's hard to find the chance to squeeze in there on a Skype call if someone doesn't specifically ask you to talk.

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SwiftyDC
05/16/20 12:28:16 AM
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I'd be so down for an all-fictional character battle. Bring in some new blood!

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_SecretSquirrel
05/16/20 12:31:36 AM
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Best System Ever sounds like a good idea for a month of Poll of the Days, but I wouldn't want it coming at the expense of a real contest with bracketmaking and prizes and such. Also, it seems like the last couple generations of gaming have shifted away from console exclusives (at least for Sony and MS) to more multi-platform experiences (and crossplay is the current jam that could really see the lines blur even more), which means that the newest consoles feel a bit too homogenized to compete with their older counterparts, and we know it's going to be the SNES and PS2 vs. The World anyway.

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Polycosm
05/16/20 12:33:51 AM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Maybe "unmasked" isn't the most prudent choice...!

Watch out-- the gloves are off!
(please put them back on)

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LeonhartFour
05/16/20 12:34:29 AM
#43:


Yeah, I meant to mention there would be an issue with recent console generations because you'd have to make the call about whether to restrict games to console exclusives, in which case something like the Xbone would be, well, boned. Or even the Xbox 360 since most of its big non-Halo/Gears of War games aren't exclusive anymore.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/16/20 12:41:06 AM
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KP hits the other problem, in that 32 entrants in just about any contest these days is just not going to have enough permutations to be a viable competition. You'd either have to hope for a viable upset to break everyone's brackets, or you'd have to resort to an all Oracle contest in the vein of second chance, which doesn't sound very enticiting to anyone but the fraction of Board 8ers that already do the Oracle challenge.

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Polycosm
05/16/20 12:50:39 AM
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I like the idea of splitting up PC into multiple categories for purposes of a Systems contest. I always thought of CD-ROM as it's own platform, for example. I'm not sure how granular you can go on the tech before it gets too convoluted though. Ng's suggestion of "old-school" and "modern" is probably the cleanest way to do it.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/16/20 12:54:12 AM
#46:


My thoughts on All Fictional would be to do a 128 character contest, designate 16 spots to all fictional characters, using the cream of the crop only, and have them evenly dispersed across the bracket, with each division having two outsiders, one on each side. You could even go as far as having one outsider in each seed, like Batman being the one seed of his division, Goku being a two seed on the other side, Spider-man being a three in the middle of the bracket, and someone a bit more fringe like James Bond is a 16 in Goku's division.

The cap is what keeps the contest grounded in video gaming culture, but with them all spread out, now the aim of the contest is seeing where all these characters land. If you want to think GameFAQs is going to reject the outsiders, having them mostly fall in the early rounds is a good strategy for bracket differentiation. If you think a few of these characters can hang with the Noble Niners, this gives a great chance to contend in climatic spots in the bracket like the Division finals, especially if the non-ficitional characters are seeded properly.

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Advokaiser
05/16/20 1:07:37 AM
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Best Story in Gaming?

I find that idea to be way too subjective and divisive. The field would be too one-sided by having 90% of RPGs, and the definition of "best story" seems already too loose and subjective on its own.

Besides, people would just vote for the game they like more anyways.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/16/20 1:07:51 AM
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Also, the possibility of a wrestler in the All Fictional Character Battle was discussed last week, and I must bring to you guys news that has developed since then.

https://www.pocketgamer.com/articles/083002/the-king-of-fighters-allstar-adds- wwe-superstars-including-the-rock-john-cena-and-undertaker-to-its-giant-roster/

https://twitter.com/jonsp2000/status/1261517564636626944

John Cena vs. Terry Bogard can now be a thing. Albeit it's a shitty mobile game, but it deserves some consideration here.

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_SecretSquirrel
05/16/20 1:13:55 AM
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I know you guys seem a little opposed to something like a cap, but it may the sort of negotiating tool that could feasibly get Allen to a compromise on this. I feel like his main concern is that he doesn't want to see the bracket flooded with characters that have very little to actually do with gaming (but are technically eligible due to being in some shovelware crap), and frankly I don't want to see half the bracket devoted to all of pop-culture either, even if they'll have slightly more potential to win a match than the third tier visual novel characters they would in theory be replacing.

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KamikazePotato
05/16/20 1:14:11 AM
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Best Story would make a fun little B8 contest, though.

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