Board 8 > Sony in Price Conundrum. Waiting for Xbox to lead the way.

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Corrik7
02/14/20 3:28:40 PM
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KingButz
02/14/20 3:32:48 PM
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I hope they pay you for this because that's the only way your shilling isn't pathetic
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Corrik7
02/14/20 3:35:16 PM
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KingButz posted...
I hope they pay you for this because that's the only way your shilling isn't pathetic
What? How does that make sense?


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KingButz
02/14/20 3:36:20 PM
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I can respect a man who does what it takes to get paid
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swirIdude
02/14/20 3:37:24 PM
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KingButz posted...
I hope they pay you for this because that's the only way your shilling isn't pathetic
There are so many Corrik posts that you could call pathetic but you picked this one?

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Corrik7
02/14/20 3:37:26 PM
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Um, ok? I just didn't write any of the articles or tweets, and it is basically on every board and forum already? I am just... Bringing it here to discuss?

Where is the "shilling"? Lol.

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MichelBollinger
02/14/20 3:52:21 PM
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I guess it's the idea of you saying they're waiting for Microsoft to "lead the way" being taken as a praise for Microsoft.

Which would be funny since Sony let Microsoft "lead the way" to the disastrous Xbox One E3 conference before dunking on them with memes for an hour that same night.

Phil Spencer already said the box itself doesn't matter for their plans, and I'd bet we're probably gonna see Halo on the Switch in like 2 or 3 years anyways, so the whole console wars thing is gonna just get dumber and dumber.
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Bane_Of_Despair
02/14/20 3:55:37 PM
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To be fair I think it's more your general suck off Microsoft mentality that you're already known for and this just adds to it

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Murphiroth
02/14/20 3:57:16 PM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
To be fair I think it's more your general suck off Microsoft mentality that you're already known for and this just adds to it

This.

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RPGlord95
02/14/20 3:58:53 PM
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Corrik is the only person on the planet still in the console wars right?

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MichelBollinger
02/14/20 3:59:59 PM
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RPGlord95 posted...
Corrik is the only person on the planet still in the console wars right?


The consoles themselves sure aren't!
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Corrik7
02/14/20 4:01:07 PM
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RPGlord95 posted...
Corrik is the only person on the planet still in the console wars right?
Nah. The only ones is the PS Bros on here.

I literally posted the last bulletpoint in the tweet as part of the title, and the PS fanboys came out with pitchforks.

That's console wars for ya, bud.

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Obellisk
02/14/20 4:02:42 PM
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I love the smell of consoles in the morning

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Bartzyx
02/14/20 5:48:11 PM
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swirIdude posted...
There are so many Corrik posts that you could call pathetic but you picked this one?

I don't ever click on his topics but I saw "sony" and "xbox" in the same topic title and didn't even have to look to see who posted it. I just get less and less tolerant of stupid topics.

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Corrik7
02/14/20 5:49:36 PM
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Bartzyx posted...
I don't ever click on his topics but I saw "sony" and "xbox" in the same topic title and didn't even have to look to see who posted it. I just get less and less tolerant of stupid topics.
Sounds like you need to call the wahhhhmbulance.



Topic is literally on every single forum that is about video games. Grow up.

I do wonder if the moderators on this board will ever stop people who follow into threads just to whine about the TCs and the threads instead of actually post on topic. Probably not. But, one can hope!

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Bartzyx
02/14/20 5:53:28 PM
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Yes because I'm the one who makes topics like this as desperate pleas for attention from a community of people that either hate you or think you're a pathetic joke.

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Corrik7
02/14/20 5:55:11 PM
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Bartzyx posted...
Yes because I'm the one who makes topics like this as desperate pleas for attention from a community of people that either hate you or think you're a pathetic joke.
Says the dude who comes into the topic to cry.

Yeah, I am looking for attention by posting about video games on a video game forum. Lmfao.

You got some issues.

It is funny any time a topic comes up that isn't pro-sony in the slightest way that the people come out of the woodworks to whine.

Like it is on cue.

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Bartzyx
02/14/20 5:58:59 PM
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make better topics

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Corrik7
02/14/20 6:02:45 PM
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Literally the same topic as is on every video game forum, bud. Maybe stop crying about everyday things. It is okay. You can be normal.

Not everything has to praise Sony for you to be okay in life. It is okay. Like, this isn't even really a negative Sony thing. They are unsure of how to set their price and are trying to see what Microsoft does with their pricing. And, you still are crying over it.

Like, if that doesn't register as a wake up call for you, then geeze louise.

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Bartzyx
02/14/20 6:03:56 PM
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he's completely misreading my alignment but he's never been known here for his intelligence

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Corrik7
02/14/20 6:05:44 PM
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Anyways, ignoring the pointless peanut gallery forever crying, back on topic for the rest of the posts.

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Bartzyx
02/14/20 6:09:09 PM
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yes i'm sure you'll find so many people here that actually give a shit

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Lolo_Guru
02/14/20 6:15:26 PM
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Makes perfect sense to me.

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Corrik7
02/14/20 6:19:27 PM
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Yeah, the only thing I see though is that I don't know why Microsoft would announce their price before Sony. By all indications last gen, Microsoft got torched specifically because they announced price first and Sony undercut it significantly.

But, if Microsoft is supposed to reveal it at E3 and Sony is waiting for them.... Does that mean we won't get a Sony price all the way until the middle of June or July even? It is curious. That is assuming Microsoft doesn't wait them out either.

Then again, Microsoft may determine how cheap the PS5 is because if they choose to sell at a loss, Sony may in turn also do so, which they might not otherwise.

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skullbone
02/14/20 6:21:03 PM
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Didn't Microsoft already announce their pricing?

9.99 a month to play all of their new games on PC?

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Xiahou Shake
02/14/20 6:25:44 PM
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skullbone posted...
Didn't Microsoft already announce their pricing?

9.99 a month to play all of their new games on PC?
It's only $5 a month for now! Will eventually be $10 though.

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Corrik7
02/14/20 6:26:34 PM
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skullbone posted...
Didn't Microsoft already announce their pricing?

9.99 a month to play all of their new games on PC?
That is PC Gamepass. Not sure what that has to do with the Xbox Series X.

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skullbone
02/14/20 6:27:57 PM
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Well that's the price I have to pay Microsoft to play all of their games? What's confusing here?

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MichelBollinger
02/14/20 6:30:15 PM
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What was the time frame they said all Series X games would be playable on Xbone? 2 years?
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MichelBollinger
02/14/20 6:30:45 PM
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Also lol at any publishers announcing anything at E3 this year.
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Corrik7
02/14/20 6:32:02 PM
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skullbone posted...
Well that's the price I have to pay Microsoft to play all of their games? What's confusing here?


That is cool and all (tho not all games go to PC to my knowledge and vice versa), but trolling aside, this has to do with the consoles themself of course. You could play all the game on your existing Xbox One if you have one if you want to. Microsoft is not about closing off consumers but giving them options of where and how they play.

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Corrik7
02/14/20 6:32:48 PM
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MichelBollinger posted...
What was the time frame they said all Series X games would be playable on Xbone? 2 years?
Give or take, yeah. I think pretty much everything announced this year at E3 will play on Xbox One.

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skullbone
02/14/20 6:40:29 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
Microsoft is not about closing off consumers but giving them options of where and how they play.

Hmm what are you implying here?

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Xiahou Shake
02/14/20 6:41:45 PM
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These days I think of Xbox consoles kind of like a cheap soundbar vs. a legit sound system for your home.

Sure, to an enthusiast who's fine with spending a bunch of dosh and pouring in extra effort, that cheap soundbar has absolutely no appeal and really no reason to exist.

But plenty of folks (a majority!) don't want to/can't spend the money for the higher-end system, don't care to put in the effort and perhaps aren't even bothered by the quality difference to begin with! Some folks just want to get something easy and have it work. I'm definitely not about that life, but I "get it."

And frankly I respect Microsoft for opening up their platform to the point that people aren't trapped on one specific piece of hardware. I continue to be frustrated with Sony's hostage-taking approach of keeping their consoles relevant, though it would appear even they're potentially going to loosen up on that front in the very near future.

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Corrik7
02/14/20 6:41:55 PM
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skullbone posted...
Hmm what are you implying here?
That is their new business model.

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MichelBollinger
02/14/20 6:42:18 PM
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Corrik7 posted...

Give or take, yeah. I think pretty much everything announced this year at E3 will play on Xbox One.


Bruh I think you are a little out of the loops at E3 here.

I mean Microsoft was already not technically on the show floor anymore to begin with, I severely doubt they're going to stay in line with the show this year when everyone else has dropped out. They can afford to make their own schedule.
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Corrik7
02/14/20 6:46:02 PM
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MichelBollinger posted...
Bruh I think you are a little out of the loops at E3 here.

I mean Microsoft was already not technically on the show floor anymore to begin with, I severely doubt they're going to stay in line with the show this year when everyone else has dropped out. They can afford to make their own schedule.
Um, they have already announced they will be at E3, which of course means their show across the street at the Microsoft Theatre and their games on the floor. All the major publishers have just been confirmed for the most part just days ago by ESA. Sony deciding not to go, as they did last year, doesn't mean Microsoft isn't going to be there. They will be.

And, yes, E3 will still be the major area for game announcements. Sony if they are going to have their own event, I would assume would have theirs earlier.

It is rumored they will announce a lot at Pax East whenever that is.

Microsoft has a rumored Xbox Series reveal coming 4/6/20, but it is just a rumor.

I can't see prices being announced before E3 for Microsoft tho.

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Corrik7
02/17/20 2:11:41 PM
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https://www.psu.com/news/ps5-reveal-could-happen-in-april-hints-sony/

Possibly get a reveal but not the price in April? Surprised it hasn't been revealed yet tbqh.

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Lucavi000
02/17/20 3:11:13 PM
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I imagine 499.99 or 549.99.

Selling at 450 it wont really make any profit (not that it needs to cause Playstation) but I'm sure it would be nice to make a bit more than a few dollars per unit sold.

Also I cant imagine there would be any 'must-have' game that will pull me off my PC and PS4 pro and make me purchase a PS5.

Also lol xbox. Trash.

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Corrik7
02/17/20 3:23:34 PM
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For some reason, I am feeling $400 for both. I think Microsoft goes $400 and Sony has to match. It's a tough pill to swallow but they should both be able to make it up in the long run.

I could see $500 with $300 for the Lockhart, but I dunno. I think Microsoft is willing to throw money at this to try and get back in the game here. (Not that I think it will work.)

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skullbone
02/17/20 3:33:55 PM
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If Microsoft really wanted to put pressure on Sony they could do 400 or 450 with a free year of Gamepass included. No way that Sony matches that

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Corrik7
02/17/20 3:35:15 PM
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They won't match the free year thing, but I think Sony matches Microsoft's price no matter what if it's 400 or more. Or undercuts it if it's above 500.

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Lucavi000
02/17/20 3:35:47 PM
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400 would net near zero profits. It was stated in an article somewhere that the PS5 costs Sony around 400 just to make so selling it at cost would be zero profit and I dont know about you but most companies dont like that. Especially companies with board members, investors and stocks.

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Corrik7
02/17/20 3:37:54 PM
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Not uncommon to sell at a loss initially to build install base and as components get cheaper to get a profit on hardware in addition to software and subscriptions.

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scarletspeed7
02/17/20 3:41:25 PM
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I would sell at one dollar less than Xbox no matter what

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hockeydude15
02/17/20 6:10:26 PM
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Lucavi000 posted... 400 would net near zero profits. It was stated in an article somewhere that the PS5 costs Sony around 400 just to make so selling it at cost would be zero profit and I dont know about you but most companies dont like that. Especially companies with board members, investors and stocks.

Pretty much every console besides Nintendo ones have been sold at a loss on release. Get the consumer base early, sell more games and services to make up for it and the fact that it will become cheaper to manufacture later on so you are only selling at a loss for a small amount of it's life. This has been the case since like PS2 days.

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Corrik7
02/17/20 6:31:54 PM
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hockeydude15 posted...
Pretty much every console besides Nintendo ones have been sold at a loss on release. Get the consumer base early, sell more games and services to make up for it and the fact that it will become cheaper to manufacture later on so you are only selling at a loss for a small amount of it's life. This has been the case since like PS2 days.
I think PS4 was sold at profit but not sure.

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hockeydude15
02/17/20 6:35:37 PM
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It wasn't.

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Corrik7
02/17/20 6:41:06 PM
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I stand corrected. Sold at a $60 loss.

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Corrik7
02/17/20 6:45:41 PM
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This says it wasn't now. So idk.

"Sony recently pointed out that it is finding it difficult to price the PS5 console. But the grapevine indicates that the PlayStation 5 could turn out to be Sonys most expensive console ever as it will reportedly cost $450 to manufacture as per Bloombergs estimates.
IHS Markit estimates that the PS4 released nearly seven years ago had a bill of materials of $381. That console was eventually launched at $399. This means that Sony didnt make anything from the sale of the console itself if we factor in other costs such as marketing. And now that the cost of making the PS5 console has reportedly jumped over 18% thanks to costlier parts, one can expect Sony to price the new PlayStation at around $500."

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/report-399-playstation-4-costs-about-381-to-build/


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