Current Events > You could have a racist rapist for president OR you could have racist rapist!

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all I'm telling you is that the "better than Trump" standard is the only one that matters, because it's the only one remaining in a choice between two candidates. You don't have to support biden, you have to vote for him

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Paper_Okami posted...

If you are still critical of Bernie and his policies in a time like this where it's especially clear they are needed... you are a complete and utter fool

welp that settles it, let me MAGA with you then because you didn't get bernie as a nominee *rolls eyes*

Godnorgosh posted...

No, we don't have to vote for Biden any more than you have to write in Bernie Sanders. It's complete bullshit that we have to vote for Biden but somehow we don't have to do anything outside of electoral politics or have standards better than not Trump. If we don't take any kind of action outside of the confines of these two disgusting, rapacious parties then we are fucked, Biden or no Biden.

so trump it is?

See, this is why I get angry at the bernie people.

Paper_Okami posted...

prove it's wrong

That's not how it works. He has no obligation to offer a rebuttal to an accusation to dismiss it. Provide the accusation and support it with compelling evidence.

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/joe-biden-metoo-times-up/

Ryan Grim this reporter also broke the Kavanaugh story
seems pretty fucking credible to me

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https://twitter.com/LangerResearch/status/1244112294814068737

Trump's gonna win again because the democrats are so fucking incompetent and the left (who have a lot less power than the establishment) are gonna get blamed again, because the democratic party is unable to take responsibility for anything always got to blame someone else.

You're a joke if you blame the powerless (voters/ non-voters) for the mistakes of the powerful
ask yourself why there are 100 million people who can vote but choose not to.

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#votebluenomatterwho they raped
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Stop spreading conspiracies pls, biden would never touch or rape a soul or sniff, kiss, etc. a minor

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https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1244466515816022016

hmm doesn't sound good

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Godnorgosh posted...

No, we don't have to vote for Biden any more than you have to write in Bernie Sanders. It's complete bullshit that we have to vote for Biden but somehow we don't have to do anything outside of electoral politics or have standards better than not Trump. If we don't take any kind of action outside of the confines of these two disgusting, rapacious parties then we are fucked, Biden or no Biden.

just don't spend the next 4 years complaining about trump when you're not willing to come down from your tower of privilege to vote against him. Biden is far from perfect but he's an improvement. If you can't see that, then you can't be reasoned with

anyway I'm not voting at all because I don't live in the US. I unfortunately still have to hear about your garbage politics


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are you seriously fucking telling him to vote for a rapist in a holier than the thou tone?
fuck off
the democrats keep pushing the lesser of two because people keep voting for them, we have so little power and people use it carelessly.
Oh and of the 100 million people who don't vote, a significant amount of them are marginalized people who realize neither party will do a damn thing for them. So don't you talk about privilege you have no idea what you are talking about.

Bide wrote the awful, racist crime bill that put so many black men in jail.
He has been trying to cut social security for decades
He was against desegregation
He helped cause the student debt crisis.
His climate plane is abysmal, it's as good as doing nothing.
His admin deported countless people and built those cages, they killed civilians with drones.
All 45 administrations are rotten to the core.

The "best" of them who was FDR who implemented policies to enforce the status quo, his policies were only meant to help white people, he put Japanese people in camps. that's the best we've ever had.

The status quo is racist, it is murderous. Voting for Joe won't do a damn thing about that. So take your moralizing and shove it up your ass.

we are a one party state which has the illusion of choice, as Julius Nyerere correctly stated.
Every damn administration has staged coups around the world with terrible consequences.
This has laid bare that electoral politics won't change a damn thing, though it was already known i deluded myself into thinking we could do something with it. Most politicians only do good things if you force their hand, because they know the alternative is a lot worse. Slavery was not abolished, civil right were not gotten, the 40 hour work week was not gotten because of "casting a vote"
Our country is extremely racist, which being an Australian you should know something about. But hey even your backwater prison allocates some funds for people who need it, and provides them with healthcare.

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It's comical how moderates are talking about privilege while pushing for the guy that built the cages that my Hispanic brothers and sisters are being held in today. But you know, better check my Mexican American privelege!
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i remember so white L.A comedian lady came into a hispanic dude's mentions on twitter because he was talking about a relative who died after being deported. She just came in and talked about how great Warren was, and he told her that he supports Bernie, the only candidate who wants to abolish ICE. She just wouldn't fuck stop. Twitter isn't real, but damn if this last couple weeks haven't shown how absolutely awful Warren's fans are. They've made her out to be some unique progressive, intelligent, and competent individual, all of which is completely wrong. These people are writing fan fics of this "amazing politician" who ran one of the worst primary campaigns i have ever seen. It was especially bad for someone who was the front runner at some point.

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Paper_Okami posted...

are you seriously fucking telling him to vote for a rapist in a holier than the thou tone?

no I'm saying you should vote against trump, and that any progressive should, particularly if they live in a swing state

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ineffectual politicians like biden enabled Trump's victory
and continuing to nominate politicians like him would ensure that another trump could be elected.

my state always votes blue

Biden and Trump are trash and i will not vote for them
Policy is the most important thing by far, if the democrats lose it is entirely on them


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it blows my mind how bernie or busters twist reality and disregard logic to make their point.

They post multi-paragraph posts (e.g. post 62) describing how Biden is THE DEVIL and how to them the status quo is a very dark, racist place.

Then they think that justifies supporting (either directly or indirectly) someone who makes Biden look like a choir girl holding a fluffy bunny (45).

The long rant on post 62 is basically "you think Pepsi is good for you? You think Pepsi is nutritious and won't rot your teeth and kidneys? No, Pepsi won't solve your nutritional status quo, so that's why I want to force this rat poison down your throat, so open wide!"

And let's please, PLEASE not pretend that writing in bernie when he's not in the ballot is a viable choice at all, lmao, it's merely dividing the non-trump vote.

Paper_Okami posted...

ineffectual politicians like biden enabled Trump's victory
and continuing to nominate politicians like him would ensure that another trump could be elected.

my state always votes blue

Biden and Trump are trash and i will not vote for them
Policy is the most important thing by far, if the democrats lose it is entirely on them

no no no.
If people like you had voted for Hillary she'd have won some of the swing states she lost. People in 261 post the stats to back it up frequently.

Policy is the most important thing by far, and you are ready to indirectly support a guy whose policy is kids in cages (not that it affects YOU directly, huh?), rolling back women's rights (not that if affects YOU directly, huh?), "nazis are very fine people" (not that it affects YOU directly, huh?), widespread LGTBQ discrimination under the guise of "religious freedom" (not that if affects YOU directly, huh?) and of course, race-based policies (which would probably benefit YOU).

See the parts in parenthesis? We're beginning to see a pattern here. Policy is not the most important thing. YOU are the most important thing, right?