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PerfectChaosZ
02/17/20 7:47:19 PM
#201:


Jesus
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Corrik7
02/17/20 7:48:41 PM
#202:


https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1229539908487958528?s=20

Numbers are dropping. It might be contained.

There was more international new cases than mainland China cases outside of Hubei for the first time today also.

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foolm0r0n
02/17/20 9:55:15 PM
#203:


handsomeboy2012 posted...
You are aware of the difference between absolute numbers and percentages right, the 40k deaths are like 0.1% while this coronovirus has around 2.5% so it's at least 25 times deadlier, of course it is worrisome, this is like elementary level mathematics
Last I checked there are 0 deaths outside China, which would make it 0%. I'm not a poor rural Chinese person, so I'm gonna go with the 0% moreso than the 2.5%. This is like middle school math so let me know if it's too hard for you to follow.

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foolm0r0n
02/17/20 10:00:49 PM
#204:


Corrik7 posted...
The reason this is an interest to some is that it is a viral outbreak that doesn't happen very often
It's gotta be every 3ish years at least. Sars, swine, avian, what else? They're all coronaviruses. And so is the yearly flu, so this IS already the flu topic.

I realize the unknowns about this are what make it scary but 90% of the fear is the media and you need to realize that too.

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Corrik7
02/17/20 10:20:16 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Last I checked there are 0 deaths outside China, which would make it 0%. I'm not a poor rural Chinese person, so I'm gonna go with the 0% moreso than the 2.5%. This is like middle school math so let me know if it's too hard for you to follow.
And you are wrong.

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handsomeboy2012
02/17/20 10:31:44 PM
#206:


foolm0r0n posted...
Last I checked there are 0 deaths outside China, which would make it 0%. I'm not a poor rural Chinese person

There are deaths in Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, France and the Philippines, it's not exactly 0 deaths outside China.

The source of the virus Wuhan is a big city a population of around 11 million, so it doesn't only kill poor rural Chinese people

The point of all of this is preventing this thing from spreading everywhere like the flu. Just because it hasn't happened yet (it is already spreading in my city btw) doesn't mean it absolutely won't.
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Corrik7
02/17/20 11:51:03 PM
#207:


Where you from, handsomeboy2012?

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handsomeboy2012
02/17/20 11:59:45 PM
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Corrik7
02/18/20 12:11:42 AM
#209:


Hope you stay safe my friend.

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handsomeboy2012
02/18/20 12:15:36 AM
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I think it'll be fine, my company told everyone to work from home and I don't have to go out very often. Boring as fuck though, and it will seriously impact my future plans if it doesn't go away in 2 months
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Corrik7
02/18/20 12:15:52 AM
#211:


Get some gaming in!

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foolm0r0n
02/18/20 1:45:54 AM
#212:


handsomeboy2012 posted...
There are deaths in Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, France and the Philippines, it's not exactly 0 deaths outside China.
Only the Japan and Phillipines ones seem to really count as outside China but ok, there are actually a couple outside deaths. People were going nuts well before that so I don't think it matters much to them, but it does help me be a little less dismissive.

I get that containing it is good but my point is that doesn't mean all the hysteria around it (esp nonsense like wearing masks and avoiding chinese restaurants) automatically makes sense.

I was also just in the Phillipines and HK in January, and literally got the flu there. If that was this virus then I'm immune already. I can just sit back and watch now.

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Corrik7
02/18/20 1:47:56 AM
#213:


foolm0r0n posted...
Only the Japan and Phillipines ones seem to really count as outside China but ok, there are actually a couple outside deaths. People were going nuts well before that so I don't think it matters much to them, but it does help me be a little less dismissive.

I get that containing it is good but my point is that doesn't mean all the hysteria around it (esp nonsense like wearing masks and avoiding chinese restaurants) automatically makes sense.

I was also just in the Phillipines and HK in January, and literally got the flu there. If that was this virus then I'm immune already. I can just sit back and watch now.
No guarantee of being immune. You can re-catch if by accounts. And it is more likely to be fatal the second time around as it causes lung damage, making you more susceptible the 2nd time.

That said, doubtful that is what you had.

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Kinglicious
02/18/20 1:50:04 AM
#214:


Supposedly it can also make you infertile too. Though more information needed there.

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Corrik7
02/18/20 1:54:00 AM
#215:


I haven't heard that.

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Corrik7
02/18/20 1:56:25 AM
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https://www.worldofbuzz.com/researchers-coronavirus-may-attack-testicular-tissue-leave-men-infertile-after-infection/

So I see where you are getting it from. The virus by all accounts when serious attacks a multitude of organs, so I guess that could be a possibility. We will see as time goes on.

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Corrik7
02/18/20 1:58:03 AM
#217:


https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1229620937219362821?s=20

Wtf in addition to this, a health official in jungzhao? Spelling has died of a heart attack after working *25 days straight nonstop*. Who the hell would work someone that much. That's insane.

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5tarscream
02/18/20 2:57:34 AM
#218:


Youd be surprised. There are a lot of doctors and nurses in Wuhan that have worked weeks on end with only a few hours sleep a day. They clearly dont have the medical knowledge that foolmo has that this is actually nothing and everyone should just go about their business as normal

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Corrik7
02/18/20 8:24:09 AM
#219:


https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1229755413714866178?s=20

Japan having a lot of issues with Taxi Drivers being infected. This is the 2nd or third and of course their high volume of randoms can cause spreads easier.

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foolm0r0n
02/18/20 9:04:23 AM
#220:


5tarscream posted...
They clearly dont have the medical knowledge that foolmo has that this is actually nothing
50k+ deaths is not nothing, just because you don't care about it every other year

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Corrik7
02/18/20 9:15:42 AM
#221:


Imagine being so pathetic of a person that you are literally trolling in a health crisis topic.

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Tom Bombadil
02/18/20 10:07:55 AM
#222:


now I'm seeing a bunch of conspiracies about this being a US-developed bio attack

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5tarscream
02/18/20 10:35:26 AM
#223:


It was originally a Chinese bio weapon that was accidentally activated and they let it run its course just to see. People are weird

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Kinglicious
02/18/20 10:49:37 AM
#224:


Chinese bioweapon makes more sense for conspiracy theories just because of Chinese labs being in the area. Hell there's a paper from a university in South China that said it could've been made in a research facility a few hundred feet away.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8009669/amp/Did-coronavirus-originate-Chinese-government-laboratory.html

At least there's some legs on that one. How true ultimately, no idea, but a plausible accident? Sure.

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5tarscream
02/18/20 11:35:02 AM
#225:


Theres a research facility a few hundred feet away? Are you sure?

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5tarscream
02/18/20 11:36:59 AM
#226:


Ohhh I see where it is now. Interesting news I was literally at the cdc for my health heck in November a week or two before the first confirmed case. Interesting.

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Corrik7
02/18/20 12:04:07 PM
#227:


Tom Bombadil posted...
now I'm seeing a bunch of conspiracies about this being a US-developed bio attack
The initial conspiracy is that it was a Wuhan University virus they were working on that leaked. Whether bio weapon or just for research reasons.

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Corrik7
02/18/20 9:37:39 PM
#228:


https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1229939331730681856

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1229896648765181952

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1229890821203398656

Some new updates but the gist is... over 1000 cases outside of China now. A 2nd death in Hong Kong. The smaller death number indicating a peak seems to be wrong as the deaths jumped back up to 130+ in Hubei today.

Diamond Princess quarantine deemed a failure and experts aren't exactly sure why, though I personally think the reasoning is kind of obvious myself.

And Russia bars entry for Chinese to their country.

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5tarscream
02/19/20 7:31:57 AM
#229:


Could be worse could be a flu outbreak right? I get out of quarantine in 4 days.

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Corrik7
02/19/20 12:34:44 PM
#230:


In a midday update before numbers release.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-iran/two-iranians-die-after-testing-positive-for-coronavirus-official-idUSKBN20D1HN?il

Iran has 2 cases and both died. Which begs the question of how many countries are missing these infections by not testing preemptively.

A lot of countries are being exposed for poorly handling this. Some people were exposed and caught covid-19 due to having infected and non-infected in the same hospital rooms.


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Corrik7
02/19/20 4:53:02 PM
#231:


Inovio stock lost 10% since yesterday. Lol

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SwiftyDC
02/19/20 7:17:43 PM
#232:


I ended up taking my bid out before market opened. Coworker talked me out of it.

TSLA keeps going up.

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Corrik7
02/19/20 7:22:40 PM
#233:


I dunno what tsla is, but I did see some Texas based organization said they 3d mapped the virus which will help them get a vaccine made.

Oh duh tesla

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pjbasis
02/19/20 8:01:21 PM
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Corrik7
02/19/20 8:07:17 PM
#235:


pjbasis posted...
Why is it called the coronavirus anyway.

https://medicineworldcouncil.com/health-news/coronavirus-explained-why-is-it-called-coronavirus-what-does-corona-mean/

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pjbasis
02/19/20 8:15:43 PM
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Corrik7
02/19/20 8:34:24 PM
#237:


https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1230260100822175745?s=20

Only a few hundred new cases. That's good news.

South Korea has 54 new cases today though. And diamond princess passengers are starting to get seriously ill.

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Corrik7
02/20/20 2:52:29 AM
#238:


Low new cases was due to new methodology for testing for it. They now all require nucleic acid positives. These results take a little while to receive.

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handsomeboy2012
02/20/20 5:04:59 AM
#239:


What the fuck lol
Apparently this was how they do 'quarantine' on Diamond Princess
https://twitter.com/Gfx9527/status/1230350280664834048

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handsomeboy2012
02/20/20 5:09:54 AM
#240:


'Left: Clean route; Right: Unclean route'
except it looks like this after you pass through the doors
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Corrik7
02/20/20 6:08:22 AM
#241:


handsomeboy2012 posted...
What the fuck lol
Apparently this was how they do 'quarantine' on Diamond Princess
https://twitter.com/Gfx9527/status/1230350280664834048

The tweet (by an official) was deleted quickly but people already caught on
I can't read it but the quarantine was broken multiple times. They let infected and non-infected frequent the same areas and had open eating areas and etc. Now, a lot of that was due to people just doing it because they were freaking out they were quarantined but still.

Now, just using my brain here... I think the quarantine was always doomed to fail.

Let's just assume the incubation time is 10 days so 14 days is 4 days overkill. The quarantine still could never work because people aren't all going to get it day 1. They are likely getting it staggered. So if anyone got the virus day 6, the quarantine is dead anyways as day 15 and 16, a couple days after the quarantine ends, they are still spreading.

Never understood the quarantine imposed there. They never knew who had the disease. Imposed a quarantine that quarantined them together which let transmission continue between them and they would never actually get quarantined until either everyone had it and then we t past transmission time (assuming it can't re-infect which reports say it can).

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Wanglicious
02/20/20 6:17:43 AM
#242:


the boat itself is a quarantine, far as i'm concerned they're basically a live experiment for us to get some data. not intentionally so but that's just what it's become and everyone who could do anything knows it. how fast does it infect to a point where visible effects are seen, let's find out. how long until someone dies with some water and medicine, let's find out.

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Corrik7
02/20/20 6:32:59 AM
#243:


Wanglicious posted...
the boat itself is a quarantine, far as i'm concerned they're basically a live experiment for us to get some data. not intentionally so but that's just what it's become and everyone who could do anything knows it. how fast does it infect to a point where visible effects are seen, let's find out. how long until someone dies with some water and medicine, let's find out.
The boat can never be successfully quarantined until 14 days after the last person contracts the virus though. Lol.

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Wanglicious
02/20/20 6:45:11 AM
#244:


right.
it's also where we're going to test the idea of re-catching the disease. so far i don't think that's been 100% confirmed, just speculated and stated. if it's true, well, whoops.

i already was offput by them but now i never want to go on a cruise.

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foolm0r0n
02/20/20 7:59:52 AM
#245:


Corrik7 posted...
Imagine being so pathetic of a person that you are literally trolling in a health crisis topic.
Sorry I interrupted your super sensitive conspiracy theories and stock market speculation discussion

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Leafeon13N
02/20/20 8:02:10 AM
#246:


Cruises are great and events like this make prices tank.

But yeah always load up on hand sanitizer and wash and clean thoroughly on one. They are absolutely disease breeding grounds. Came down with an irritating cold on my last one.
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MZero11
02/20/20 8:04:14 AM
#247:


Can't find masks anywhere in Japan for the last month or so

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handsomeboy2012
02/20/20 8:05:28 AM
#248:


https://note.com/chocolat_psyder/n/n118cd46c1336

Seems like there's more to this.

A professor made a video about how the government is doing a poor job about the ship. A high-ranking official accused him of stirring up trouble and he removed the video after facing public pressure.

Then the same official tweeted that pic which proved what the professor said was true.
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Corrik7
02/20/20 8:26:34 AM
#249:


The one Japanese medical doctor or professor or whatever did a meeting feed from a disclosed secret location because he was getting shit for what he was saying.

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SwiftyDC
02/20/20 8:43:12 PM
#250:


I read somewhere that people were eating food... with their gloves on.


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