Board 8 > Why they gotta change events around? *FFVII remake spoilers*

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TheRock1525
02/13/20 3:31:10 PM
#51:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Yes. It's like remaking Star Wars with Luke knowing that Vader is his father from the beginning. Kills a lot of the tension.
This is not comparable at all.

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Lopen
02/13/20 3:32:56 PM
#52:


The thing about Sephiroth's reveal is what builds anticipation is in game time, not the actual story events requiring to be road mapped in that exact way.

Like it takes like 4 or 5 hours in FFVII to get to the area where the Zolom is. In this remake it'll probably take like 40 hours. Is it better to make Sephiroth completely MIA for the entire first game when you've seen him several times with 25 hours of play in the original?

I'm just saying there is a way to have Sephiroth's appearances still be sparse without ruining the story's integrity. Like you need to stop thinking of things in terms of where they exist in the story and think more where they exist in terms of the play time. Jenova may get revealed in Midgar here but like, the boat scene might be about as deep in in terms of play time as is her reveal in Midgar, so who cares?

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MichelBollinger
02/13/20 3:33:21 PM
#53:


KokoroAkechi posted...


So I can understand changes based on like "social-political" or whatever stuff you want to call it. People are way mroe fucking sensitive in 2020 then in 1997. Does that mean they should make the changes? I don't know. There is this thing in one of the asassin's creeds games where they purposely changed some things, like a description of a multigendered classroom in an era where only males would be present. Historically accurate? No. But okay? Probably. Or something like say old looney tunes episodes, a lot of which would not fly if they were created today for the same audience. Would it be okay to remake those and change the things that people later accepted as objectionable?


I don't know how to get through with you here. These aren't the same issues in the slightest. The original translation for FFVII was already an innacurate, unfaithful, poor representation of the game to begin with. It was the result of a one man rush job by a guy who didn't actually get to see the game and was translating from a broken up script document.

It's like if they remade the original Pokemon anime and you got mad because they changed them back into rice balls in the dub and didn't call them jelly donuts anymore.
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KokoroAkechi
02/13/20 3:34:31 PM
#54:


MichelBollinger posted...
I don't know how to get through with you here. These aren't the same issues in the slightest. The original translation for FFVII was already an innacurate, unfaithful, poor representation of the game to begin with. It was the result of a one man rush job by a guy who didn't actually get to see the game and was translating from a broken up script document.

It's like if they remade the original Pokemon anime and you got mad because they changed them back into rice balls in the dub and didn't call them jelly donuts anymore.

im more talking about tifa here than barret. i can accept that barret was a localization change.
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MichelBollinger
02/13/20 3:36:00 PM
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...What are you even talking about with Tifa then?

Are you...do you want her to call Barrett a ******???
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Leonhart4
02/13/20 3:48:01 PM
#56:


Jenova was revealed in Midgar in the original game, too, and you learned its name. You even got a CGI screenshot of it with no head and an eyeball on one boob. You just didn't fight it, but there's no harm done in adding a fight.

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FFDragon
02/13/20 3:58:08 PM
#57:


MichelBollinger posted...
Are you...do you want her to call Barrett a ******???

I don't know why this is such a sticking point.

Avalanche is literally a slum terrorist organization. Yeah it would be bad socially 2020 for her to say it, but it is definitely in-character for her to say it.

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LeonhartFour
02/13/20 4:38:37 PM
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yeah just because you'd be fine with a fictional character saying or doing something doesn't necessarily mean you endorse real people doing it

I still want Sephiroth to kill Aerith in FFVIIR but this is not an endorsement of murder

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LeonhartFour
02/13/20 5:12:34 PM
#59:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Yes. It's like remaking Star Wars with Luke knowing that Vader is his father from the beginning. Kills a lot of the tension.

this analogy only works if the comparison you're making is that Cloud knows he's a Sephiroth clone from the beginning

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Obellisk
02/13/20 6:51:24 PM
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Forget the change in the story. Don't look at it as Final Fantasy 7 Remake. Think of it as Final Fantasy 16.

Now none of your reservations matter, it's a brand new game.

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Anagram
02/13/20 6:52:18 PM
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Imagine a new non-canon DLC route where Tifa dies and Aeris lives.

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FFDragon
02/13/20 6:53:55 PM
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Imagine a reworked relationship system where the winner still gets the date at Golden Saucer but the loser gets Sephiroth'd.

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LeonhartFour
02/13/20 6:58:47 PM
#63:


FFDragon posted...
Imagine a reworked relationship system where the winner still gets the date at Golden Saucer but the loser gets Sephiroth'd.

I'll go for this as long as Yuffie is included

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Jakyl25
02/13/20 7:12:36 PM
#64:


FFDragon posted...
Imagine a reworked relationship system where the winner still gets the date at Golden Saucer but the loser gets Sephiroth'd.


Imagine a reworked relationship system where the winner gets a date with Sephiroth
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Drakeryn
02/13/20 7:36:38 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Imagine a reworked relationship system where the winner gets a date with Sephiroth

want
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LeonhartFour
02/13/20 7:38:09 PM
#66:


Jakyl25 posted...
Imagine a reworked relationship system where the winner gets a date with Sephiroth

So cold...I am always by your side.

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Fastbreak
02/13/20 7:38:53 PM
#67:


Jakyl25 posted...
Imagine a reworked relationship system where the winner gets a date with Sephiroth

Pfft

Wait for Sora dlc

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KingButz
02/13/20 8:01:05 PM
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Nah, make it so the winner gets the date and also gets Sephiroth'd
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LeonhartFour
02/13/20 8:04:45 PM
#69:


KingButz posted...
Nah, make it so the winner gets the date and also gets Sephiroth'd

so we're making Sephiroth tsundere for Cloud now?

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FFDragon
02/13/20 8:06:54 PM
#70:


Now?

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LeonhartFour
02/13/20 8:07:56 PM
#71:


actually I guess that would make him yandere

I got my deres mixed up there

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Fastbreak
02/13/20 8:16:46 PM
#72:


FFDragon posted...
Now?


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-Starbucks-
02/14/20 10:31:24 PM
#73:


there's no reason to change "This guy are sick" - it's a classic sentence beloved by fans

Have you ever been to the South? They speak bad English all the time. It's actually more realistic to have bad English
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SwiftyDC
02/14/20 11:08:10 PM
#74:


Its gonna be fucking amazing.

Glass is overflowing with Mako juice.

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HanOfTheNekos
02/14/20 11:20:22 PM
#75:


-Starbucks- posted...
there's no reason to change "This guy are sick" - it's a classic sentence beloved by fans

Have you ever been to the South? They speak bad English all the time. It's actually more realistic to have bad English

I suppose you would have to have above a minute level of intelligence to see a reason for them to change that.

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MichelBollinger
02/15/20 2:27:17 AM
#76:


-Starbucks- posted...
there's no reason to change "This guy are sick" - it's a classic sentence beloved by fans

Have you ever been to the South? They speak bad English all the time. It's actually more realistic to have bad English


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LeonhartFour
02/15/20 10:05:31 AM
#77:


-Starbucks- posted...
there's no reason to change "This guy are sick" - it's a classic sentence beloved by fans

Have you ever been to the South? They speak bad English all the time. It's actually more realistic to have bad English

I ain't never heard nobody say this guy are sick and I lived in the south for 30 years

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banananor
02/15/20 10:21:08 AM
#78:


I wanna know if they still have that button cloud, tifa, and barret have to push at the same time

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FFDragon
02/15/20 10:21:37 AM
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I wonder if they still have Huh? FINGER? What the hell?!

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Leonhart4
02/15/20 11:36:21 AM
#80:


FFDragon posted...
I wonder if they still have Huh? FINGER? What the hell?!

I can't imagine they'll bring the finger back for this game unfortunately

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FFDragon
02/15/20 2:06:09 PM
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After making that statement, I did research and apparently you can get the Tutorial Finger as a pet in FF14.

So I wouldn't count it out.

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pjbasis
02/15/20 3:07:59 PM
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I'm just expecting this to be bad because Square has been bad.

Doesn't really matter how close or different it is.

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scarletspeed7
02/15/20 3:32:07 PM
#83:


pjbasis posted...
I'm just expecting this to be bad because Square has been bad.

Doesn't really matter how close or different it is.
I saw a parade nearby if you're jonesing to rain on something.

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Leonhart4
02/15/20 3:32:26 PM
#84:


pjbasis posted...
I'm just expecting this to be bad because Square has been bad.

Doesn't really matter how close or different it is.

Square has been quite good lately!

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pjbasis
02/15/20 6:25:10 PM
#85:


scarletspeed7 posted...
I saw a parade nearby if you're jonesing to rain on something.

I saw a children's hospital nearby if you're itching to contribute to your community in a positive way.


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pjbasis
02/15/20 6:25:32 PM
#86:


Leonhart4 posted...
Square has been quite good lately!

Says the kh3 and ffxv fan lmao

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pjbasis
02/15/20 6:28:27 PM
#87:


Also I think there's a really good conversation here about FF abandoning turn based and that it really bums me out.

But I doubt too many people will agree with that.

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Leonhart4
02/15/20 6:32:45 PM
#88:


pjbasis posted...
Also I think there's a really good conversation here about FF abandoning turn based and that it really bums me out.

But I doubt too many people will agree with that.

I enjoy turn based games still, but I don't mind KH style either.

pjbasis posted...
Says the kh3 and ffxv fan lmao

They've made more good stuff than just that in the last 5 years but sure

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MichelBollinger
02/15/20 6:34:03 PM
#89:


KHIII and FFXV are both tragically awful games.

DQXI was good!
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Leonhart4
02/15/20 6:35:18 PM
#90:


There's nothing tragic about FFXV other than it being abandoned before they could finish and costing Tabata his job in the process


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FFDragon
02/15/20 6:39:09 PM
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I consider the disjointed nature of the game (basically requiring several dlcs, movies, a mobile game) to really get everything to be tragic.

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MichelBollinger
02/15/20 7:03:10 PM
#92:


The part where you have to drive the car around the and the part where you have to fight monsters with that combat are both pretty tragic.

And that's the whole game, so.

The fishing is good.
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Leonhart4
02/15/20 7:19:42 PM
#93:


FFDragon posted...
I consider the disjointed nature of the game (basically requiring several dlcs, movies, a mobile game) to really get everything to be tragic.

The mobile game was just a real version of a game the characters like to play! There's nothing essential about it!

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scarletspeed7
02/15/20 8:53:02 PM
#94:


pjbasis posted...
I saw a children's hospital nearby if you're itching to contribute to your community in a positive way.
I own the children's hospital and you're still a Debbie Downer.

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FFDragon
02/15/20 8:59:28 PM
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Have you guys watched Children's Hospital? Show is fucked up.

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Leonhart4
02/15/20 9:00:36 PM
#96:


it's okay pjbasis is just upset that Square doesn't make classics like Chrono Cross anymore

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pjbasis
02/15/20 9:09:01 PM
#97:


Leonhart4 posted...
it's okay pjbasis is just upset that Square doesn't make classics like Chrono Cross anymore

You're goddamn right

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BK_Sheikah00
02/15/20 9:58:36 PM
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KH3RM and FFXIV are also really good!

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