Board 8 > How confident are we of horizon beating fortnite?

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Yuri_LowelI
03/27/20 3:14:24 PM
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I mean really? Yes with no rallies its an easy win but this is a massive game were talking about. Lets hope that poll comes and goes

i cant see any other game that could be bandwagoned except dota 2

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MechanicalWall
03/27/20 3:46:53 PM
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I reckon 90% of fortnite's 13 year old playerbase doesn't even know what a gamefaqs is, and the remaining 10% don't care

It's certainly not impossible that a Fornite rally happens, if only due to sheer size of playerbase ala Draven. Nowadays though I feel a successful rally requires a passionate playerbase that are already highly integrated into the online gaming community. A LOT of people play Fornite, but I don't think it has the right kind of fanbase. Most fortnite players play fortnite and literally nothing else, having 0 investment in the gaming community and don't seek any validation from us. Why would they care if their game won on a boomer site?

Personally, taking a cursory glance over the entrants, I think the games most likely to stage a successful rally are:

- Witcher 3 (devs are known for egging their fans on)
- Smash Ultimate (literally all it would take is a couple of tweets from pros to completely overrun this site's piddly votals)
- Undertale again
- Maybe Overwatch
- A weeb game with a very passionate tumblr-esque fanbase like FE3H or KHIII

Thing is, Witcher and Smash are already naturally strong games that are the favorites to make it out of their divisions, so it wouldn't wreck too many brackets if those rallies happen.

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LeonhartFour
03/27/20 4:03:17 PM
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considering 95%+ of this site is over the age of 20, I feel pretty confident.

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Cavedweller2000
03/27/20 4:23:13 PM
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This topic reminds me I forgot to change this to Horizon > Fortnite.

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FakeAccount3000
03/27/20 4:29:31 PM
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You probably wont regret it. Im suddenly foreseeing a nobody could have seen this coming situation people could have seen coming when board 8s personal disdain for a game causes them to forget it might be the best selling game of all time or close to it.

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FFDragon
03/27/20 4:43:58 PM
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FakeAccount3000 posted...
board 8s personal disdain for a game causes them to forget it might be the best selling game of all time or close to it.

Yes, because this logic worked out well for the actual best selling game of all time.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6065-best-game-ever-day-4-minecraft-vs-halo-combat-evolved

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RyoCaliente
03/27/20 4:46:18 PM
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FFDragon posted...
Yes, because this logic worked out well for the actual best selling game of all time.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6065-best-game-ever-day-4-minecraft-vs-halo-combat-evolved

You cannot compare Halo to Horizon though...Halo was/is huge. Sure, maybe not on this website, but Horizon is a good/great game. It didn't revolutionize anything, it didn't sell a console on its own (which Halo all did).

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/27/20 4:46:53 PM
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FFDragon posted...
Yes, because this logic worked out well for the actual best selling game of all time.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6065-best-game-ever-day-4-minecraft-vs-halo-combat-evolved

I mean Minecraft and Halo would both probably murder Horizon so I dunno.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/27/20 4:55:02 PM
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MechanicalWall posted...
I reckon 90% of fortnite's 13 year old playerbase doesn't even know what a gamefaqs is, and the remaining 10% don't care

It's certainly not impossible that a Fornite rally happens, if only due to sheer size of playerbase ala Draven. Nowadays though I feel a successful rally requires a passionate playerbase that are already highly integrated into the online gaming community. A LOT of people play Fornite, but I don't think it has the right kind of fanbase. Most fortnite players play fortnite and literally nothing else, having 0 investment in the gaming community and don't seek any validation from us. Why would they care if their game won on a boomer site?

Personally, taking a cursory glance over the entrants, I think the games most likely to stage a successful rally are:

- Witcher 3 (devs are known for egging their fans on)
- Smash Ultimate (literally all it would take is a couple of tweets from pros to completely overrun this site's piddly votals)
- Undertale again
- Maybe Overwatch
- A weeb game with a very passionate tumblr-esque fanbase like FE3H or KHIII

Thing is, Witcher and Smash are already naturally strong games that are the favorites to make it out of their divisions, so it wouldn't wreck too many brackets if those rallies happen.

smash can get all the rallies it wants. Its not beating BOTW.

the same reason Melee would not have taken down Oot had it beaten Undertale

also i can tell you right now with 1000% confidence NO part of the internet is going to rally for Kingdom Hearts 3.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/27/20 4:57:02 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
considering 95%+ of this site is over the age of 20, I feel pretty confident.

im not talking about this site. Obviously horizon beats fortnite on gamefaqs easily. Im talking about outside influence

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3DSRage
03/27/20 5:00:28 PM
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FakeAccount3000 posted...
You probably wont regret it. Im suddenly foreseeing a nobody could have seen this coming situation people could have seen coming when board 8s personal disdain for a game causes them to forget it might be the best selling game of all time or close to it.

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FFDragon
03/27/20 5:01:50 PM
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I'd take Horizon over Minecraft tbqh

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FakeAccount3000
03/27/20 5:13:24 PM
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FFDragon posted...
Yes, because this logic worked out well for the actual best selling game of all time.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6065-best-game-ever-day-4-minecraft-vs-halo-combat-evolved

Halo is kind of a big deal too though? Honestly, its certainly possible I dont know enough about Horizon: Zero Dawn. I do think taking a chance here could be a vital win if Fortnite does win though.

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MechanicalWall
03/27/20 5:24:29 PM
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
smash can get all the rallies it wants. Its not beating BOTW.

the same reason Melee would not have taken down Oot had it beaten Undertale

also i can tell you right now with 1000% confidence NO part of the internet is going to rally for Kingdom Hearts 3.
I'd agree BotW is exactly the game that would be able to neutralize a Smash rally, and Smash is already probably the second strongest game in bracket so it doesn't matter anyway. That's my point tho, I don't see too many sources for potential rallies that would really change match outcomes

And KHIII is just an example of the KIND of game that has the sort of fanbase profile that would bother staging a rally for a contest on this site. KHIII itself I don't think is well liked enough, but some of the other weeb games might be targets

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DoctorJimmy133
03/27/20 5:26:08 PM
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i think Fortnite is too big to rally. LoL and Undertales communities rallies worked because from their perspective a win for their game was a win for us. Fortnite is too big to even have that kind of community. To its players, its just the Fortnite.

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Leonhart4
03/27/20 5:38:10 PM
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
im not talking about this site. Obviously horizon beats fortnite on gamefaqs easily. Im talking about outside influence

The point is that there's nobody here who would care to rally for it and little kids don't even know what this site is to care about it in a match.

Also I'd take Horizon over both Halo and Minecraft.

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Averia
03/27/20 5:38:55 PM
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DoctorJimmy133 posted...
i think Fortnite is too big to rally. LoL and Undertales communities rallies worked because from their perspective a win for their game was a win for us. Fortnite is too big to even have that kind of community. To its players, its just the Fortnite

Indeed, the Fortnite reddit is 10 smaller than Lol's with "only" 450k subscribers instead of 3m+ for Lol.

Of course, if they really do rally, even 10% would be more than enough to crush the contest but I doubt they would care.
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WarThaNemesis2
03/27/20 5:39:24 PM
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At this point there isn't any game that can't be rallied. If you rally 25k votes, that's looking to be enough to beat anything barring a counter-rally.

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LOLIAmAnAlt
03/27/20 9:58:38 PM
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MechanicalWall posted...
Most fortnite players play fortnite and literally nothing else
I mean, that's LoL too.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/27/20 10:00:32 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
The point is that there's nobody here who would care to rally for it and little kids don't even know what this site is to care about it in a match.

Also I'd take Horizon over both Halo and Minecraft.

Halo 1? you're insane. No you wouldn't.

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Yuri_LowelI
03/27/20 10:02:15 PM
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MechanicalWall posted...
I'd agree BotW is exactly the game that would be able to neutralize a Smash rally, and Smash is already probably the second strongest game in bracket so it doesn't matter anyway. That's my point tho, I don't see too many sources for potential rallies that would really change match outcomes

And KHIII is just an example of the KIND of game that has the sort of fanbase profile that would bother staging a rally for a contest on this site. KHIII itself I don't think is well liked enough, but some of the other weeb games might be targets

The only "weeb" game you keep referring to that has any shot of mass rallying is Persona 5. Especially since Royal comes out next week.

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Nintendogs
03/27/20 10:08:07 PM
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MechanicalWall posted...
Why would they care if their game won on a boomer site?
You can tell that to the Undertale fanbase.
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KingAshnard
03/27/20 10:08:27 PM
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I have Fortnite winning but losing to Borderlands 2 in the next round.

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swordz9
03/27/20 10:09:44 PM
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Fortnite is gonna be absolutely buried
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XIII_rocks
03/27/20 10:13:50 PM
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Fortnite is a game that loads and loads of people play casually but I don't think it has the feel of a game that will win due to rallies.

Undertale was an underdog, made by one guy, a little more esoteric. That drives passion and a need to see it succeed. Fortnite is fucking everywhere. Not many people playing Fortnite feel that need, that passion to see it crowned "best game ever" or game of the decade or whatever.

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MechanicalWall
03/27/20 10:14:01 PM
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Nintendogs posted...
You can tell that to the Undertale fanbase.
The Undertale fanbase is still largely composed of gamers that have some investment in the gaming community. Most Fortnite players could give a squirt of piss about gaming as a whole or really any other games except maybe CoD or Fifa

Yuri_LowelI posted...
The only "weeb" game you keep referring to that has any shot of mass rallying is Persona 5. Especially since Royal comes out next week.
The Fire Emblem games, Persona, and Nier are most of the 'weeb' games I had in mind. They have the kind of communities that would care enough and are concentrated enough to be able to hold a rally. I definitely don't think they get Draven/Undertale tier rallies, but even moderate or minor rallies get those games out of highly debated matches, which all of them have.


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ZeldaTPLink
03/27/20 10:20:02 PM
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FakeAccount3000 posted...
You probably wont regret it. Im suddenly foreseeing a nobody could have seen this coming situation people could have seen coming when board 8s personal disdain for a game causes them to forget it might be the best selling game of all time or close to it.

I mean let's be fair to Board 8, this is a game aimed at people born after 2005. We are not the target audience and don't have to be.
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Yuri_LowelI
03/27/20 10:20:55 PM
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MechanicalWall posted...
The Undertale fanbase is still largely composed of gamers that have some investment in the gaming community. Most Fortnite players could give a squirt of piss about gaming as a whole or really any other games except maybe CoD or Fifa

The Fire Emblem games, Persona, and Nier are most of the 'weeb' games I had in mind. They have the kind of communities that would care enough and are concentrated enough to be able to hold a rally. I definitely don't think they get Draven/Undertale tier rallies, but even moderate or minor rallies get those games out of highly debated matches, which all of them have.

Persona 5 doesn't really need any rallies. Its a pretty strong game period. Nier is interesting. I hope it beats Pokemon

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ZeldaTPLink
03/27/20 10:22:08 PM
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Also I'd totally take Horizon over Halo Reach

Not sure about Minecraft since theres apparently an indie renaissance
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Leonhart4
03/27/20 10:29:03 PM
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
Halo 1? you're insane. No you wouldn't.

Halo is worthless on this site now. The fact that Halo struggled against Minecraft is an indictment of Halo, not an indication that Minecraft doesn't suck.

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MechanicalWall
03/27/20 10:35:53 PM
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
Persona 5 doesn't really need any rallies. Its a pretty strong game period. Nier is interesting. I hope it beats Pokemon
Most of the games I listed in my first post itt are strong games, which is why I'm not really worried about rallies killing my bracket this time.

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Nintendogs
03/27/20 10:44:38 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Halo is worthless on this site now. The fact that Halo struggled against Minecraft is an indictment of Halo, not an indication that Minecraft doesn't suck.
Sounds like Minecraft sucks here then if it failed against a worthless series.
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guffguy89
03/27/20 10:49:59 PM
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I wouldnt mind a fortnite rally.

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MetalmindStats
03/27/20 10:55:32 PM
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Nintendogs posted...
Sounds like Minecraft sucks here then if it failed against a worthless series.
And just think, a significant chunk of voters had actually played Minecraft - and in some cases, even enjoyed it for extended durations. Imagine the beating in store for a game hardly anyone on GameFAQs has played, yet plenty of voters have reasons to antivote.

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FakeAccount3000
03/28/20 6:40:44 AM
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MetalmindStats posted...
And just think, a significant chunk of voters had actually played Minecraft - and in some cases, even enjoyed it for extended durations. Imagine the beating in store for a game hardly anyone on GameFAQs has played, yet plenty of voters have reasons to antivote.

citation needed

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MetalmindStats
03/28/20 6:48:10 AM
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FakeAccount3000 posted...
citation needed
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7146
-are-you-one-of-the-millions-of-fortnite-players (press backspace at the beginning of this line to see the poll)

Slightly old, but only 30% of GameFAQs even trying the biggest game in the world once, even though it's free-to-play, is seriously low. Maybe "hardly anyone has played" is a bit of an exaggeration, but certainly hardly anyone here will be voting for Fortnite because of their experiences with it.

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The_Ctes
03/28/20 8:13:55 AM
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Nintendogs posted...
Sounds like Minecraft sucks here then if it failed against a worthless series.

It absolutely does. Halo had fallen off a major cliff in 2015, it looked terrible next round too.

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Wildspark
03/28/20 8:14:52 AM
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I dont like Fortnite at all but its one of the most popular games round right now so I think its silly to dismiss it and act like it has no chance of winning

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MetalmindStats
03/28/20 6:21:35 PM
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Wildspark posted...
I dont like Fortnite at all but its one of the most popular games round right now so I think its silly to dismiss it and act like it has no chance of winning
Of course it's silly to do so. A Fortnite rally could always catch fire. However, I feel pretty confident in saying that Fortnite isn't winning with its GameFAQs strength alone.

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MereChristian
03/28/20 6:23:12 PM
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I feel Fortnite will be heavily anti-voted here.
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GuessMyUserName
03/28/20 6:30:25 PM
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yeah I'd expect Fortnite to a) not be popular with the GameFAQs demo and b) be anti-voted

... but at the same time, its round 1 match with.... Horizon? I'm not really sure what to expect from that

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BetrayedTangy
03/28/20 6:36:22 PM
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Horizon's probably the 5th or 6th strongest game in its division. I don't see a way it loses anytime before Round 3. Unless a crazy Fortnite rally happens (which I highly, highly doubt)

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MechanicalWall
03/28/20 6:42:00 PM
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I don't expect Horizon to beat Mass Effect 2 but I DO expect it thoroughly embarrass it and make me wonder if taking ME2 to win the division was a bad move

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TheCodeisBosco
03/28/20 6:44:32 PM
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Horizon is a respected game. Even if some Fortnite fans try to rally their game, I feel like it would backfire to a significant extent in favor of Horizon.

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FFDragon
03/28/20 8:15:16 PM
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bump

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Bossman_Coolguy
03/28/20 8:21:00 PM
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aged like milk

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Yuri_LowelI
03/28/20 8:37:18 PM
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The match isn't finished. Until its 5pm PST on the 29th of March and this match over....i will not rest easy.

And like i said in the original post...its an easy win for Horizon without rallies. And i was right about that.

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