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Team Rocket Elite
08/28/20 9:06:39 PM
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*katonk*
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Congrats to azuarc for winning the GotD 2020 Guru Contest!
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NFUN
08/28/20 9:07:20 PM
#252:


*munchmunchmunch*

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LeonhartFour
08/28/20 9:09:02 PM
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bwburke94
08/28/20 9:42:12 PM
#254:


With how obsessed she is over Snackoos, they should call her Detective Munch.

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Llarian
09/02/20 2:28:55 PM
#255:


Okay, so the update is that Apollo Justice is due back to the library. This will be my motivation to finish it posthaste and reduce my fines overall.

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colliding
09/02/20 4:03:15 PM
#256:


I know a lot of people hated what they did with Ema in AJ, but I thought she was fine and probably the most pleasant character in the game overall, even better than Trucy.
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swirIdude
09/02/20 4:16:50 PM
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Llarian posted...
Okay, so the update is that Apollo Justice is due back to the library. This will be my motivation to finish it posthaste and reduce my fines overall.

Your library has DS games?! Amazing.

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Leonhart4
09/02/20 4:26:46 PM
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Llarian
09/06/20 12:29:30 AM
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Case 4-3 - Turnabout Serenade

We found an igniter in Lamiroirs room, we talked to Klavier and find a similar thingy in his burnt guitar. We talk to Det. Skye and realize that the remote button has a reach of up to 30 feet, which means someone could have detonated the guitar while they were underground in or around the dressing rooms. Klavier also gives us a replica of a Borginian cocoon. This is one weird country. I can see why no ones heard of it before.

We run into Daryan, whos cranky because he cant work during the investigation by Klaviers orders. Yknow what, buddy? Tough. Get a better hairdo with all this time off. Relax.

Lammy is missing, oh no, this was a fun case. Wait, we have to find her? Laaaame. Okay fine.

We go hunting for the blind singer, and find her in a guitar case, unconscious. We save her life and get her to the hospital. According to her, someone taller than her struck her in the forehead and she ran away, taking advantage of the dark stage to hide in the guitar case. Not too bright, as it actually closed and she almost died, but thats how these things are sometimes.

We show her the Cocoon and talk to her about it - Lamiroir is convinced that she was marked for transporting/smuggling them and thats why Mr LeTouse was assigned to her.

We use the fact that we saved Lamiroirs life to our advantage, making her come translate at the Detention Center with Machi. In true Speed Racer fashion, we find that the Cocoons are part of a cure for Incuritis. You know, the inflammation of the incurable disease. Kinda like Sandoland? Anyway, Borginia does not allow the cocoons out of the country on pain of death.

Daryan bursts in and interrupts our conversation, hauling Machi away and claiming he has a call from the Borginian embassy. Suspich!

We return to court next time! Stay tuned!

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SeabassDebeste
09/06/20 8:58:35 PM
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finally!
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Llarian
09/11/20 5:17:21 PM
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Case 4-3 - Turnabout Serenade

Thanks for your patience, yall. This game its so unfortunate. We return to the courtroom, where Lamiroir must help Machi testify to his own innocence. We find that he knows some English, which is quite the turnaround from the no English alibi we had going earlier. Since he could understand the lyrics, we ask where he learned them - Lamiroir insists that she told him. Shes obviously trying to protect him.

Finally, the translating thing is happening as it should, theres a brief pause and then Lamiroir helps Machi testify. I dont have to wait for 4 pages of Wingdings. We realize that Lamiroir needs to testify again.

Machi refuses to testify when we ask him about the cocoon. He does say that LeTouse was on the ground when he found him, and that when others/we approached, Machi had in fact escaped through the air vent, which covers the entire ground between the dressing rooms and the stage above.

Were getting nowhere, so the judge calls a 5-minute recess.

Dontcha wish when life was all evil twins and snowmobile tracks? I know I do.

See yall before too long, I hope. Thanks for continuing to follow along with me on this little trainwreck we like to call AA4.

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SeabassDebeste
09/11/20 5:18:30 PM
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Llarian posted...
This game its so unfortunate.

yup!
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Leonhart4
09/11/20 6:03:19 PM
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09/11/20 6:06:50 PM
#264:


yeah, it is indeed the worst
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Llarian
09/12/20 6:09:35 PM
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Case 4-3 - Turnabout Serenade

We return and start talking about what Lamiroir actually heard - when Daryan was talking, he said press the switch now. Luckily we have a Remote Trigger/switch in the Court Record, and we explain its connection to the Igniter to the court. Theres some nonsense about second and third acts, but thats quickly cleared up.

The killer wasnt exactly following the lyrics, we suspect they intentionally swapped a couple of the steps but overall it was close enough. We come to the conclusion that Lamiroir was not by the tiny window, but somewhere else during the shooting.

She was in THE AIR VENT we talked about yesterday. How convenient. How quaint. She was calling it a window because ESL. Lamiroir points out that was where she was, but she was moving quickly and there was no time to report what she had experienced as the show must go on. She makes a big show of being sworn to secrecy, but we cut right through to sorting out how the transported man illusion [ extra credit to whoever gets that ref ] illusion happened.

I love that Klavier has a dissonant guitar chord play every time hes annoyed or foiled in these courtroom scenes. Its interesting to see him swing between a smug Herr Forehead line and holding his own head in his hands.

Apparently Klavier is a stickler for live performance, so a body double was used at the beginning and Lamiroir had to sing live the entire time. The evidence is on the Video Tape as we hear her hesitation upon hearing the gunshots and dropping her Brooch through the air vent. She sings a word only once when she is supposed to have sung it twice.

Were going to call in Daryan Crescend and put him on the stand next. Stay tuned!

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Llarian
09/13/20 10:51:37 PM
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Case 4-3 - Turnabout Serenade

Daryan is here, and hes mightily cranky about it. We point out that the firecrackers found under the couch may have served as the gunshots from some point in the evening. Daryan insists that we prove the shots went off during the second set.

Oh fine, so it wanted me to present the Mixing Board instead of the Video Tape. Since they both have the same information re: Lamiroirs imperfect performance the game does have some either/or moments but when multiple pieces of evidence point to the Exact Same Point, Id like to be able to present ANY of them instead of being badgered into a specific one.

I swear, if I have to watch the 3D animation that we spent all our budget on ONE MORE TIME, Ill eat my scarf.

Daryans ridiculous pompadour flopping around everywhere isnt lending this any gravitas.

Seor Pompadour claims not to have known LeTouse in his further testimony, trying to gut the charge of its motive. We present the weird Replica egg looking thing stamped Sample. Apparently, in addition to being the key ingredient in a cure for the dim-witted disease Incuritis... the cocoon can be used to make a deadly poison! This is the reason they are strictly banned from being exported out of Borginia, and tracked closely by Interpol. Their sale can fetch a pretty penny on the black market.

Daryan will testify regarding the cocoon and smuggling next time. See you then!

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LeonhartFour
09/13/20 10:55:31 PM
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Llarian posted...
I swear, if I have to watch the 3D animation that we spent all our budget on ONE MORE TIME, Ill eat my scarf.

get that scarf ready

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colliding
09/13/20 11:05:25 PM
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god just reading the summary is painful
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Llarian
09/14/20 11:44:30 PM
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Case 4-3 - Turnabout Serenade

Ugh, Daryan points out that the cocoons on the black market isnt profitable anymore. I was so sure that anymore would be the question asked when I pressed him, but Apollos a box of rocks and so am I for playing this game. I guess he could be speaking generally, but it still sounds like a statement made by someone with inside knowledge.

We accuse him of smuggling. He continues to protest that Borginia is so strict and it would be more trouble than its worth. We present the newspaper article showing that the Chief Justices son is afflicted with Incuritis and would likely pay up to anyone providing a cure - bringing business safely close to home.

Apparently the guitar given to Klavier by Lamiroir was transported using special conveyance for evidence only open to Klavier as a prosecutor, so it was used as the mule. Once it became clear that the stash couldnt be recovered, it had to be burned.

Then theres the whole rigamarole with Machi pressing the button while playing the piano. First of all, it would have been peak Ace Attorney, since we found the Remote Switch in the piano, to have had it go off due to pressure from the strings while Machi was playing it. But no, instead we gotta fiddle with the Mixer again and isolate the part that he was playing, have an entire TED Talk about whether or not he could play what he was playing with one hand, while the other was supposedly igniting the guitar remotely, etc. etc.

And we definitely watched the 3D sequence, and parts of it, more times than I can count. Im fresh outta scarves, Ill have to go buy some before the first cold snap arrives.

We call Machi to the stand to testify against Daryan, because its in his best interest as a Borginian citizen.

The thing that frustrated me was that Machis playing wasnt very different to the untrained ear, and since weve already seen the song split up before, it was annoying that his one-handed playing wasnt quite lined up with when we heard the gunshot earlier. Also why did I have to point out that Machi was the accomplice. It was all so contrived.

Wouldnt it make more sense in Japanifornia for us to extradite Machi for his crime? To be perfectly frank, I want someone to suffer for how stupid this case was. I dont care who.

Fun fact: the symbol on the front of Lamiroirs face covering looks like the Japanese hiragana character ra, which would be the start of her name in Japanese. Ramiroa is written using katakana characters, however.

Wow, last case starts next time guys. Thanks for reading along!

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MrSmartGuy
09/15/20 12:15:15 AM
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Didn't want to say this before you played it, to try and keep you from developing preconceptions about it beforehand.

........ but now that you're through it, congrats on finally getting through the worst case in the entire series!

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LeonhartFour
09/15/20 12:17:19 AM
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4-3 is also one of the longest non-epic cases, which is part of what makes it so rough. It just goes on and on and on

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swirIdude
09/15/20 1:24:40 PM
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Imagine coming up with a case this bad and saying "this sounds great, let's make it even longer."

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SeabassDebeste
09/15/20 1:27:37 PM
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i think daryan himself is actually pretty enjoyable on the stand, but that cross-examination is SO unfun. i think i wound up looking up what to do and not regretting it at all.
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Llarian
09/18/20 9:57:21 PM
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Case 4-4 - Turnabout Succession

Characters Ive met:
Vera Misham - daughter of artist mentioned below, held in Detention Center
Drew Misham [mentioned] - artist

Phoenix sells us down the river by making us the lawyer for a test of the Jurist System, a system that legal is considering changing to in the future. Trucy gives us a ticket to see Troupe Gramarye at Sunshine Coliseum, where we had so much fun with the Gavinners last time. Phoenix gives us the Gramarye Envelope to open at the appropriate time.

We try talking to Vera at the Detention Center, but dont get very far with her aside from receiving her business card.

We proceed to Drew Studio and meet Det. Skye there. Unusually, on the night of the murder, Drew had been entertaining a reporter for an interview. He fell ill and died after receiving his cup of coffee from Vera. I sprayed the whole room with a test for atroquinine. Idk, the cup was glowing but only on the lip, not inside the cup.

We also went to the Sunshine Coliseum and spoke to Valant Gramarye again briefly. I showed him the Gramarye Envelope, he identified the signature on the back as that of Zak Gramarye, who was Trucys biological father.

I am reluctant to keep whining, but this is so tedious. If they had taken two seconds at the beginning to endear us to the characters or given us something special here, we wouldnt be having this issue. Its like Ace Attorney By Numbers at this point.

Probably lots more to do for investigating. See yall next time.

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colliding
09/18/20 10:34:36 PM
#275:


I kind of liked Vera - as far as defendants go she's pretty easily the best in AJ, aside from Hobonix I guess. I also felt bad for her and Drew.

That's about all I have positive to say about 4-4!
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LeonhartFour
09/18/20 10:38:45 PM
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Llarian
09/23/20 10:41:00 PM
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Case 4-4 - Turnabout Succession

Characters Ive met:
Spark Brushel - journalist ?

We poke around with Det. Skye and she gives us the suspicious reporters business card so we can continue figuring out who knows what about this case. We talk to journalist Spark Brushel at the Detention Center. Vera has completely clammed up in his presence [who wouldnt? The guy is totally out there].

Valant Gramarye talks to us at the Sunshine Coliseum, telling us that Zak Gramarye is legally dead, now that 7 years has passed. Hes annoyed about a journalist who has been bothering him for an interview. We ask if it is Brushel, and Valant rips up his business card. Okay then. Dont like that guy.

Theres a Red Envelope in the desk that contained the little framed bit of poison. After some cajoling, we convince Det. Skye to let us examine its contents using her X-Ray Analyzer. Its a super old letter about a large payment transfer. We find out Drew is a forger of paintings - he paints them just like the original to be sold as part of a scam. This is way more difficult to do than it sounds here - especially since actual paintings are x-rayed to determine their authenticity. Older paintings often display studies or earlier works underneath the top layer painting. Canvases, as with other art supplies, do not come cheap, and if the existing painting did not sell for any reason, it was common practice to paint over them. NWI Times states, Picasso's "Old Guitarist" hides a past life of a former painting. The Art Institute of Chicago x-rayed the painting to reveal the menagerie image underneath of a woman, child and animals.

We talk to Det. Skye about the paintings more and get to use her X-Ray Analyzer to see the initial sketches under all 3 paintings - oddly enough, they turn out to be representative of 4-1 through 4-3!! Who is Drew Misham to Apollo?

Find out next time!

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NFUN
09/23/20 10:44:59 PM
#278:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ExdtJJs11E

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PrinceOfKoopas
09/23/20 11:04:37 PM
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NFUN posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ExdtJJs11E
wtf I didn't expect this music to transport my mind back to 4-4 just like that.

Powerful stuff.

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colliding
09/24/20 8:43:25 AM
#280:


oh ya go my brushel

just kidding, he's terrible and I hate him
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Leonhart4
09/24/20 9:00:31 AM
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SeabassDebeste
09/24/20 9:55:27 AM
#282:


oh hey there is progress

i really do think AAI1 is a step above this, even if it's not on the tier of 1 or 3!

4-4 has some really good stuff in it (mixed in with the awful) - stick with it plsss
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NFUN
09/24/20 11:43:26 AM
#283:


Brushel is great, somehow

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colliding
09/24/20 6:37:17 PM
#284:


aghast and agog at the brushel love

truly the most unpleasant AA character

also yes please keep playing. you only got one more case and then you can get back to better games (maybe skip AAI though)
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Leonhart4
09/24/20 7:33:17 PM
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greengravy294
09/24/20 7:37:08 PM
#286:


Llarian I think romaine lettouse is the best pw pun sis

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Llarian
09/26/20 8:52:08 PM
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Case 4-4 - Turnabout Succession

I have to say, yall are the most supportive bunch Ive ever met. Thanks in advance for that.

This case has been plugging along fairly easily. I have definitely looked up the first Perceive spot in this case and was glad I did [sweat during this specific phrase in the right armpit, really?].

Brushel testifies that he saw Drew Misham drink the coffee and fall over dead immediately. He is incorrect, as the poison is slow-acting - meaning that if the poison was on the mug, he would have had time to finish the cup before keeling over. He claims that he came early by 15 minutes and entered without knocking, he saw Misham stuffing a yellow envelope, putting a stamp on it, and mailing it. Well - we only have a Red Envelope. Said yellow envelope if mailed is long gone.

Det. Skye helps us analyze the contents of the Red Envelope further, uncovering poisonous residue from an included stamp. It is suspected that Drew Misham had no stamps and took the poisoned stamp out of its mini picture frame on his desk and licked it to use on the yellow envelope. But why would he do that, if he had an inkling that it might be poisonous?

We suspect the red envelope and its promised $100,000 payment is not for a forged painting, but instead for forged evidence. Perhaps Drew Misham was not the forger, but someone else.

We realize the forger is likely Vera, which would explain why Drew wouldnt have had any reason to suspect the stamp and used it. It would also explain why there was poisonous residue only on the lip of the coffee mug and not in the coffee - it was remaining from licking the stamp and came from contact with Drews tongue, not from the coffee itself.

Poor Vera takes the stand and keeps staring at Klavier with an unsettled look on her face. o_o

She testifies to having sold her first painting at 12 and also to forging other items that her father then sold, e.g. signatures, handwriting, fingerprints, etc. Drew conducted all transactions and posed as the forger, while Vera completed the actual engineering and the two of them stayed holed up in their home/studio, away from prying eyes.

Vera framed the stamp because she liked the design, a commemorative portrait of her favorite magicians - the Gramarye Troupe. She had no idea that it was poisoned.

Klavier starts wigging out and asks about a diary entry in a book with a silk hat on the back cover. Vera confirms that yes, in fact, she had been asked to forge a diary entry in such a book. He mentions that Phoenix Wright hasnt told us everything about that case 7 years ago that led to his fate. He asks Vera who the client was, who asked her to create the diary entry. She seizes up, and manages to choke out, ...the...De...vil before collapsing to the floor.

It turns out that Vera was poisoned with atroquinine, the same poison used on the stamp, but a smaller amount than the lethal dose. Shes unconscious.

I am so tired of Klaviers guitar riff. It was fun the first few times, but this case seems to move at a good pace - then I have to wait the 8 seconds for him to air guitar. Again. And again. And again. It was nice seeing him sweat and freak out at the end - I wonder what happened?

Looks like were going to have to go back 7 years to the old case to get some more info! See you then!

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Leonhart4
09/26/20 9:44:53 PM
#288:


Yeah, literally everyone has to look up the solution to that Perceive. You are not alone.

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MrSmartGuy
09/26/20 11:20:09 PM
#289:


Yes,that is the particular Perceive I alluded to when I said one is "particularly awful".

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Llarian
09/28/20 12:43:13 AM
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Case 4-4 - Turnabout Succession

Characters Ive met:
Magnifi Gramarye - aged and ailing patriarch of the Gramarye Troupe, given 3 mos. left to live
Shadi Enigmar - aka Zak Gramarye, famed magician of the Gramarye Troupe
Valant Gramarye - famed magician of the Gramarye Troupe
Drew Misham - painter and forger
Phoenix Wright - names usually on the tin
Klavier Gavin - a young prosecutor and rockstar
Dick Gumshoe - MY FAVE. This practically saved the game for me.

Oh, how Ive missed a relatively normal case. This wasnt exactly open and shut, and I had to look for hints at certain points, but it was pretty good.

Zak Gramarye is accused of killing his mentor and leader of the Gramarye Troupe, Magnifi Gramarye. Phoenix Wright is on the hook to clear the guys name, and hes up against a young hotshot prosecutor named Klavier Gavin [short hair = passage of time].

Magnifi wrote letters to each of his disciples, asking Zak and Valant to come at different times in the same night and end his life using the single-shot pistols they use for one of their acts. Magnifi has grown tired of living, and his terminal diagnosis wasnt helping at all.

Zak and Valant both testify that they shot a nearby stuffed toy, rather than kill their beloved mentor, and blame the crime on each other. Ballistics point to Valant being the killer, but then Klavier pulls a fast one saying the ballistics were actually inconclusive. We go on a wild goose chase to find that not only did Valant kill Magnifi, but he used a nearby insulin syringe to add more liquid to Magnifis IV drip to obscure the real time of death!

Klavier produces a diary [upon examination, it does have a silk hat on the back cover] that he says is written by Magnifi. A page is ripped out and missing, and Phoenix Wright produces it. A very young Trucy had given it to him prior to this case and he had accepted it in the lobby without thinking.

Klavier calls Drew Misham to the stand, who confirms that the entire diary is his own forging work, and although he does not know who his client is, the fact remains that Phoenix Wright is producing forged evidence in a courtroom.

The Judge, never one to rub more than two brain cells together, is shocked at Phoenixs affront to justice. He must now declare a verdict, and it does not look favorable for Shadi Enigmar/Zak Gramarye. But true to the magicians word, it will be impossible to declare a verdict, and Zak Gramarye disappears, never to be seen or heard from again.

Klaviers theme is that song from the other case. Dont think for a minute that I didnt notice it, even hidden in a nice relaxing background arrangement as he spoke. I was forced to watch that animation 47 times. Its a part of me now.

Seeing young Valant was very interesting - the lack of mustache was a distinct improvement, and his shocked sprites were a welcome respite from Brushels gruesome Pink Tie Tangle.

Were back to reality [oh! There goes gravity!] next time in Ace Attorney, The Last Case of Apollo Justice: Hallelujah.

See you then!

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Leonhart4
09/28/20 1:28:10 AM
#291:


Ugh the flashback case is so bad

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SeabassDebeste
09/28/20 10:05:26 AM
#292:


Llarian posted...
Were back to reality [oh! There goes gravity!] next time in Ace Attorney,

will the real slim shadi please stand up

anyway, 4-0's ending is terrible and some of the stuff about it feels off, but i actually quite enjoy the (awful) story of the magnifi brothers otherwise

the next investigation segment is easily my favorite part of the game, so hopefully you enjoy.
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Llarian
10/02/20 12:04:23 PM
#293:


fdasfjkl;a I finished this game on Monday but took time to percolate.

Case 4-4 - Turnabout Succession

Characters Ive met:
Thalassa Gramarye - only daughter of Magnifi Gramarye, wife of Zak, and mother of both Apollo Justice and Trucy Wright

Hoo boy. I loved the MASON system of investigation. That almost single handedly saved the game for me, and certainly gave me renewed energy towards finishing it. For those of you who dont know me, I love all manner of productivity strategies, and to-do lists are one of my faves. This was so fun, investigating each chapter of both past and present, getting those satisfying glowing check marks, and continuing to break Psyche Locks left and right. It was like we had the old operations back together again.

Many stunning revelations were uncovered throughout this process, which you trace through as Phoenix Wright, both past and present. Trucy is your adopted daughter by virtue of being an orphan of that case you bungled by presenting forged evidence that you didnt know was forged at the time. With her father and mother both having disappeared, you feel a sense of responsibility towards her. You first see Thalassa Gramarye in a photo in Trucys locket. Shes stunningly beautiful.

Summary:
You talk to Officer/Bailiff Meekins who explains that Zak Gramarye truly disappeared that fateful day! It turns out the precocious Trucy was covering for her father with the help of The Amazing Mr Hat - who upon further inspection is the perfect stand-in for someone of Zaks stature.

Zak used poker to select his lawyer - Kristoph clearly didnt measure up. He also couldnt be declared guilty in court as he intended to pass the rights to his daughter Trucy - transferring to her the rights to all his secrets of performance and magic.

We visit Kristoph in a very plush-looking solitary confinement. He is doing his nails with a familiar-looking nail polish bottle, and there is a Yellow Envelope on a table in the cell. When Kristoph is called away, we sneak in and procure said Yellow Envelope.

You talk to both Drew and Vera, verifying that they made the Magnifi diary page for a client who has the Devils face near him. This client also gave Vera a gift of nail polish as a good luck charm.

We grill Valant about the magic trick gone wrong resulting in Thalassa Gramaryes death. They had accidentally killed her during practice, Magnifi covered it all up - but her being his only daughter as well as Zaks wife, they owed him. Trucy didnt know. Valant recalls that Brushel was hanging around and became friends with Zak, but Valant himself could never trust the guy.

We return to the Drew Studio in the present day, and talk to Brushel. We find out that Valant is out of luck due to the transferal of rights to his daughter, Trucy. We also find out that there was something of a love triangle between the Gramaryes - Zak, Thalassa, and Valant. Thalassa had been married before to another performer, but he died a year into their marriage, after giving birth to a child, before Trucy. Brushel shares a photo of Thalassa with you - note her bracelets.

You meet once more at the Borscht Club and talk to Zak Gramarye. It turns out that Apollo and Trucy are half-siblings. Magnifi, Thalassa, Apollo and Trucy all have the gift. The bracelets help focus it as a tool to identify tension in a person and determine if they are lying. Trucy is just super amazing and doesnt need a bracelet to do it >_> Zak is waiting for his legal death, and wont be meeting with his daughter again. Zak writes and signs a Confession for you to use later.

You show this Confession to Valant and he immediately recognizes it as a lie. Although he had not killed Magnifi, the man had killed himself and Valant was too tempted to use the circumstances to frame Zak. Valant manipulated the IV bag to this end.

Kristoph catches you with the Yellow Envelope and you return it to him - next the case. We use a combination of the Yellow Envelope and Red Envelope to pin the killing on Kristoph. It didnt matter that you returned the Yellow Envelope to Kristoph in his cell, because that derpy pin on Phoenixs slouchy PaPa hat is actually a camera. He filmed and faithfully recreated the Yellow Envelope to be used in this case.

The jurists take their turn to determine the outcome of the case. You play as jurist no. 6, who has a little trouble choosing - I chose Not Guilty. As her arm reaches out to touch the button, you see that its Lamiroir and a familiar looking bracelet. Thalassa got a pretty sweet performance deal out of it, travelling the world as Lamiroir.

Commentary:
Nice little bit of teamwork here between Klavier and Apollo, slightly reminiscent of Phoenix and Miles in the original trilogy [kinda like LaCroix flavor - it aint gonna be the fruit itself, but you can at least tell what fruit its trying to be]. Kristoph loses it in spectacular fashion and the day is saved.

After all the emphasis this franchise has historically placed on powder burns, that we claim ballistics had no idea that Magnifi killed himself? Tell me if Im missing something >_> That stood out and annoyed me. No ones arms [aside from Inspector Gadget, or possibly Mr Fantastic, both in an oddly dark timeline] are long enough to make a difference here.

A mother finding out she has two kids after recovering her memory? Wild horses couldnt, yall. That part of the end was totally unrealistic.

Honestly, this whole time I was tired of Trucy, I had dismissed Zak/Shadi as some grifter who met an untimely end in a drafty basement, and Apollo as some Gary Stu with odd taste in jewelry. Now that its all tied together, it does lend it some credibility and I have to say, I see them all in a different light now. It doesnt make the game any better, and Im not sure they could have been more hamfisted with the way those assorted plot points were thrown together - but it does improve the overall feeling I have about the game.

Ranking this games cases by themselves, best to worst [because, lets be real, theres no way this compares to the original trilogy]:
4-4 Turnabout Succession
4-2 Turnabout Corner
4-1 Turnabout Trump
4-3 Turnabout Serenade

Thanks for reading, yall. What should I play next? Investigations? Should I bother with Dual Destinies?

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Leonhart4
10/02/20 12:12:46 PM
#294:


4-2 > 4-1 is not a take I've seen much

And Dual Destinies is fantastic so play it

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Lolo_Guru
10/02/20 12:14:59 PM
#295:


Dual Destinies is good.
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NFUN
10/02/20 12:21:28 PM
#296:


https://imgur.com/a/8QVtO

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Leonhart4
10/02/20 12:22:46 PM
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also you can play Investigations next if you want but you can go straight to DD and lose nothing

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SeabassDebeste
10/02/20 12:28:24 PM
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Llarian posted...
Hoo boy. I loved the MASON system of investigation. That almost single handedly saved the game for me, and certainly gave me renewed energy towards finishing it. For those of you who dont know me, I love all manner of productivity strategies, and to-do lists are one of my faves. This was so fun, investigating each chapter of both past and present, getting those satisfying glowing check marks, and continuing to break Psyche Locks left and right. It was like we had the old operations back together again.

yes! glad you liked it as much as i did.

also i don't think i see anyone talk about it, but i believe this segment also has AA1's jail music which is the absolute best.

i think investigations is definitely worth it, especially if you intend to play AAI2 (requires an emulator). DD is better but if you don't want to leave the DS behind just yet...
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Cybat
10/02/20 3:47:08 PM
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NFUN posted...
https://imgur.com/a/8QVtO

Yes.

This is the most important thing to come out of AA4.

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colliding
10/02/20 3:54:43 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
4-2 > 4-1 is not a take I've seen much

And Dual Destinies is fantastic so play it

finally someone agrees with me

edit: also I would go straight to DD. AAI is better than AJ, but it can be extremely dry and long-winded.
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