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PrinceOfKoopas
03/28/20 8:53:21 PM
#201:


If this is Bloodstained's night vote... things aren't gonna go well for it tomorrow morning. :(

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 8:56:06 PM
#202:


TheCodeisBosco posted...
Holy shit, the anonymous voters are something else this year.

Heavy JRPG bias it seems.

SuperNiceDog posted...
early star of the contest = horizon zero dawn?

Nah. like i said...Fortnite is probably going to be THE most antivoted game in the bracket.

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LusterSoldier
03/28/20 8:58:15 PM
#203:


LordoftheMorons posted...
In all of the splits besides TWD the winner was favored more by registered users, right? Could it be a heavy bracket voting effect (particularly due to the forced votes)? Its easier to have an opinion on characters whose games you havent played than the games themselves.


Bracket voting may be playing somewhat of a role in these splits, but I think the forced voting is a much bigger factor. There's also the fact that characters are much easier to vote for as you can base your vote on character design alone if you aren't interested in researching more information about the character such as their back story or personality (which some people factor into their votes). Games are harder to vote for as they generally requires hands on exposure with the game to make a properly informed decision on which game to vote in each match, as the other alternative would be watching gameplay footage of the game on Youtube or another site.
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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 8:58:21 PM
#204:


PrinceOfKoopas posted...
If this is Bloodstained's night vote... things aren't gonna go well for it tomorrow morning. :(

Its doing pretty well tbf. New game from CV makers and lets not forget the garbage Switch version that kind of ruined its momentum.

Also people keep underrating Borderlands 2.

Yes its one of the weakest GOTY winner we've had but the game itself was popular and won GOTY for a reason...a ton of people played it, loved it and voted for it, myself included.

Lets not just dismiss it as canon fodder.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 8:59:32 PM
#205:


LusterSoldier posted...
Bracket voting may be playing somewhat of a role in these splits, but I think the forced voting is a much bigger factor. There's also the fact that characters are much easier to vote for as you can base your vote on character design alone if you aren't interested in researching more information about the character such as their back story or personality (which some people factor into their votes). Games are harder to vote for as they generally requires hands on exposure with the game to make a properly informed decision on which game to vote in each match, as the other alternative would be watching gameplay footage of the game on Youtube or another site.

Well thats the thing....Bastion is a game a ton of the "Hardcores" might vote for instead of TWD because tell tale games don't appeal to them.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 9:04:36 PM
#206:


I just realised ME3 is also in this contest. I thought only ME2 was being represented by the ME franchise

But it seems like its being fed to W3 early. That sucks

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Advokaiser
03/28/20 9:08:45 PM
#207:


Evillordexdeath posted...
I think that RE7 is probably underseeded and much stronger than VVVVVV.

That explains a lot.

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ZenOfThunder
03/28/20 9:15:34 PM
#208:


ZenOfThunder posted...


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MechanicalWall
03/28/20 9:17:39 PM
#209:


Doesn't look like that post is going anywhere so there's that

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Not_Wylvane
03/28/20 9:18:09 PM
#211:


Those registered/anonymous splits. Were probably gonna have quite a few matches this year decided by those.

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TsunamiXXVIII
03/28/20 9:19:00 PM
#212:


LusterSoldier posted...
Monster Hunter: World vs. Bravely Default
Registered Vote Result:
Monster Hunter: World - 4827 (60.12%)
Bravely Default - 3202 (39.88%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Monster Hunter: World - 3549 (52.77%)
Bravely Default - 3177 (47.23%)

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice vs. Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Registered Vote Result:
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice - 4871 (60.67%)
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch - 3161 (39.37%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice - 3605 (53.60%)
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch - 3120 (46.39%)

The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series vs. Bastion
Registered Vote Result:
The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series - 3981 (49.58%)
Bastion - 4050 (50.44%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series - 2918 (43.38%)
Bastion - 3807 (56.60%)

Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age vs. The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC
Registered Vote Result:
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - 6584 (82.00%)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC - 1447 (18.02%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - 5214 (77.52%)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC - 1511 (22.47%)

With more than a 7% difference between registered and anonymous users in the Monster Hunter and Sekiro matches, we are officially in territory that only appeared twice during the entire 2018 contest (one of them being a rallied match). Aloy/D.Va and Monika/Wario were the only 2 matches in 2018 to have more than a 7% difference between registered and anonymous users.

The Walking Dead/Bastion had about a 6% difference, while Dragon Quest XI/Trails SC was about a 4.5% difference.

The overall trend from yesterday's matches was huge splits between registered and anonymous users, even greater than the usual splits we saw in the 2018 contest. If the effect of forced voting in all 4 matches wasn't already apparent, we may be seeing that effect even worse with the last set of matches.

Registered users only made up about 54.43% of yesterday's votes, a drop off from Day 1's 55.09%. But still well above the percentage of registered users for the 2018 contest. It was expected that the percentage of registered users would drop after Day 1 as more casuals on this site find out there's a contest running.

Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kFS3SfH6sAhPdS85H7BpuFIkr9SayeF7AhMw-wrEBng/pub


Oh God, I'm screwed, aren't I?

Monster Hunter-Bravely Default I at least thought could go either way. Ironically I probably would've gone with Monster Hunter if it actually *was* a WRPG, but Capcom was such trash in 2018 that I figured the pseudo-Final Fantasy game would take it. Seeing that it was the registered voters that really carried MH is a bit disturbing...but not as disturbing as seeing that they were a lot higher on Sekiro than the anonymous voters. I never even considered the possibility of Sekiro winning that match, because Ni No Kuni is a JRPG and Sekiro is an action-adventure game. If I'd done the extra research and learned that despite the very Japanese name, it was in fact developed by Activision, a western company, I might've honestly considered taking Ni No Kuni to double it, and not out of any illusion that Ni No Kuni was anything but fodder itself.

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LeonhartFour
03/28/20 9:20:59 PM
#213:


creativename posted...

Oh all right. Edited.

You mentioned you have best year stats too?


@creativename

1. 1998 50.00%
2. 2001 33.81%
3. 1994 33.65%
4. 1997 32.63%
5. 1995 32.38%
6. 1991 31.38%
7. 1987 30.83%
8. 2002 28.29%
9. 2004 27.80%
10. 1992 27.15%
11. 2011 25.56%
12. 2006 23.08%
13. 2008 21.37%
14. 1996 20.14%
15. 2000 19.58%
16. 2007 18.94%
17. 2003 18.65%
18. 2010 16.76%
19. 2005 15.79%
20. 1985 15.78%
21. 2013 15.65%
22. 1999 14.85%
23. 2016 14.70%
24. 1993 14.08%
25. 1990 13.59%
26. 2015 12.94%
27. 2009 12.04%
28. 1981 11.86%
29. 2014 11.38%
30. 2012 8.88%
31. 1988 7.82%
32. 1986 7.13%
33. 1989 6.57%
34. 1978 4.57%
35. 1979 4.54%
36. 1983 3.98%
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plasmabeam
03/28/20 9:21:37 PM
#214:


Advokaiser posted...
Of all the results from today's matches, the only one that looks off to me is ME2/RE7.

Maybe RE7 is a lot stronger than I gave it credit for, but this doesn't look too good for ME2.

Everything else going as expected.

RE is a big name for a 16 seed.

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LeonhartFour
03/28/20 9:22:33 PM
#215:


Yeah, I feel like a big name like Resident Evil is only going to look so bad, even when it's a lesser entry like 7.
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plasmabeam
03/28/20 9:24:38 PM
#216:


Evillordexdeath posted...
I think that RE7 is probably underseeded and much stronger than VVVVVV.

This. I think RE7 would win comfortably head to head.

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Lightning Strikes
03/28/20 9:24:48 PM
#217:


Is 7 a lesser entry? As bad as its GotY performance was it easily beats anything not called 1, 2, or 4.

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LeonhartFour
03/28/20 9:26:50 PM
#218:


Well, I think it's a lesser entry because I feel like a lot of the fanbase was scared away after 6 and may not have played it.
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plasmabeam
03/28/20 9:27:14 PM
#219:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Is 7 a lesser entry? As bad as its GotY performance was it easily beats anything not called 1, 2, or 4.

3 would beat 7.

7 would likely crush 5 and CV.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 9:27:25 PM
#220:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Is 7 a lesser entry? As bad as its GotY performance was it easily beats anything not called 1, 2, or 4.

no it doesnt

it wouldnt beat 5 CV or 3.

but it would be slightly below those. Not by much

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 9:27:43 PM
#221:


plasmabeam posted...
3 would beat 7.

7 would likely crush 5 and CV.

5 isnt as weak as you think

6 yes. 6 would legitimately be the weakest game in the bracket. Id be confident of fortnite beating Re6

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Advokaiser
03/28/20 9:29:27 PM
#222:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Is 7 a lesser entry? As bad as its GotY performance was it easily beats anything not called 1, 2, or 4.

I mean it was critically acclaimed and loved by fans, but those GotY polls showed it like really weak sauce, for some reason.

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MechanicalWall
03/28/20 9:30:05 PM
#223:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pcgamesn.com/resident-evil-7/resident-evil-7-sales-4-million%3famp

By early 2018 RE7 had sold 5 million copies, which is about what RE2R had sold by December

https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2019/12/12/resident-evil-2-remake-sales-top-5-million-since-launch/

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Team Rocket Elite
03/28/20 9:37:39 PM
#224:


RE7 is weird. To my knowledge, RE fans liked the game. But it did really badly in the GotY polls. It wouldn't surprise me if the GotY polls were just inaccurate and RE7 isn't that bad.
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LeonhartFour
03/28/20 9:38:59 PM
#225:


Oh, I doubt it's as bad as it looked in that poll. I'm not worried about ME2 next round, if nothing else. I think you're just seeing the difference between something like Fallout 4 and Walking Dead or Tales of Berseria.
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KamikazePotato
03/28/20 9:41:41 PM
#226:


From my perception, people didn't know what to make of RE7 when it came out, due to how wildly it had deviated from any previous RE formulas. Appreciation for the game grew over time.

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MetalmindStats
03/28/20 9:41:42 PM
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LeonhartFour
03/28/20 9:45:25 PM
#228:


Trend charts:

Time | World | Default | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 59.03% | 40.97% | 476 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 58.61% | 41.39% | 2899 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 58.76% | 41.24% | 7522 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 57.41% | 42.59% | 3172 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 57.19% | 42.81% | 4670 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 57.33% | 42.67% | 4521 | (16:00-24:00)

Monster Hunter does its best work early on but doesn't drop a ton in the second half.

Time | Sekiro | Ni no Kuni | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 61.76% | 38.24% | 476 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 60.34% | 39.66% | 2902 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 59.21% | 40.79% | 7523 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 57.88% | 42.12% | 3172 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 56.67% | 43.33% | 4669 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 58.81% | 41.19% | 4523 | (16:00-24:00)

Sekiro slowly bled percentage after the freeze but rebounded a bit toward the end,

Time | Walking | Bastion | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 55.79% | 44.21% | 475 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 48.72% | 51.28% | 2898 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 49.27% | 50.73% | 7526 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 48.24% | 51.76% | 3174 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 45.95% | 54.05% | 4668 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 46.10% | 53.90% | 4521 | (16:00-24:00)

It's no surprise that Walking Dead would do the worst during daylight hours.

Time | DQXI | Trails SC | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 79.20% | 20.80% | 476 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 80.79% | 19.21% | 2899 | (0:00-1:00)
ENV | 80.26% | 19.74% | 7524 | (1:00-6:00)
DNV | 79.10% | 20.90% | 3172 | (6:00-10:00)
TMV | 80.99% | 19.01% | 4671 | (10:00-16:00)
TDV | 82.04% | 17.96% | 4521 | (16:00-24:00)

DQXI has a beastly day vote! Who knew!
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MechanicalWall
03/28/20 9:45:45 PM
#229:


When I think back to RE7's launch, a lot of people really liked the game, but I remember a lot of people not liking the idea of it being the new trendsetting ala RE4, what with it being in first person and having very little to do with the overarching RE lore. Once Re2r was confirmed to not be first person a lot of people were more comfortable with appreciating RE7 as its own thing.

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ShatteredElysium
03/28/20 9:46:42 PM
#230:


Is RE7 the VR one? That's always good for a laugh at parties to scare people
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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 9:49:09 PM
#231:


RE7;s GOTY performances shouldn't be taken that seriously.

Also 2017 was stacked like a mother fucker. An iterative game like RE which people "enjoyed" isn't going to cut it with games like friggin Persona 5, Horizon and Nier Automata against it, Hell Cuphead destroyed it on the Xbox poll and it lost to PUBG in the PC one.

GOTY polls should be taken with a grain of salt..

If we go by GOTY polls...God of War should have a shot at making the finals. But we all know its not going to be anywhere near it.

Peoples perception of games change over time. For good or for bad.


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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 9:57:24 PM
#232:


Just going through some RE7 polls and found this to be hilarious even though i'm not referring to RE7 in this poll...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6581-which-scheduled-first-quarter-game-are-you-most-looking

Most anticipated game of 1st Quarter 2017

LOL. Talk about a massive hyped up game that turned out to be garbage.

Also the the ME2 doubters

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7514-whats-your-all-time-favorite-2-game

It did reasonably well in this poll

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SuperNiceDog
03/28/20 9:59:33 PM
#233:


If they did best year in gaming JUST for the 2010s, which year would win? Which year would be 2nd, and which would be weakest?

2017 for the strongest, followed by....

2016?

Weakest being... 2012?

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SuperNiceDog
03/28/20 10:01:25 PM
#234:


2010 was a pretty strong year for games. Mass Effect 2, Super Mario Galaxy 2, and God of War 3. I think it would be in the upper half(barely), maybe like 5th out of 10?

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 10:04:38 PM
#235:


SuperNiceDog posted...
If they did best year in gaming JUST for the 2010s, which year would win? Which year would be 2nd, and which would be weakest?

2017 for the strongest, followed by....

2016?

Weakest being... 2012?

2016 was easily one of the weakest for this site. Bottom half easily.

I'd put half a dozen years above 2016

2016 we had a three way GOTY poll with Pokemon Sun and moon..FFXV and friggin Uncharted to which all 3 were relatively the same strength and in this contest below midcarders at best.

Compare that to any other year.

For me i'd say

2017>2018=2011>2015>2010>2019>2014>2013>2016=2014>2012

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MechanicalWall
03/28/20 10:08:33 PM
#236:


2015 had Bloodborne, Witcher 3, MGSV, Fallout 4, Splatoon, Life is Strange, Undertale, Mario Maker, Rocket League. Weak Nintendo year though

2013 had Last of Us, Bioshock Infinite, GTAV, Link between Worlds, Fire Emblem Awakening, Mario 3D World, Assassin's Creed IV, launch of PS4 and Xbone

After 2017 I'd probably take one of those two years

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SuperNiceDog
03/28/20 10:10:05 PM
#237:


Yuri_LowelI posted...
2016 was easily one of the weakest for this site. Bottom half easily.

I'd put half a dozen years above 2016

2016 we had a three way GOTY poll with Pokemon Sun and moon..FFXV and friggin Uncharted to which all 3 were relatively the same strength and in this contest below midcarders at best.

Compare that to any other year.

For me i'd say

2017>2018=2011>2015>2010>2019>2014>2013>2016=2014>2012

That's a good tier list Yuri, yea 2011 was a beast of a year, 2011 vs 2018 is very close.

Skyward Sword +Skyrim vs SSB: Ultimate and the God of War remake and RDR 2....

I think I'd go with 2011 but it's close


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Sharinnegan
03/28/20 10:12:22 PM
#238:


weakest year is probably whatever year dragon age inquisition won goty in the game awards

not just here but in general too.
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SuperNiceDog
03/28/20 10:17:21 PM
#239:


Sharinnegan posted...
weakest year is probably whatever year dragon age inquisition won goty in the game awards

not just here but in general too.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5750-best-of-2014-game-of-the-year

That would be the epic year 2014!!!

That year Super Smash for Wii U won game of the year.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 10:18:48 PM
#240:


Sharinnegan posted...
weakest year is probably whatever year dragon age inquisition won goty in the game awards

not just here but in general too.

2014 . 2014 sucked in general.

But on this site it had MK8 and Smash 4. Smash 4 won GOTY here not DA.

If we weren'ttalking about Gamefaqs...2014 is up there as the worst year this decade.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 10:20:14 PM
#241:


SuperNiceDog posted...
That's a good tier list Yuri, yea 2011 was a beast of a year, 2011 vs 2018 is very close.

Skyward Sword +Skyrim vs SSB: Ultimate and the God of War remake and RDR 2....

I think I'd go with 2011 but it's close

Please don't call God of war a remake dude...please. Its literally God of War 4. Just rebooted in a different game design style.

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SuperNiceDog
03/28/20 10:21:23 PM
#242:


Yuri_LowelI posted...
Please don't call God of war a remake dude...please.

It was a new game? Lol I thought it was remake, it has the same name as the 2005 game

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 10:22:44 PM
#243:


SuperNiceDog posted...
It was a new game? Lol I thought it was remake, it has the same name as the 2005 game

If it was it woudn't be eligable for this contest.

No its just doesn't have any numbers attached. A soft reboot. Although it takes place around a dozen years after God of War 3.

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LusterSoldier
03/28/20 10:59:52 PM
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SuperNiceDog
03/28/20 11:07:35 PM
#246:


haha ulti made one of the reddit ones... I'm sure board 8'ers made most of the topics.

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MechanicalWall
03/28/20 11:13:09 PM
#247:


SuperNiceDog posted...
haha ulti made one of the reddit ones... I'm sure board 8'ers made most of the topics.
He made two of them lmao

They'll die in New. No one gives a damn bout this site.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 11:16:58 PM
#248:


Respect to the Fornite community. They arent' stuck up dipshits like LoL and Undertale

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 11:33:53 PM
#249:


MechanicalWall posted...
2015 had Bloodborne, Witcher 3, MGSV, Fallout 4, Splatoon, Life is Strange, Undertale, Mario Maker, Rocket League. Weak Nintendo year though

2013 had Last of Us, Bioshock Infinite, GTAV, Link between Worlds, Fire Emblem Awakening, Mario 3D World, Assassin's Creed IV, launch of PS4 and Xbone

After 2017 I'd probably take one of those two years

Is based on games and the strength of them.

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