Current Events > ITT: I watch Red Dwarf and maybe other UK shows

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Almost through season five. I heard someone say in the last topic that the last couple seasons suck (?), but I'mma soldier on. I also wish they'd bring back Holly, a bundle of hilarity, instead of FemHolly, a bundle of anti-hilarity...but it'd be a sausagefest otherwise, I suppose.



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Where is TC watching all this stuff

I love Red Dwarf.

I was actually singing this in the shower earlier today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3t3IKlXqFU

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Shotgunnova posted...

I also wish they'd bring back Holly, a bundle of hilarity, instead of FemHolly, a bundle of anti-hilarity

Seconded

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Watch the pilot of the American Red Dwarf, just for lulz.

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Shotgunnova posted...

I heard someone say in the last topic that the last couple seasons suck (?)

Season 10 was great. 11 was good from what I recall. I'm not sure if I've seen 12 yet.

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Good show. I like the black cat guy.

omg yes, red dwarf is awesome!
i haven't seen season 12 yet

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Whoa, I didn't know there were twelve seasons, including some currently (?) being aired. I wonder how the new ones hold up compared to the old ones.

Keith_Valentine posted...

Good show. I like the black cat guy.

Yeah, he gets some good lines.

Foppe posted...

Watch the pilot of the American Red Dwarf, just for lulz.

Didn't know there was one. It's gotta be better than the "American Fawlty Towers," at least.

Wii_Shaker posted...

I was actually singing this in the shower earlier today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3t3IKlXqFU

Classic. I forget why they were doing that, though (watched it last month and already forgot).

MachineJaipur posted...

Where is TC watching all this stuff

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The evil versions of the crew in S5E5 were great. It's continuously amazing to me how every alternate version of Rimmer is way more enjoyable somehow.



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Shotgunnova posted...

It's continuously amazing to me how every alternate version of Rimmer is way more enjoyable somehow.

that's kind of the point

also FemHolly is great, what are you smoking? "White Hole" is one of their best episodes and she really shines
I LOVE the Holly/Toaster pairing. That scene couldn't go on long enough for me

"This is going to be about waffles, isn't it..."

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FemHolly is okay, but the original was better. I also miss how Holly would introduce episodes with a joke like the first couple seasons.

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Shotgunnova posted...

I also miss how Holly would introduce episodes with a joke like the first couple seasons.

yeah, that was great

but still, I find both Hollies have their strong points. It's hard to say who I like more

"I know what I did wrong last time. It's a mistake any deranged half-witted computer could have made."

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"RUDE ALERT! RUDE ALERT! An explosion has knocked out my voice recognition unicycle! ABANDON SHOP! This is not a daffodil! Repeat: THIS IS NOT A DAFFODIL!!!"

"..well, Holly's unaffected."

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"This is not a drill! This is a drill:"

*drilling sounds*

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Watch Not Going Out.

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Series 8 is one of the hands down funniest series in the entirety of Red Dwarf, but the plot and character reset buttons they hit are irritating. But still...sit back and laugh your ass off.

I might have to go rewatch now...

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The despair squid episode was pretty good, from "Dwayne Dibley" having buck teeth, to Rimmer wearing "eau de yak urine," to the VR guy making fun of everyone for playing the Red Dwarf game incorrectly, to everyone trying to commit suicide with a gun's only bullet.



Okay, onto season six.

HylianFox posted...

"RUDE ALERT! RUDE ALERT! An explosion has knocked out my voice recognition unicycle! ABANDON SHOP! This is not a daffodil! Repeat: THIS IS NOT A DAFFODIL!!!"

"..well, Holly's unaffected."

That part was pretty good. I don't think we've had many Holly-centric episodes since the M/F switch, though, so the ol' computer has felt like a third wheel in a lot of situations lately. Maybe that'll change coming up.

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Seasons 6 was one of my favorites.

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Shotgunnova posted...

Maybe that'll change coming up.

Sadly, no

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"The cat's invited me to the weekly craps game tonight"
"He's gonna be the dice!"

lmao



HylianFox posted...

Sadly, no

Smeggin' 'ell.

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Shotgunnova posted...

Smeggin' 'ell.

I don't want to spoil too much, ya know?

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The creepy gestalt dude who made weird food for everyone was great. Telepathic wine you will into your mouth sounds great.



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Diiiibbbleeyyyyyyyyy!!!



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Shotgunnova posted...

Diiiibbbleeyyyyyyyyy!!!

THE DUKE OF DORK

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Cat: All in all, a 100% successful trip!
Kryten: But, sir, we lost Mr. Rimmer!
Cat: ...All in all, a 100% successful trip!

I admit, the prospect of Rimmer spending 557 years imprisoned with nothing but a blanket and Baoding balls is funny.

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Shotgunnova posted...

I admit, the prospect of Rimmer spending 557 years imprisoned with nothing but a blanket and Baoding balls is funny.

"Custer! Derek Custer!
Kit!
Titan!"

"There isn't a prison built that can hold Derek Custer!"

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Rimmer: That's it, we're going to red alert!
Kryten: Are you sure, sir? That would mean changing the bulb.

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008Zulu posted...

Rimmer: That's it, we're going to red alert!
Kryten: Are you sure, sir? That would mean changing the bulb.

hands down the best bit in the entire series
the laughter goes on for like three minutes (and it's not canned)

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HylianFox posted...

the laughter goes on for like three minutes (and it's not canned)

The DVDs had the BTS footage of the shows being made, outtakes and all that. One of the snippets was (I think) the gag about Lister putting on the shapeshifting under wear, Kryten trying to help him, and Rimmer commenting about him boning anything. The audienced laughed for about 10 minutes at that, the actors just had to wait for them to stop.

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oh yeah, the shrinking boxers!
you can't even hear the dialog over the audience laughing

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Old Rimmer: Look, you have to understand: we travelled back and forth throughout the whole of history. And, naturally, we want to sample the best of everything. It's just a bit unfortunate that the best things tend to be in possession of those were judged to be a bit dodgy.
Kryten: Hermann Goering is a "bit dodgy"!?



Looks like this season ends on a "cliffhanger".

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The Hitlers were such a delight! Much nicer guy in person.

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Season 6 is just downright hilarious and very quotable. The space corps directives were among my favorites, and blue alert was amazing.

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Airhammy posted...

Season 6 is just downright hilarious and very quotable. The space corps directives were among my favorites, and blue alert was amazing.

'Gunmen of the Apocalypse' is inspired

They call me The Kid... THE RIVIERA KID!
*guitar riff*

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Such a great show

There's also two episodes that were written and storyboarded but never filmed:

They got Chris Barrie to read it out while doing voices for everyone:

Body Snatcher: Season 1. Not made because they used the extra week to reshoot 2/3rds of the pilot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YesvsRnF4As

Identity Within: Season 7. Not made because they massively overspent on the JFK episode and had no budget left. made Duct Soup as a bottleneck episode instead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6zV699kIkY

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Gunmen of the Apocalypse seemed like the weakest episode of the season, although it did have some good lines. I think one was like, "we're gonna mince you so small, the worms won't even have to chew!"

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Shotgunnova posted...

Gunmen of the Apocalypse seemed like the weakest episode of the season, although it did have some good lines. I think one was like, "we're gonna mince you so small, the worms won't even have to chew!"

"You can't frighten me. I'm a coward! I'm always scared!"

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HylianFox posted...

oh yeah, the shrinking boxers!
you can't even hear the dialog over the audience laughing

Fun fact about that

They actually had to edit it down because the audience wouldn't stop laughing.

"Well I cant say I'm totally shocked, youd bonk anything wouldn't you Lister?" Was supposed to be the punchline but audience laughed so hard for about 30 seconds that Barrie had to just stand there until he was half shouting his lines.

Craig Charles was flopping around on the floor for ages just waiting for the crowd to stop laughing

Shotgunnova posted...

Gunmen of the Apocalypse seemed like the weakest episode of the season, although it did have some good lines. I think one was like, "we're gonna mince you so small, the worms won't even have to chew!"

It won an Emmy. Something very few British shows have done, let alone low budget sci-fi

Remember this was filmed in England (Kent actually which is hilarious) which I think is why people respect it so much. It's one thing to say "Let's do cowboy episode" when you live in Texas and have 7 figure budgets, it's another when you live in Manchester England and are pulling props from your pockets.

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All I can say is having a live audience really adds to any show

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That being said Season 7 is also very good, but you'll notice a big change...

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Airhammy posted...

That being said Season 7 is also very good,

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

There's a huge drop in quality in writing without Rob Grant and a huge drop in quality of performance without a live audience.

Plus

Red Dwarf without Rimmer is like CatDog without the Cat half.

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Lister: Dallas? Wasn't the place where that American king got assassinated?
Rimmer: JFK.
Lister: No, it was John something, not Jeff K.
Rimmer: J - F - K! Not "Jeff K.," ya gimboid. Like the airport! I did a paper on him in school.
Lister: I wonder why anyone would want to name their kid after an airport.

Cat: This chicken's good!
Lister: Yeah, yeah, pretty good.
Kryten: That's not chicken, sirs.
Cat: Oh? What is it?
Kryten: It's that man we found.
Lister: What?
Kryten: It seemed like such a waste to just leave him lying there when he barbecues so beautifully.
Rimmer: (evil giggling)

They even got JFK to be the second gunman on the grassy knoll in order to protect his legacy. Pure genius.



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When Kryten mentions the Texas Book Depository then realizes where they are, that reaction floors me every time.

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Shotgunnova posted...

Cat: This chicken's good!
Lister: Yeah, yeah, pretty good.
Kryten: That's not chicken, sirs.
Cat: Oh? What is it?
Kryten: It's that man we found.
Lister: What?
Kryten: It seemed like such a waste to just leave him lying there when he barbecues so beautifully.
Rimmer: (evil giggling)

Fun fact about that scene/episode

When they made it and sent season 7 to the American censors they said "You might want to take a closer look at this JFK episode because we don't want to accidentally say anything culturally offensive to Americans."

And they got a response from the FFC or whoever it was in charge at the time saying "Yeah we can't air one scene."

And they were shocked that it turned out to be that one you quoted.

Murdering the Oswold and the President is fine, as is turning the assassination attempt into a farce but when it aired in the US they cut that scene out because "Cannibalism is just too offensive for the American people" lol

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Shotgunnova posted...

Didn't know there was one. It's gotta be better than the "American Fawlty Towers," at least.

Now, watch German Monty Python.

Shotgunnova posted...

Foppe posted...

Watch the pilot of the American Red Dwarf, just for lulz.

Didn't know there was one. It's gotta be better than the "American Fawlty Towers," at least.

Actually there's 2 American Red Dwarf pilots

Although the second one is rarely talked about because it's pretty much just an extended commercial due to having the budget of a packed lunch.

Jadiza Dax plays the Cat in the second one lol.


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Maze_ posted...

Fun fact about that scene/episode

When they made it and sent season 7 to the American censors they said "You might want to take a closer look at this JFK episode because we don't want to accidentally say anything culturally offensive to Americans."

And they got a response from the FFC or whoever it was in charge at the time saying "Yeah we can't air one scene."

And they were shocked that it turned out to be that one you quoted.

Murdering the Oswold and the President is fine, as is turning the assassination attempt into a farce but when it aired in the US they cut that scene out because "Cannibalism is just too offensive for the American people" lol

to be fair, that scene was really gross
I always felt that "Tikka To Ride" was one of their weakest episodes, it's really not funny at all

thankfully, Series 7 improves from there (although YMMV)

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HylianFox posted...

to be fair, that scene was really gross
I always felt that "Tikka To Ride" was one of their weakest episodes, it's really not funny at all

I think it's the most expensive one they shot out of the first 8 seasons so you're going to make the creators cry lol

I don't think cannibalism as a joke bothers people in the UK. I mean the IT Crowd did a whole episode about it that was literally making fun of a real case and no one cared.

I think Emohawk is the weakest episode. It's almost a clipshow. "Remember these funny gags, here they are again!"

HylianFox posted...

thankfully, Series 7 improves from there (although YMMV)

Gotta disagree.

No Rob Grant
No Live Audience
Duct Soup
Part Time Rimmer

Not counting Back to Earth and beyond. Season 7 is the weakest by far IMO. It's not "awful" or anything but it all lost a step and everyone seems to lack energy and passion

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