Board 8 > I rank Pokemon songs [rankings] [VGM]

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rwlh
02/08/20 7:19:05 PM
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Hello hello! Several months ago I took nominations for Pokemon game music to rate and rank. Im pretty knowledgeable about VGM, but Pokemon as a series had largely eluded me. My goal was to get a good sense of the best the series has to offer. 138 songs later, I feel like Ive achieved my goal! Im very pleased with the selections.

I rate VGM on a 0 to 10 scale in increments of 0.5. Heres the breakdown of songs:
10: 3 songs
9.5: 3
9: 10
8.5: 5
8: 6
7.5: 16
7: 16
6.5: 15
6: 18
5.5: 11
5: 5
4.5: 4
4: 7
3.5: 4
3: 1
2.5: 6
2: 4
1.5: 3
1: 1
And nothing below 1.

That gives us an average of 6.19. Pretty good! That might seem low, but if were treating 5 as average, the overall crop is above average. Also, I really really liked the songs at the top, so yay :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V_3X_4XLapMh8KL1EeknlbAHUQUZoRsMAtYWiYLM-j0/edit#gid=0
Heres a spreadsheet that has:
  • a sheet with every nom, with link, nominator, and composer(s) (thank Mycro for that!)
  • a blank sheet where Ill post the songs as they fall
  • a separate sheet with columns for nominators; songs will also be posted here as they fall, but there will be stats for average placement and rating per nominator


I think thats it. I just want to say again how pleased I am at the quality of the nominations. Not just quality diversity too. I honestly didnt know what to expect but I was seriously worried Id have to crap on everything. But this was good stuff! Thanks everyone. :)

Onward we go, to Pokemontown!

...but first, a small detour.
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pyresword
02/08/20 7:19:47 PM
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tag
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SuperbVEVO
02/08/20 7:21:36 PM
#3:


Hype!!!!
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banshiryuu
02/08/20 7:22:25 PM
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yesssss i'm ready
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rwlh
02/08/20 7:26:39 PM
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I thought it might be fun to do brief writeups on three songs I already knew that didnt make the cut, just to see where theyd fall. This might give you some predictors of my taste. (Or it might confuse you. I have very broad taste.) So here are three songs nobody (except me) cared enough about to talk about!

Pokmon Platinum - Distortion World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FOQK2M9jAo
Rating: 9/10

A nice combination of creepy ambience and bombastic fanfare. Very stately. I honestly thought this one would get nommed.

Pokmon Super Mystery Dungeon - Tree of Life: Roots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo5IRUjNaEA
Rating: 8/10

Really lovely piece, but also very foreboding. Its got that nice Celtic/Gust Sound Team feel that this board seems to love so much. I love how it shifts and moves around, like its not content to sit back and do one thing.

Pokemon Pinball - Blue Field: "Catch Em Mode"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSlYg060N0c
Rating: 7.5/10

Super catchy, very fun chiptune from a game nobody even nominated anything from! I mean, we got two songs from a Pico game (!), but nobody has any love for this GBC soundtrack. For shame.

Okay, now onward to the actual rankings!
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Underleveled
02/08/20 7:27:12 PM
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pyresword
02/08/20 7:28:46 PM
#7:


Let it be known that I also nominated Pokemon Trading Card Game - Normal Duel.

I guess we didn't catch that it was nominated by 2 people :/
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rwlh
02/08/20 7:31:08 PM
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pyresword posted...
Let it be known that I also nominated Pokemon Trading Card Game - Normal Duel.

I guess we didn't catch that it was nominated by 2 people :/

Yeah, I didn't catch the dupe until the first listenthrough.

Oh hey, glad you're here!

1/10
138.
Pokmon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire - Littleroot Town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52zzTF5sFTI
@pyresword
Go Ichinose arr. Shota Kageyama

I said above that I have very broad taste, but one of the consistencies is I normally dislike what I would call happy town music. Pastoral themes about lazy small town life make my skin crawl. This is the only song to earn the prestigious 1/10 rating, but if you nominated a song like this, maybe you ought to keep the topic handy for the next few posts. >_>
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-hotdogturtle--
02/08/20 7:32:05 PM
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Tag

Wow, if I had been in the nomination topic I probably would have posted Distortion World if I saw that nobody else had done it.

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pyresword
02/08/20 7:37:32 PM
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I was only one zero off of the 10/10!
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rwlh
02/08/20 7:38:30 PM
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137.
Pokmon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald - Ever Grande City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPWuD97ZkM0
@loweffortmemes
Go Ichinose

More happy town music. This one at least has a fun kind of sprightly beat to it, so it places a rung higher.

136.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - Battle! (Steven)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOt62NK6nw4
@NowItsAngeTime
Junichi Masuda arr. Soshi Abe

Another pet peeve of mine is music is loud guitars. This arrangement is so busy, with so much going on, that I feel like Im being swallowed up by guitars. Not my idea of a good time.

135.
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Victory Road (Pokmon Ruby / Pokmon Sapphire)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMNrEyzFqQo
@Arti
Go Ichinose arr. Motoi Sakuraba

Another guitar-centric Smash arrangement. This might have placed in the bottom if it werent for that nifty proggy UFO-type section near the loop. Thats fun. The rest is not my thing.
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Underleveled
02/08/20 7:44:08 PM
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TC hates RSE confirmed

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rwlh
02/08/20 7:48:28 PM
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2/10
134.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - The Battle at the Summit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uOOrMCtpOg
@NowItsAngeTime
Go Ichinose, Junichi Masuda arr. Shota Kageyama

smaaaaaash

I like the beginning with the classic theme, but then it loses me when it gets loud and mashes together a bunch of instruments. This one isnt quite as bad as the other Smash arrangements so far, but it has a key change I really dislike, so that knocks a few points off.

133.
Pokmon Gold/Silver/Crystal - Route 26/27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1KBQTGSDFA
@FL81
Go Ichinose

I was actually pleasantly surprised by some of the chiptunes nominated, since my experience with Pokemon chip was somewhat underwhelming. This song, however, feels very bland to me, with not much to set it apart.

132.
Pokmon X/Y - Coumarine City
https://youtu.be/iXpURAKAmNY
@GammaDelta
Hitomi Sato

I really wanted to like this. Its got mood for days. Very evocative. But that main sax-type sample is just...not living up to its end of the bargain for me. Kind of a shame this one has potential, but I cant get behind the main instruments.
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rwlh
02/08/20 7:48:42 PM
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Underleveled posted...
TC hates RSE confirmed

Hohoho, we'll see!
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cakophon
02/08/20 7:59:24 PM
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loweffortmemes
02/08/20 8:50:06 PM
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rwlh posted...
137.
Pokmon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald - Ever Grande City

Huh, so it wasn't Azalea Town towards the bottom after all! Now that I think about it, this probably is more "happy town theme" than Azalea Town is. I was wondering if that bit of a change in tone from 0:38-1:08 would be enough to make it less like that for you, but it looks like that's a no. By the way, while I'm here, I figured I'd post my scrapped song that didn't make the cut for my nomination list. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSXHrVIaMvs

I feel like this may have been up your alley, but unfortunately I didn't want to replace any of the 4 songs I had already picked at the time lol.
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Zigzagoon
02/08/20 8:58:18 PM
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Hbthebattle
02/08/20 9:14:35 PM
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Haste_2
02/09/20 12:01:15 AM
#19:


Hype!

Aw, I kinda like that version of Little Root Town. I give it 5.5/10.

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SuperbVEVO
02/09/20 8:17:03 AM
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Normally I don't really like the oras soundtrack but littleroot is pretty cool
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RyoCaliente
02/09/20 9:05:34 AM
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Why would you nominate Normal Duel when Club Master Duel is literally the best GB/GBC Pokemon theme?

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Naye745
02/09/20 9:14:07 AM
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ruby/sapphire might be my favorite pokemon soundtrack. at the very least, it feels the most distinct out of any of them tbqh

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PIayer_0
02/09/20 2:18:59 PM
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ouch coumarine really got shafted for its instruments huh

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RyoCaliente
02/09/20 3:07:02 PM
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Naye745 posted...
ruby/sapphire might be my favorite pokemon soundtrack. at the very least, it feels the most distinct out of any of them tbqh

I like the RSE soundtrack a lot, but I would put DPPt just a tad above.

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GavsEvans123
02/09/20 4:33:35 PM
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rwlh posted...


I said above that I have very broad taste, but one of the consistencies is I normally dislike what I would call happy town music. Pastoral themes about lazy small town life make my skin crawl.


I considered nominating Accumula Town because of the Furret walking meme, but now I'm glad I didn't!
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rwlh
02/09/20 7:03:37 PM
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131.
Pokmon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum - Hearthome City (Day)
https://youtu.be/t03CRBZS7p8
@Haste_2
Hitomi Sato

More happy town music, but this also feels like GAMBLING and CHRISTMAS, which is a nifty combination. I still dont like it but its a notch above the prior happy town themes (note that I dont actually know if plays in a happy town or not).

2.5/10
130.
Pokmon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky - Memories Returned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS4kljcJ-fw
@PIayer_0
Arata Iiyoshi, Hideki Sakamoto, Keisuke Ito, Ryoma Nakamura, Ken-ichi Saito

I can take or leave emotive songs like this. I either seem to really like them or they miss the mark with me. This one just feels very plain. A song like this I need a strong connection to, and nothing about this really grabs me. Though I do appreciate that it does a bunch of different things.

129.
Pokmon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald - Route 120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzec20s-FlU
@Dragon66116
Morikazu Aoki

..wow maybe I dont like RSE lol

I dont remember having specific objection to the infamous RSE trumpets, but this song is very discordant in kind of an unpleasant way. I like the triumphant nature but the samples really hold it back.
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Zigzagoon
02/09/20 7:08:22 PM
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Noooo my Route 120 :(((((

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rwlh
02/09/20 7:13:26 PM
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128.
Pokmon Card Game: How To Play DS - Card Battle 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQDT_wKaBUg
@Flamander
unknown

Another song here spoiled by weird instruments, in this case that warbly porbly main sample. I find it really obnoxious. If this songs melody werent stronger, this would probably be bottom three; as it is, its very catchy!

127.
Pokmon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald - Abandoned Ship
https://youtu.be/rd1Xm1s3Tu4
@banshiryuu
Morikazu Aoki

More RSE! I honestly didnt notice how many RSE and RSE-related songs are at the bottom of the list. Too funny. This feels like happy town music if happy town music were also weird exploration but also carnival music, and that sounds way more awesome than it actually is.

126.
Pokmon Gold/Silver/Crystal - Credits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU263Ud3LM4
@Underleveled
Go Ichinose

I tend to like chiptunes more, on average, than non-chiptune VGM. But I also feel like Im harder on chiptunes as a result. Also, if you havent noticed, I can be somewhat picky when it comes to instruments/samples. What Im saying is this is a bit too plain (and a bit too shrill) for me to really like it. I do genuinely like the ending (the ending of Credits lmao); thats pretty cool.
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-hotdogturtle--
02/09/20 7:22:38 PM
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GSC credits is generally overrated in comparison to the rest of the game's soundtrack.

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Underleveled
02/09/20 8:01:50 PM
#30:


Aww man, disappointed to see that so low. Really one of my favorite VGMs. That key change.

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RyoCaliente
02/10/20 12:57:16 PM
#31:


I love all the pastoral town music btw. Accumula, Lilycove,...I gobble that shit up.

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Naye745
02/10/20 2:00:36 PM
#32:


gsc credits music is fine but honestly every credits theme (even the good ones) just pales in comparison to rse's. what a goddamn masterpiece

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Naye745
02/10/20 2:06:34 PM
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honestly even just listening to the songs youve posted so far from RSE reminds me of how absolutely stellar that soundtrack is

i'm curious what is actually going to end up high on this list when these are all so low tbqh!!

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DireKrow
02/10/20 2:37:28 PM
#34:


Rwlh wanted me to post this here, so...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19qn2RJET76nIw6ZhBgNjkQJOg06Ht_VvcUqhzm1MYq4/edit?usp=sharing

Back when the thread first closed, I went ahead and ranked all of the songs myself. There won't be any writeups, but I'll reveal where each song would have ranked for me on this spreadsheet as it drops from rwlh's rank

Very different order so far
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Haste_2
02/10/20 4:36:20 PM
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That'll be cool to compare the two lists.

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Toxtricity
02/10/20 5:02:40 PM
#36:


I also did this right when the thread first closed so I'll just be copypasting my ranks from that track by track when rwlh posts them as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RhE9wpxx67Gyn6AGE9gqzdiVKDWxOJiZPcv91iqrzuM/edit#gid=0

- Mycro
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RyoCaliente
02/10/20 5:20:54 PM
#37:


BW credits > RSE theme imo. The RSE title theme however, that one is completely unmatched.

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rwlh
02/11/20 12:36:14 PM
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125.
Pokmon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky - Treasure Town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NGcVkm0Y3U
@xx521xx (won't let me ping you for some reason so I hope you're following the topic!)
Arata Iiyoshi, Hideki Sakamoto, Keisuke Ito, Ryoma Nakamura, Ken-ichi Saito

Lets all gather round the Celtic campfire! This song is a bit too slow-paced for me I think Id like it more with a more lively tempo. Its a bit too soothing for me to really get invested in it.

3/10
124.
Pokmon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald - Battle! Frontier Brain
https://youtu.be/U730ft9yESk
@SuperbVEVO
Go Ichinose

More RSE!!!!! This song just doesnt really interest me. Even when it changes up around 1:15, it still doesnt grab me at all. Again, I dont really mind the RSE trumpets, thats not why this song is so low. I think it would be low even with better samples.

Also let me just say that a character named Pyramid King Brandon is pretty great.

3.5/10
123.
Pokmon Card GB2 - GR Fort Leader Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IlEZyiegBM
@Arti
Ichiro Shimakura

The Pokemon Card soundtracks are exactly the sort of thing Id expect myself to like: obscure, unique-sounding chiptunes. But I have a hard time getting into a lot of the songs. The melody here feels kind of plodding and the chip samples give it this unpleasant, grungy-ass quality. Not really a fan.
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SuperbVEVO
02/11/20 12:40:18 PM
#39:


Aw man, frontier brain is my all time favourite rse song
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rwlh
02/11/20 12:43:44 PM
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122.
Pokmon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire - Battle! Rival
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPbl6o9mGEs
@paulg235
Junichi Masuda arr. Minako Adachi

Before this topic, when I thought of Pokemon music, this was the stereotype in my head: mostly interchangeable battle themes that all seemed to have the same sort of driving energy behind them. Im glad to see every song wasnt like that, but this one certainly is. There isnt really a lot I find memorable here. I almost feel like the original RSE trumpet version (which I havent heard) might be higher solely because those samples tend to make for a more memorable experience, good or bad.

121.
Pokmon Go - Go Team Rocket Map/Rocket Radar
https://youtu.be/Jwgk3mVWXIo
@Baconus_Yum
Junichi Masuda

This song screams mobile or Flash game to me. Maybe its the lower-quality recording that feels like someone put a speaker next to their phone. This has a nice beat but apart from that its pretty unexceptional to me.

120.
Pocket Monsters Advanced Generation: Hiragana Katakana Kakechatta! - Page 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Y0OdNgAts
@Fluttershy_Pony
unknown

I was really really torn on this. Its so catchy, way catchier than probably most of the other nominations. But its also...kind of annoying? Like I remember what it sounds like, but Im also not necessarily happy about that, lol. Its very bubblegummy poppy, which isnt inherently a bad thing, but its not something Ill keep coming back to again.
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Zigzagoon
02/11/20 1:05:49 PM
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Treasure Town noooooo :(

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PIayer_0
02/11/20 1:11:38 PM
#42:


Zigzagoon posted...
Treasure Town noooooo :(

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Hbthebattle
02/11/20 1:36:24 PM
#43:


Zigzagoon posted...
Treasure Town noooooo :(

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rwlh
02/11/20 1:41:59 PM
#44:


i can't stop listening to page 5

send help
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rwlh
02/11/20 2:47:39 PM
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4/10
119.
Pokmon HeartGold/SoulSilver - Lugia Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOg2wd18ifI
@UF8
Go Ichinose

Now were getting into songs I dont actively dislike all that much, but rather songs that are just sort of there in varying degrees. This song feels like another standard battle theme, even though it does have elements I like, like how scattered and all over the place things feel (in a good way). But the overall package falls short for me.

118.
Pokmon Black/White - Relic Castle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2N_SxWocQ
@GammaDelta
Shota Kageyama

This whole song sounds weirdly off-key. Thats kind of neat, but its also really disorienting too. Listening to this song is like walking sideways inside the Tunnel of Love while swans caw at you (happy Valentines Day!).

117.
Pokmon Sun/Moon - Battle (Gladion)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3R_4d1s6CA
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Go Ichinose

This song is the epitome of a 4 for me: it doesnt really do anything super bad, more like a bunch of uninteresting things, but nothing really grabs me. I will say I dont love the instruments used here, but apart from that everything is basically fine.
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NBIceman
02/11/20 2:51:02 PM
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Suck it, Lugia, Ho-oh wins again.

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DireKrow
02/11/20 2:56:41 PM
#47:


Well two of my top 8s are out already. Not a surprise though, rwlh and I have infamously opposite taste in VGM
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Hbthebattle
02/11/20 3:08:34 PM
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Dang, Gladion's is one I really like
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rwlh
02/11/20 3:14:01 PM
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116.
Pokmon Black 2/White 2 - Battle! (Colress)
https://youtu.be/S1DWNsV2rYA
deo
Hitomi Sato

Another song Im surprised I dont like more. There are actually a number of noms that have this crystally type sound, which Im generally not a huge fan of? I do like the overall energy and how it feels like Im on a conveyor belt getting my barcode scanned beep boop but yeah, the presentation isnt my favorite in the world.

115.
Pokmon Sun/Moon - Iki Town (Night)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6zrDxwjYEE
TheCodeisBosco
Minako Adachi

Pokemon Unplugged~ This is a very emotive acoustic guitar-centered piece thats also a bit cheesy. This isnt inherently a bad thing, but in general it makes me feel less connected to the song. It almost feels like its taking the easy route with pushing my emotional buttons.

114.
Pokmon Gold/Silver/Crystal - Rival Battle Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjGgfZ8JkyA
Zigzagoon
Junichi Masuda

Slight spoiler: I was impressed by some of the GSC songs in this. This, however, wasnt one of them. It feels pretty firmly in that Pokemon battle theme archetype I mentioned before. I do like the bit before the loop though, that sort of desperate-sounding section.
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Zigzagoon
02/11/20 3:15:28 PM
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