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Judgmenl 02/14/20 7:21:11 PM #1: |
The made some of the best games of all time.
They went defunct and were bought out by their competitor, Enix almost two decades ago and one of the best game series, Final Fantasy was dragged through the mud. One of the best game series of the 90s, was basically turned into one of the worst of the 2010s, basically becoming known for nothing more but mobile and mmorpg cash grabs. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pedro45 02/14/20 7:22:19 PM #2: |
When did they come together? What final fantasy was it?
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Lokarin 02/14/20 7:22:21 PM #3: |
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InfernalFive 02/14/20 7:24:11 PM #5: |
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When did they come together? What final fantasy was it?11 I believe, or 12. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 02/14/20 7:25:51 PM #6: |
pedro45 posted...
When did they come together? What final fantasy was it?Final Fantasy X-2 was the last game Squaresoft produced. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfernalFive 02/14/20 7:28:50 PM #7: |
Although 12 was in development before the merger IIRC.
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Judgmenl 02/14/20 7:30:02 PM #8: |
Hiroyuki Ito was the director known for introducing ATB starting in Final Fantasy IV and he was also both the director of Final Fantasy IX and Final Fantasy XII. I'm really wondering how much of FFXII's development was done under Squaresoft. What happened to Ito anyways? He hasn't made a game since.
InfernalFive posted... Although 12 was in development before the merger IIRC.If I remember it was the game in development while the merger happened. You can see the changes to the series starting here with the introduction of Vaan and Panello as awful leads. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfernalFive 02/14/20 8:07:55 PM #9: |
Judgmenl posted...
Hiroyuki Ito was the director known for introducing ATB starting in Final Fantasy IV and he was also both the director of Final Fantasy IX and Final Fantasy XII. I'm really wondering how much of FFXII's development was done under Squaresoft. What happened to Ito anyways? He hasn't made a game since.Yeah that and the plot taking a complete nosedive during the second half. It's one of my top 3 FF but you can tell it had a very shaky development. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 02/14/20 8:38:01 PM #10: |
InfernalFive posted...
Although 12 was in development before the merger IIRC. Yep, the director of the game was changed midway and they made some really bad decisions like ditching Basche as the main character and adding Vaan and Penelo, with Vaan being one of the worst main characters in any video game I've ever tried. 12 could have been good, but it just came out a total shit show. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Red_Frog 02/14/20 8:39:10 PM #11: |
Square had been dragging FF through the mud long before Enix got their hands on them.
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wwinterj25 02/14/20 8:43:15 PM #12: |
Squaresoft was better but Square-Enix isn't bad. As for Final Fantasy yeah it went downhill after X. Still for a ongoing series Kingdom Hearts is still ticking the right boxes for me. Also Final Fantasy VII: Remake is looking good.
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Bulbasaur 02/14/20 8:49:45 PM #13: |
square sucked after 9 anyways.
x was a garbage storm, 12 was actually decent, 13 would have been better if it weren't called final fantasy, and 15 was just a fuckin shitshow with great graphics and mechanics 14 is good tho. --- plop ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 02/14/20 8:50:58 PM #15: |
Bulbasaur posted...
square sucked after 9 anyways.Only 1 of those games was fully made by Squaresoft and you're wrong about the quality of the game. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bulbasaur 02/14/20 9:02:17 PM #16: |
that doesn't matter and i'm absolutely not
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The_tall_midget 02/14/20 9:05:45 PM #17: |
Square and Enix actually made a lot of good games before they merged. A shame that once they became an entity, that they stopped making so many games and decided to focus on so few titles.
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Metalsonic66 02/14/20 9:19:56 PM #18: |
XIII actually had a good battle system once everything opened up.
Unfortunately that takes about 20 hours. --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 02/14/20 10:04:33 PM #19: |
Bulbasaur posted...
that doesn't matter and i'm absolutely notYou are though. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 02/15/20 12:25:53 AM #20: |
Bulbasaur posted...
square sucked after 9 anyways. Wat. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 02/15/20 12:55:41 AM #22: |
Revelation34 posted...
Wat. People frequently try to argue that people would love 13 if they weren't trying to compare it to previous games in the series. I don't really know much about 2-3 but I'm pretty sure 13 still would have gotten criticism no matter what. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 02/15/20 12:59:46 AM #23: |
iirc Square was supposed to basically take over Enix but because Spirits Within was such a massive turd they were in a terrible position and Enix took over Square and made things even more turdy
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wwinterj25 02/15/20 1:01:49 AM #24: |
XIII is ass. Didn't bother with the rest in the trilogy.
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DeathMagnetic80 02/15/20 1:18:13 AM #25: |
The_tall_midget posted...
Square and Enix actually made a lot of good games before they merged. A shame that once they became an entity, that they stopped making so many games and decided to focus on so few titles. I mean, the fact is that with development costs, etc, it's not as feasible to crank our games at the pace they used to. That being said, if you look up a list of games released since the merger, it's pretty big. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhiskeyDisk 02/15/20 1:39:05 AM #26: |
Is a Vagrant Story remake/sequel too much to ask for?
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Lokarin 02/15/20 2:03:12 AM #27: |
WhiskeyDisk posted...
Is a Vagrant Story remake/sequel too much to ask for? There's a posibility of an Ivalice Alliance reboot, but I doubt a sequel will be made... spiritual successor perhaps. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhiskeyDisk 02/15/20 2:06:20 AM #28: |
Lokarin posted...
There's a posibility of an Ivalice Alliance reboot, but I doubt a sequel will be made... spiritual successor perhaps. Clearly this is not what I'm asking for. --- The SBA has closed for business, we thank you for your patronage Assassins. ~there's always free cheese in a mousetrap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 02/15/20 3:19:33 AM #29: |
they tried to turn final fantasy into mario
but instead of improving it they just make it a completely different genre each time like why have online games be 11,14 12 should've been another offshoot same with 15 if square-enix didn't suck they would've had a dark souls like game with the mana series ages ago but square is for casual gamers and little girls now so we get stuff that'd basically run on IOS nobody hated ff12 either, fftactics advance was fun but people complained about variety in the rules because it was released during the time kingdom hearts and FFX was out i'm going to pick up xenoblade remake or watch a full playthrough square isn't worth my money they already spoiled most of ff7 anyway, who is excited to play it now? not me --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WErq2CBYTU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Locke90 02/15/20 3:49:08 AM #30: |
Metalsonic66 posted...
XIII actually had a good battle system once everything opened up.yeah no gameover if your leader dies is not a good battle system. --- Friend code 3222-6836-6888 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zacek 02/15/20 4:05:11 AM #31: |
I remember it... like it was yesterday!
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Lokarin 02/15/20 4:41:51 AM #32: |
Locke90 posted...
yeah no gameover if your leader dies is not a good battle system. What if it had a different framework, not a Final Fantasy game... you have your main character, but your 'party' are just your combat drones (Gundam style)... You would have the same gameplay, but the leader death would then be justified. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenKnight127 02/15/20 8:12:18 AM #33: |
And the best game they ever made was called Einhander.
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Metalsonic66 02/15/20 9:04:47 AM #34: |
Locke90 posted...
yeah no gameover if your leader dies is not a good battle system.But people like the Persona games --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 02/15/20 9:07:23 AM #35: |
Metalsonic66 posted...
But people like the Persona games you can actually control the other characters though in persona and you dont just spam attacks while occasionally changing stances for most of the game and there are actually enjoyable characters --- Lemonheads ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 02/15/20 9:09:45 AM #36: |
You couldn't control your party members in the original Persona 3, IIRC. But regardless, his comment has a bit of a hole there.
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Bulbasaur 02/15/20 9:11:11 AM #37: |
Mead posted...
you can actually control the other characters though in personanot in 3 --- plop ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 02/15/20 9:29:23 AM #38: |
You couldn't control the other characters in FES either.
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Metalsonic66 02/15/20 9:40:02 AM #39: |
I think you could control them in P3P
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BeerOnTap 02/15/20 9:57:22 AM #40: |
If they went belly up, they werent that good to begin with, were they?
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Zikten 02/15/20 3:10:03 PM #41: |
it's kinda weird how Final Fantasy turned bad and Dragon Quest took off in the west. Enix got their revenge
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Xfma100 02/15/20 3:16:42 PM #42: |
Zikten posted...
it's kinda weird how Final Fantasy turned bad and Dragon Quest took off in the west. Enix got their revenge Not really when FF still sells a ton more. Even KH sells better in the West than DQ. FFXIV also became one of the most popular MMOs ever... With all that said... I thought people were split on FFII, FFIII, FFVIII, and FFX. So FF has always had a few subpar entries. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 02/15/20 3:17:47 PM #43: |
well there is also a Dragon Quest mmo. Dragon Quest 10 I think. but they refuse to fucking bring it over here! I bet it would be popular if they had English servers
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Locke90 02/15/20 4:30:31 PM #44: |
Metalsonic66 posted...
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papercup 02/15/20 4:54:51 PM #45: |
FFXIV is fantastic, because Naoki Yoshida is in charge, and unlike pretty much anyone else that's been in charge of an FF game over the last 20 years, he actually gives a shit.
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The_tall_midget 02/15/20 4:59:25 PM #46: |
Zikten posted...
well there is also a Dragon Quest mmo. Dragon Quest 10 I think. but they refuse to fucking bring it over here! I bet it would be popular if they had English servers I am unsure. People always scream that DQ games would be popular if brought over, but it hasn't been that long since DQ games have started selling acceptable numbers. --- Bernie Sanders partisan has now slapped a 15-year-old for supporting Trump. The tolerant left strikes again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 02/15/20 7:45:56 PM #47: |
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Yeah everybody knows Dragon Quest VIII sold terribly. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 02/15/20 7:47:19 PM #48: |
Dragon Quest VIII sold because it had a Final Fantasy XII demo.
Also Dragon Quest is an Enix series, not a Squaresoft series. Pretty hard to screw up Dragon Quest when the same 2 people (Yuji Horii & Akira Toriyama) have been doing the series for the past 35 years. Koichi Sugiyama has also done the music for every single Dragon Quest game. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac I'm a Senior Software Engineer. No I don't write TPS reports, this isn't Office Space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 02/15/20 7:49:35 PM #49: |
Judgmenl posted...
Dragon Quest VIII sold because it had a Final Fantasy XII demo. https://youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 02/15/20 7:50:57 PM #50: |
I bought Dragon Quest VIII because it had a Final Fantasy XII demo.
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Revelation34 02/15/20 7:52:31 PM #51: |
Judgmenl posted...
I bought Dragon Quest VIII because it had a Final Fantasy XII demo. I forgot anecdotal evidence is the best kind of proof. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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