Board 8 > The Show EP 1 - The Glorious Return of GotD! Breaking down the bracket w/ Leon

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Ngamer64
03/03/20 4:49:38 PM
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439 days later, The Show is back! More importantly, so is Game of the Decade, one of the best Contests this website has ever seen. yoblazer and I had no choice but to grab Leon to talk about everything at length!

http://board8.speedrunwiki.com/interviews/theshow/20200302-TheShowEP01a.mp3
http://board8.speedrunwiki.com/interviews/theshow/20200302-TheShowEP01b.mp3

Part One - Big Picture and SB's Format/Choices In Review
  • 2 games per series limit- good or bad?
  • mistake to group Nintendo to the top half of the bracket?
  • overall, do you like SB's seeding/bracket layout?
  • respectvoterfaqs - will "GotD" be taken into account?
  • what will be 2020's Undertale?
Part Two - The Full Bracket Breakdown
* discussing the most important matches in all 8 divisions
* best ways to get involved this Contest season (Crew, Oracle, Guru, Streak, Spread)
* SHOW EXCLUSIVE: Luster's official tiebreaker recommendation

It was an amazing night, I hope you enjoy listening!

Past Episodes and All Show Info:
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/The_Show


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Leonhart4
03/03/20 4:52:33 PM
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Let us know how it was at this time tomorrow when you finally finish listening...!

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KamikazePotato
03/03/20 4:57:27 PM
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Tag

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Whiskey_Nick
03/03/20 4:58:11 PM
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GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hype

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Whiskey_Nick
03/03/20 4:58:45 PM
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Not nearly enough Captain Toad

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Whiskey_Nick
03/03/20 4:59:15 PM
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..... 5 hours, sweet merciful god

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_SecretSquirrel
03/03/20 5:00:12 PM
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Welp. looks like I have my entire evening booked now.

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LordoftheMorons
03/03/20 5:09:57 PM
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Probably gonna have to wait until after Super Tuesday to listen, but tag for later!

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shane15
03/03/20 5:12:09 PM
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Captain_Sorzo
03/03/20 5:40:03 PM
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Tag for later. Looking forward to it!

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Menji
03/03/20 5:54:24 PM
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Ngamer64
03/03/20 6:23:59 PM
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Full disclosure: we talked for 7 1/2 hours. Fortunately I was able to cut things down to only the VERY BEST content for your listening pleasure!

Normally we do the big picture overview and then go in depth on the first round one episode and break down the remainder of the bracket in Episode Two, but sadly I'm going to be out of town next week so we had to condense everything down to a single night. The result was the longest and most epic episode in Show history, passing the old record set by Episode Two of 2018 (also a Leon night, unsurprisingly).


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SwiftyDC
03/03/20 6:35:30 PM
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Tag

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Leonhart4
03/03/20 7:15:31 PM
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I just talk too much, I guess!

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ZeldaTPLink
03/03/20 8:26:05 PM
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Yay! It will be an exciting 5 days listening to all of it.
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ZeldaTPLink
03/03/20 8:27:05 PM
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Oh there won't be a show next week so I guess I can listen even more slowly.
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Leonhart4
03/03/20 8:27:50 PM
#17:


Yeah, spread it out! It's why we went so long.

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ZenOfThunder
03/03/20 8:28:16 PM
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oh shit

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GTM
03/03/20 8:40:35 PM
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Tag

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LusterSoldier
03/03/20 9:14:50 PM
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Whoa, a 2 part episode. Downloading this NOW!
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LusterSoldier
03/03/20 9:34:00 PM
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As of right now, I have just started listening to part 1 of this episode.
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LusterSoldier
03/03/20 9:43:01 PM
#22:


XD at Leon's Link/Easter Bunny bonus match suggestion. I don't think that will happen. The bonus match after the final will probably be the winner of the contest against Majora's Mask (previous GotD winner).
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LusterSoldier
03/03/20 9:52:21 PM
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Correct, the previous contest required to pick a vote for all matches on the same day before the site allowed you to lock in your votes. Technically, you could bypass that by submitting a vote directly to the poll results page, a method used by the voters in TRE's first vote contest. So that's how vote totals for the individual matches on the same day can be slightly different from each other.

For this contest, having forced voting in all matches on the same day could hurt vote totals in the earlier rounds, but the impact should be lessened in the later rounds when we get down to 2 matches per day. But we don't know how the voting will be handled in that regard. This also makes tiebreaker predictions harder to call.
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LusterSoldier
03/03/20 9:57:13 PM
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For the format of the contest, I think we should have one extra round of 1 match per day. Extending 1 match per day to the quarterfinals would be a lot better, and would only increase the length of the contest by an extra 2 days.
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LusterSoldier
03/03/20 10:02:08 PM
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The 6 day break during the last contest was a bad idea because it reduced vote totals for the rest of the contest. This was made even worse by the complete lack of any bonus matches during the break. Bonus matches during the break would have maintained interest with the contest, especially among the casual voters who got really thrown off by this break.
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LeonhartFour
03/03/20 10:12:04 PM
#26:


Yeah, we really need to try to press Allen to give us bonus matches during the break.

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_SecretSquirrel
03/03/20 10:15:12 PM
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I love that yo accused Luster of using an exploit to not vote for a match in 2018, when there's absolutely no way Luster would miss voting on a single poll.

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CaptainOfCrush
03/03/20 10:34:51 PM
#28:


Wasted

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LusterSoldier
03/03/20 10:41:46 PM
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XD at yoblazer's reaction over Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair getting into the bracket over Skyward Sword or either Mario Maker game. But yeah, it's a real shame that neither Mario Maker game could make it in. I know we do have 2 Mario games in the bracket, but they are both 3D Mario games. Super Mario Maker 2 would have the 2D Mario representation locked down if it made the bracket.
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_SecretSquirrel
03/03/20 11:13:59 PM
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Yeah, I agree with yo on that. Should have been Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony.

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LeonhartFour
03/03/20 11:14:48 PM
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_SecretSquirrel
03/03/20 11:25:16 PM
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Ngamer is really making me lament Untitled Goose Game's snub, though I am not sure that was the intention.

Oh well, Untitled Goose for CBXI.

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_SecretSquirrel
03/03/20 11:46:12 PM
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I'm liking Life is Strange as a pick, because it's on every non-Nintendo platform (whereas Halo is Xbox and PC only), and it's in a much more active series, ports notwithstanding. It's a "what are you doing for me lately" pick, which might be important in a few matches in the bracket.

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_SecretSquirrel
03/03/20 11:51:49 PM
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PSA: Switch to official bracket, people. Like I just did while hearing yoblazer do another WTF rant about Edith Finch (at least, this one I haven't played this time around).

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LeonhartFour
03/03/20 11:57:38 PM
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What Remains of Edith Finch is a good game!

(Still voting for FFXV though)

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_SecretSquirrel
03/04/20 12:30:50 AM
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Fun fact: the release order of the oldest games in the contest is Bayonetta, VVVVVVV, and then Mass Effect.

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LeonhartFour
03/04/20 12:32:24 AM
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I knew Mass Effect 2 had to be up near the top because I remembered it was January 2010, but I didn't know if anything predated it there.

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CaptainOfCrush
03/04/20 12:39:58 AM
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Bayonetta was released in 2009 in Japan, IIRC. NOSTALGIA VOTES.

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MZero11
03/04/20 12:42:20 AM
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Tag for when I get home

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MZero11
03/04/20 12:44:24 AM
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Bayonetta was released in 2009 in Japan, IIRC. NOSTALGIA VOTES.

TitS 2nd came out in 2006

Adjust brackets accordingly

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azuarc
03/04/20 12:45:41 AM
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wow, that's an episode and a half. Look forward to listening.

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EstelleBright
03/04/20 12:47:06 AM
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MZero11 posted...
TitS 2nd came out in 2006

Adjust brackets accordingly



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LusterSoldier
03/04/20 12:52:00 AM
#44:


As of right now, I have just started listening to part 2 of this episode. I took a break of at least one hour after I got done with part 1, so I'm now ready for part 2.
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_SecretSquirrel
03/04/20 1:16:39 AM
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I think I would be on board with RDR > GTAV as an upset if it was RDR2. I'm not sure about RDR1 being the game to take down its Rockstar superior.

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_SecretSquirrel
03/04/20 1:34:07 AM
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It just occurred to me listening to the Show, that Div 5 has two kind of sort of rematches from the past two contests, in Mass Effect 3 vs. Starcraft II from 2015 and Geralt vs. Rosalina from 2018.

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LusterSoldier
03/04/20 1:35:15 AM
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XD at Ngamer referring to Aloy as a TJF waifu girl and a Korean Starcraft champ in this discussion of Aloy losing to D.Va in the last Character Battle.
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LusterSoldier
03/04/20 1:43:12 AM
#48:


Yeah, we're definitely way too old as a userbase for Fortnite. If Fortnite had come out in 2010 instead of 2017, I think it'd more popular on this site as our average age in 2010 was around 22. This was simply a case of poor timing on the release date for Fortnite - it came out well past the time this site used to be heavily into multiplayer games. As well as being too old at the time of its release.
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NowItsAngeTime
03/04/20 1:44:32 AM
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Cool, will listen tomorrow.

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LusterSoldier
03/04/20 1:55:53 AM
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I see Ngamer hasn't gotten over his buttannihilation of Allen refusing to allow Spider-Man into the last Character Battle in this discussion of Marvel's Spider-Man.
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