Poll of the Day > Trump says if ONLY 100,000 People DIE from COVID-19 then they did a GOOD JOB!!!

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mrduckbear
03/29/20 8:29:07 PM
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Do you think COVID-19 is worse than the common flu?


Donald Trump today at a heated rose garden conference said he would extend the social distancing guidelines till the end of April after reiterating he wants to re-open America by easter is now listening to doctors to keep social distancing in place.

He also said at the conference that if they can keep the deaths to 100,000 or below then they have done a "very good job" of this pandemic!! Trump now says they are being told that 2 million americans could die from the outbreak but says if they could keep it just 6 figures than what they did was "perfect"

This comes when just a couple weeks ago, he talked about how this was just a "flu" that was being sensationalized by the media and called the current deaths small compared to 27,000 died from the regular Flu last year!!

Mixed Messaging has been coming from the White House on whether calling this a true pandemic or a "hoax" created by liberal to make it worse than it is as americans are confused over what the White House is calling COVID-19..

At the same time, Trump boasted that his ratings of people watching his conferences was MORE than all of the networks original shows such as The Bachelor.

Do you think COVID-19 is worse than the common flu?

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Shadowbird_RH
03/29/20 8:33:04 PM
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Stupid motherfucker should have taken the out the impeachment trials offered him while he had the chance.

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ChaosAzeroth
03/29/20 9:00:50 PM
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It's worse than the flu, but we're stuck walking a thin line since people still need food/water/shelter. Ignoring the virus isn't good, but neither is having to worry about bills and resources.

The whole situation sucks. There's a lot more losing scenarios than winning ones....
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xjayguyx
03/30/20 12:04:19 AM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
Stupid motherfucker should have taken the out the impeachment trials offered him while he had the chance.

Looks at all the current Democrats.. ya no
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thekingoftown
03/30/20 11:22:20 AM
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His VP is a Democrat?

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adjl
03/30/20 11:27:11 AM
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zebatov
03/30/20 11:27:49 AM
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Of course its worse, but no it isnt worth that.

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Zeus
03/30/20 2:38:32 PM
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While every nation should expect a large number of casualties, somehow it feels like they're setting the bar a little low when it comes to an acceptable outcome... Sure, the US has a large population and the death toll might wind up in the 5 digits range, but even 70k or 80k is a staggeringly large number. Then again, we have Americans getting infected while throwing "Corona Virus Parties" so...

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Lokarin
03/30/20 2:58:29 PM
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Well, if you have a pop of, idk, 328 million (2018) and take the estimated mortality rate of 1%... that would be 3.2 million, right?

Cut that in 1/5 for the regular flu rates, would be about 650'000... and his goal is 1/6th of that.

...Well, his math at face value is correct, but it's not taking into account that it was wholly preventable.

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OhhhJa
03/30/20 3:05:17 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Well, if you have a pop of, idk, 328 million (2018) and take the estimated mortality rate of 1%... that would be 3.2 million, right?

Cut that in 1/5 for the regular flu rates, would be about 650'000... and his goal is 1/6th of that.

...Well, his math at face value is correct, but it's not taking into account that it was wholly preventable.
Bullshit. With how much travel there is between China and the US, there's no way it wasn't here immediately. Probably in November. I think it's even been confirmed at this point. With China attempting to cover it up, it could even be argued they used it as a bioweapon to spread it globally
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Zeus
03/30/20 3:49:55 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
With China attempting to cover it up, it could even be argued they used it as a bioweapon to spread it globally

I'm not following that argument at all. While you could argue negligence, carelessness, and ineptitude, there's nothing to suggest that China intentionally attempted to spread it. That's not even factoring in the reality that the CCP's negligence, carelessness, and/or sheer ineptitude allowed the C-Virus run rampant in its own country


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wolfy42
03/30/20 4:04:43 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Bullshit. With how much travel there is between China and the US, there's no way it wasn't here immediately. Probably in November. I think it's even been confirmed at this point. With China attempting to cover it up, it could even be argued they used it as a bioweapon to spread it globally


The speed at which it has expanded in NY for instance shows that it was not here for months already. The cases we initially saw, where almost definately the first cases in this country.

The current ratio of cases confirmed to deaths is more around 2%, but there are probably MANY cases that have not been confirmed (Even in NY). That being said, there is also currently no serious shortage of medical supplies/beds yet, which can drastically increase the number of deaths later on.

Italy though has 101k cases and 11k deaths, so slightly over a 10% death rate.

One would hope the US numbers are not going to be that high.

I would strongly suggest that a 1% death rate though would be ABSOUTELY FREAKING AMAZING) considering china had between a 4% and 5% death rate based on people who tested postive (even saying only half that had it were tested, that is still over a 2% death rate).

If there is no way to prevent at least 66% of US citizens from getting the virus, and we have even a 3% death rate (which could be way worse mind you), that is still 3% of 220million people, or about 7 million people that shoull die with those figures.

I would suggest that is pretty much a best case scenerio if the social distancing is taken as seriously here as it has been in Italy.

World wide, there are places that are going to dwarf us as far as death rates. India is an excellent example with 4x our population and extreme pop density. Along with the lack of medical resources, you could see a 13-18% death rate (Based on cases that need critical care here to prevent death). That would be insane amounts of death (seriously if it hit 20% of 1.2 billion that is 240 million just in India.)

Maybe something will be found to help fight the virus, or at least prevent it from hitting so hard etc in time. Social distancing is the key though cause other than that, we have absolutely no defense right now.

Now I'm not sure on my numbers exactly, the whole 13% needing medical help is really not nailed down for sure, but that could be looked at as a baseline % of deaths without outside resources (Ventilators, machines, hospital beds etc). The less people that need them at one time, the more people will live basically.

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DPsx7
03/30/20 4:44:31 PM
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Zeus posted...
While every nation should expect a large number of casualties, somehow it feels like they're setting the bar a little low when it comes to an acceptable outcome... Sure, the US has a large population and the death toll might wind up in the 5 digits range, but even 70k or 80k is a staggeringly large number. Then again, we have Americans getting infected while throwing "Corona Virus Parties" so...

No kidding. Under 'normal' conditions I'd say we'll never get close to that number in the US alone (has to be WW estimate). Don't forget the recovery rate is like 80-90%. The wildcards are the jerkasses having parties out of spite. Viruses can be treated. You can't fix stupid.

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adjl
03/30/20 5:21:24 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
Don't forget the recovery rate is like 80-90%. The wildcards are the jerkasses having parties out of spite.

I'm not sure why you seem to think idiots having parties have a lower recovery rate. You've said this sort of thing a lot, as though you believe that the virus will somehow figure out that they deserve to suffer for their recklessness and become more deadly. Realistically, where most of them are pretty young, they're actually going to be more likely to survive infection unscathed than the rest of the population will.

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DPsx7
03/30/20 5:36:39 PM
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adjl posted...
I'm not sure why you seem to think idiots having parties have a lower recovery rate. You've said this sort of thing a lot, as though you believe that the virus will somehow figure out that they deserve to suffer for their recklessness and become more deadly. Realistically, where most of them are pretty young, they're actually going to be more likely to survive infection unscathed than the rest of the population will.

I don't know how you arrived at that conclusion. The parties are just spreading it. All I'm saying about recovery is this isn't the doomsday the media is seeking.

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Blaqthourne
03/30/20 5:40:22 PM
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I don't know. If the experts are saying to expect 2,000,000 deaths and we do end up with 100,000, I'd tend to agree that keeping it to 5% of the projected deaths would be a good job, relatively speaking.
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Samon-urai
03/30/20 5:40:28 PM
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The WHO says: "People over the age of 70 are most at risk...

...and Trump is over 70 sooooo.....
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BlackScythe0
03/30/20 6:32:53 PM
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Blaqthourne posted...
I don't know. If the experts are saying to expect 2,000,000 deaths and we do end up with 100,000, I'd tend to agree that keeping it to 5% of the projected deaths would be a good job, relatively speaking.

If you look at it in a vacuum but we also know how much Trump tried to fight doing anything about it and only took steps well after he should have.
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Zareth
03/30/20 7:07:30 PM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
Stupid motherfucker should have taken the out the impeachment trials offered him while he had the chance.
You think Pence would be better? He'd just tell everyone to pray and it'd all work out for them.

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BlackScythe0
03/30/20 8:40:00 PM
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Zareth posted...
You think Pence would be better? He'd just tell everyone to pray and it'd all work out for them.
I don't believe he would have attempted to fight efforts to contain this virus the way Trump did.
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Korruptor
03/30/20 8:47:37 PM
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None of this would happen if Jesus was president.
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