Board 8 > Illuminati Mafia Topic 3 - The Land of The Freemasons

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ill start with who im not shoting and that is Tange

Worst

Gamble

Evar

Lol

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Mzero defends Tange saying I am town instead of Han. He also follows me in saying Han was town before the shot anyways (I felt Han was town also but in this re-read I see my town read on Han was hella flimsy because it was based on a single burst of posts). Mzero seems to be copying me with that post.

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The problem with 5tar is that he seems too informed. I initially day 1 said we should start with 5tar in an early post, but I quickly corrected it when I read some more from 5tar prior 1 to say strike that. Mostly because 5tar is saying a lot of things I myself think.

The question is... Is 5tar saying this because he has information I don't to get to the same place.

5tar and Mzero are unlikely to be scum teammates. Extremely unlikely.

So, the question becomes which one is more likely to be scum of the two.

And, it is funny because they have opposite situations. Mzero looks bad while 5tar looks too good.

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5tarscream posted...

Aecioo and scare would be my preferred lynches.

##vote:Aecioo

Which brings me to this post.

This is not long after Scare brings up that Tange slipped and confirmed me town.

It is a way to shade Scares position indirectly by saying the idea makes scare appear scummy, but also deflects it into a different angle as well to not be obvious about it.

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5tarscream posted...

I do think this makes Crescent look town though because I imagine if she was scum her buddies would be telling her to drop it. I dont think scum would let her tunnel so hard.
To coin an old Corrik phrase I think its bad town, but thats still town.

I mean, does anyone else see why I say he is basically just saying what I think... Repeatedly... Lol.

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5tarscream posted...

Who was it did this exact same thing a few games ago. I want to say Han and Corrik where Han lost his mind trying to ask Corrik to answer a question that hed already answered or at least Chris answered for him. Maybe adventure time mafia?

HB not Han, for the record. Just an fyi, 5tar.

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Good point, well argued

##vote: 5tarscream

Okay day 1 is done.

Han and Crescent saved the day 1 lynch. Both were town. Assuming it wasn't scum/scum. And, in that scenario, Ben did the most to try and screw it up, but eh?

So anyways..

Thoughts.

Mzero and 5tar are not scummates.

I could go either way on which is scum. I am pretty sure at least 1 of them is scum.

I was deadset it was 5tar until this post at the end of day 1.

5tarscream posted...

Exactly the way Han said he did.

You'd been busy and your immediate post isnt even to comment or catch up or add anything its just a vote with no conviction.

You vote Scare because hes got suspicion so its low key, hes also not leading so its safe. You say youre willing to jump to Aecioo who is leading and has been absent for a whole day. Also easy vote and low risk.

If you change to Aecioo and he flips town no one blames you because you voted late and he was afk and you get to point fingers at me and crescent for pushing him. If Scare gets traction and flips scum you also sail by.

So hmmm.

But.

Red is scum.

Early parking his vote in the day on a scummate for his hopefully splinter vote is typical red day 1 as scum. He was not much of a factor at all in the end of the day either.


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5tar is likely also not scummates with Aeiccio either. So if you think Aeiccio is scum, Mzero is likelier the partner.

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Wow guys, I'm sorry. I legit forgot about this game yesterday.

Whats going on? Someone pitch me their scum theory.

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Great work from Corrik. Im not scum fwiw but Im glad somebody is actually doing some work instead of just idling out. Puns you should really read up on the topics so far it wont take that long and you can make your own opinions. Im still not convinced Aecioo is town, I had a theory maybe he was town power and trying to stay off radar as much as possible but thats been debunked now hes idled out I guess he was just not here.

I feel like the scum is between Scare, Miz, Aecioo and Ben. Ben is the lowest of these but honestly Im letting gravys play influence this read a lot because Ben has dmg really done much for me to like his play.

I was worried D1 because literally every thought I had was posted just before me by Han and mimicked by crescent so even I felt that I looked like I was copying but it just turned out we had the same ideas.

I hate to say it but maybe this game is just as simple as it seems.

Im not sure on red personally. I dont have any read on him either way, although I think his reaction to Hans vote looked awful. Like he got mad then when Han said he didnt like reds play and switched to Miz he just dropped it.

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5tarscream posted...

Great work from Corrik. Im not scum fwiw but Im glad somebody is actually doing some work instead of just idling out. Puns you should really read up on the topics so far it wont take that long and you can make your own opinions. Im still not convinced Aecioo is town, I had a theory maybe he was town power and trying to stay off radar as much as possible but thats been debunked now hes idled out I guess he was just not here.

I feel like the scum is between Scare, Miz, Aecioo and Ben. Ben is the lowest of these but honestly Im letting gravys play influence this read a lot because Ben has dmg really done much for me to like his play.

I was worried D1 because literally every thought I had was posted just before me by Han and mimicked by crescent so even I felt that I looked like I was copying but it just turned out we had the same ideas.

I hate to say it but maybe this game is just as simple as it seems.

Im not sure on red personally. I dont have any read on him either way, although I think his reaction to Hans vote looked awful. Like he got mad then when Han said he didnt like reds play and switched to Miz he just dropped it.

Your Tange being scum day 1 post was predicated on Aeiccoo being town and Scare scum. What changed?

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The last time Gravy raged out, he was scum fwiw. Just seems unlikely here, but the possibility exists for sure.

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Corrik7 posted...

The last time Gravy raged out, he was scum fwiw. Just seems unlikely here, but the possibility exists for sure.

And bens been nothing by sunshine and lollipops with me this game and has declared me town.

Not that we've really said much of anything on the neighborhood chat.

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Hi SBell

Can you summarize your situation for me

Corrik7 posted...

Your Tange being scum day 1 post was predicated on Aeiccoo being town and Scare scum. What changed?

He replaced out. I thought it was a signpost for lynching afk town when appearing to be active. I thought maybe Aecioo was deliberately staying quiet to protect himself as a town power role. I still think Scare is more likely to be scum of the two, I dont like the way puns just asked someone to do the work for him when its only three topics, Ive seen D1s take longer than that alone. Then he voted me without actually bothering to do his own work.

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5tarscream posted...

He replaced out. I thought it was a signpost for lynching afk town when appearing to be active. I thought maybe Aecioo was deliberately staying quiet to protect himself as a town power role. I still think Scare is more likely to be scum of the two, I dont like the way puns just asked someone to do the work for him when its only three topics, Ive seen D1s take longer than that alone. Then he voted me without actually bothering to do his own work.

I don't follow how that changes your Tange voting philosophy.

You said Tange was saying Scare of Aeiccoo because if yinz chose scare, he was scum which made Tange look better or that they wouldn't blame him for the mislynch on aieccoo because he was inactive.

The argument is predicated on that Tange knows Aeiccoo is town alrdy.

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I was asked spontaneously to fill in for a low energy game. I don't feel like reading day 1 and I don't think it will matter a whole lot whether I do or don't. I feel more like chatting than reading. So it goes

And hey work is fine but corrik makes good points so why ignore them

turbopuns3 posted...

Hi SBell

Can you summarize your situation for me

I am town neighbor, HI puns.

I started this game completely ignoring the neighborhood and cause gravy to have a breakdown. Now Ben is my neighbor.

Ive payed little attention to the goings on, and I think I thought scare looked bad for early non-existence and sparatic posts.

Ben says I'm town and thinks we are long past the whole him being scum because of the gravy situation. So it's clearly a town town neighborhood according to Ben, but you know me, ever the skeptic and full of paranoia.


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Corrik7 posted...

I don't follow how that changes your Tange voting philosophy.

You said Tange was saying Scare of Aeiccoo because if yinz chose scare, he was scum which made Tange look better or that they wouldn't blame him for the mislynch on aieccoo because he was inactive.

The argument is predicated on that Tange knows Aeiccoo is town alrdy.

Unless it was the other way and Scare was the town lynch and Tange was just edging his bets.
If puns hadnt been so half assed Id have still believed he was town. My town read was based partly on Tange setting him up and partly in my theory for him being gone.
My theory appears to be wrong based on puns play which is making me question the alignment of scare and puns.
Basically puns behaviour is making me reconsider both his alignment and Scares. I dont think are both scum but I do believe one of them is.


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Does SBell hate heavy or something? It still sounds like hes super proud of making gravy quit.


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5tarscream posted...

Does SBell hate heavy or something? It still sounds like hes super proud of making gravy quit.

I love gravy. I take no pleasure in how that played out

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He asked me to summarize my situation. That's a part of it.

Stop making me out to be some kind of monster.

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Hey I was just asking because the way you word it makes it sound like youre bragging which I know youve already said you arent. Made. E think it was subconscious and thats make sense if you hated him. Maybe Im just inferring something that isnt implied. My bad. Carry on.

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Why did you start out ignoring the neighborhood?

turbopuns3 posted...

Why did you start out ignoring the neighborhood?

I didn't want any influence from my neighbor knowing that his alignment is not confirmed to me.

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5tarscream posted...

Does SBell hate heavy or something?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QRACgxsfRlI/maxresdefault.jpg

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Obellisk posted...

I didn't want any influence from my neighbor knowing that his alignment is not confirmed to me.

What about trying to ascertain info via probing questions?

turbopuns3 posted...

What about trying to ascertain info via probing questions?

That was a way I could have played it, but I was more interested in speaking with him in game and not as his neighbor. I was going to try to shine things that way. It also lead me down a path of thinking him scum based on the first two pages of the game.

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Red basically popped up to say "omg wtf han wah wah" then pretended the game doesn't exist again, so I am pretty confident he's Scum.

I'd stake it on MZero/Red.

I think Red might try a little more if the game wasn't slow and his team seemed to be doing something, but if MZero (or prev. Aecioo I guess) is his Scummate(s), then he'd just not care and idle.

That said, no reason to leave MZero alive right now.

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I like what corrik is selling

I'm not high on red being scum, but in willing to follow confirmed town han and what I feel to be confirmed town corrik here in there suspicions

##vote: red

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Scare, are you even reading?

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Scare, are you even reading?

Yeah. Corrik said red is scum, you said you think he is scum, ae almost hammered miz but the window has passed and puns is in now

What am I missing?

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Yeah

You and corrik both think red is scum. The window to hammer miz is gone. Puns tagged in.

What am I missing

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Oh weird. Site went down and said it didnt post

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##unvote

Honestly I dont even know what Scare is doing this game. Yesterday I thought he was deliberately looking awful in order to save Tange because I theorised Tanges role was more important to scum than Scares. It was the only surprising thing about Tanges flip to me, I expected him to be like a strong man or role blocker or something.
Then he just comes in and says he doesnt think red is scum but hell vote him cos town said so. Like this is exactly what I thought Tange was guilty of by hedging his bets so he can just say oh you were wrong if the flip is town.

Scare, you said you thought I might be town, Corrik then found a lot of reasons for you to actually make a case instead of just I think Star is town herp derp. Puns is also already voting me and still you dont follow. As town youre not usually this cowardly. Whats happening.

Who do YOU think is scum?


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Scare, we're not voting Red right now.

We're voting MZero.

5tar's unvote looks bad and has been noted.

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Your not my real dad Ill vote who I want!!

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Honestly my unvote was more a case of not wanting day to end accidentally early Miz is at 2 votes right? Id still like to see what the hell Scare is thinking.

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I want day to end early


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It looks like Scare has disappeared again anyway.
*sigh*

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Put miz at hammer and I'll hammer

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Seriously though guys I am town.

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Red what do you think about the neighbors?

Han are you absolutely certain Mzero over Scare is the right choice?

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red13n posted...

Seriously though guys I am town.

Glad thats been resolved.

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turbopuns3 posted...

Red what do you think about the neighbors?

i pretty much always assume neighbors are town til I have real good reason to assume otherwise.

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VOTALS. The cause of and solution to all of life's problems.
Mzero [2] - (Han), (5tar), Red, (Scare), Han,
5tar [1] - Puns,
Red [1] - (Han), Scare

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch other wise day ends Monday March 30 at 7pm MOUNTAIN(9et, 6pt)
Aprox 2 hours 45 mins.

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5tarscream posted...

Han are you absolutely certain Mzero over Scare is the right choice?

yes 100%

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scare at least has shown he's willing to post

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