Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 494: But The Stock Is Up!

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Steiner posted...

I generally agree with that but raw is so long I kinda want two longer matches, but the real answer is to cut an hour off raw

Definitely agree on both points here. If you HAVE to run a three hour show, then two longer matches (maybe a third depending on the situation) is perfectly fine.

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I really don't think you can do a two-hour wrestling show long-term without doing at least one pretty long match per show. Trying to keep everything short and sweet is all well and good, but that's how you get to the point of overexposing talent and giving away too many matchups.

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all segments need to be exactly 6 minutes for maximum TEW efficiency

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I dont mind AEW doing commercial breaks with small screen showing the match.

The inner circle sign gimmick is the best use of that though.

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What I enjoy about Raw's setup recently is BECAUSE they like no logjam of stars in midcard and main event (at least like before), they have kind of forced in some squash match format since the draft. Or at least spaced out fued opponents a (tiny) bit more.

You still have the Andrade Rey/Carillo overkill, but Black and Murphy had a minifeud going where they were kept to at most 1-2 matches.

That is an old school build mentality that is slowly peeking through.

You still have a shit ton of 50/50 "stars" but I will take Rowan randomly meandering if he is kinda off on an island away from AJ/Orton/McIntyre

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Maniac64 posted...

I dont mind AEW doing commercial breaks with small screen showing the match.

With no sound and like 20% of the screen I don't care for it.

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So I guess we can count Matt Hardy among those who want out of WWE now.

Reby has stated that Vince refuses to listen to Matt Hardy's ideas. And now there's a giant thing on his YouTube called Free the Delete. So I guess he's ready to get out too.

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Yeah hes been saying hes leaving all year

I wanna say hes out on 3/1
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Don't know if I'm late here, but "Buddy" Murphy is getting the name wipe treatment.

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What? Murphy? Like of Gunner and Murphy, now?

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Yep. Just Murphy.

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IIRC it got shortened in NXT too but then got the Buddy back when he moved to 205 Live
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Jakyl25 posted...

IIRC it got shortened in NXT too but then got the Buddy back when he moved to 205 Live

Yup, Blake and Murphy both got their names shortened when they were the Dubstep Cowboys.

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...well, Fiend's title run started in Saudi Arabia, so it's only appropriate that it also ends there >_>

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Im enjoying Punk on Twitter mocking the fact that the announcers are not allowed to mention him being on Backstage next week
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I might be missing a few, but last time I checked, the following wrestlers have won a world title in 3 different decades

Flair
Hogan
Sting
Big Show
HHH
Rock
Goldberg

Goldberg could be the first to do it in 4 different decades.

Note: Taker, Lesnar, and Jericho came close, but technically carried a world title into a new decade. Kane was close too, but the ECW title's normally not considered a world championship.

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ZeroSignal620 posted...

Note: Taker, Lesnar, and Jericho came close, but technically carried a world title into a new decade.

Verne Gagne and Bob Backlund would also be in this category
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lmao WHAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4vla140LEM

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Yay, Larry Steve made it into the video!

Alexa has always been a Bowling For Soup fan

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/oFxbk
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That would be a creepy song if not for the fact that she clearly signed off on it and is cool with it.

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Alexa has a boyfriend and it's not me. Sad news

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Wrestler of the Week, Week 5 - Jan 31-Feb 6

5. Rhea Ripley
The last thing Rhea did this week nearly entirely removed her from this list, which was deliver a hokey "we. are. nxt." line. Especially frustrating as a character like Ripley should feel bigger than a brand, and there's no reason for her to be friendly with Bianca before their match. That said,I still thought Rhea's stock continued to rise this week, as she looks to be entering in a program with the linchpin of the women's division for Wrestlemania, which does a lot to legitimize both her and the NXT Championships as something a Rumble winner would challenge for.

4. Ricochet
Since Paul Heyman took over Raw, it's been evident that he has three pet projects - Drew McIntyre, Aleister Black, and Ricochet. That continued to come together in the Royal Rumble, as Drew and Ricochet were the chosen two to finally overcome Brock, which - along with Ricochet having an angle with Brock the week before the Rumble - you had to figure was going to pay off in a match down the line, and we took the next step there this week with Ricochet getting the win over two of the most featured guys on Raw this year and setting up a match with Lesnar that should continue his streak of having great matches with smaller guys.

3. Zack Sabre Jr.
Zack not only had a predictably great match with Will Ospreay where, at least in my eyes, Zack clearly looked the star of the match, and in forcing Will to work Zack's style of match, gave you another compelling side to Ospreay's game we don't usually see and kept the match feeling fresh - he also, less predictably, retained the British Heavyweight Title in doing so. The two would go on to be the final two in a fun elimination tag a few nights later, where Ospreay would get a pin on Sabre setting up a rematch next weekend in London, where Will can finally save BritWres.

2. Robbie Eagles
This time period covers 5 matches for Eagles - first, in two nights in Sapporo he steals the show in a pair of undercard tags that deliver at a level higher than you usually see in that spot on a New Japan card, and gets the win over BUSHI with the Ron Miller Special in both matches. He would go on to three nights at Korakuen in similar tags, and while he would drop a fall to Hiromu (who Robbie already has a win over from his return match) on night 1, he'd get another win over DOUKI on night 2 leading tohis challenge, alongside CHAOS stablemates Ishii and Goto, for the NEVER 6-man titles against the LIJ team of BUSHi, EVIL and Shingo. Robbie put up a herculean effort, as he had all 5 nights, in what might be the best NEVER 6 man title match to date, but just falls short to BUSHI with the mist. Robbie managed to stand out in every one of these matches, which is impressive when you're in with talent like Hiromu, Ryu Lee, Shingo, Ishii and Goto every night, but my God this week has me excited for what Eagles is going to do in 2020.

1. Shingo Takagi
Still, for every how excited I am about Eagles in 2020, it's a man on the other side of most of those matches who has me most excited now. Shingo would begin the week by capturing the NEVER Openweight Title from Hirooki Goto in an awesome match, then delivering a promo setting up 4 challengers for his new title, including a confrontation with SHO which brings flashbacks to their BOSJ opening night match last year. It looks like Ishii will be his first challenger, and there's potentially another match with Goto or even a match with Eagles down the line - plus, I seem to remember Will Ospreay being pretty caught up in that NEVER scene last year - perhaps he might take interest in the Dragon again. How can you not be excited about Shingo's year with just that list of possibilities?


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Steiner posted...

The last thing Rhea did this week nearly entirely removed her from this list, which was deliver a hokey "we. are. nxt." line. Especially frustrating as a character like Ripley should feel bigger than a brand

WWE learning the lesson of "the brand is the star" not working on the main roster is to try it again on NXT.

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RPGlord95 posted...

Alexa has a boyfriend and it's not me. Sad news

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https://youtu.be/J3A37fibZ9Y

Otis for Universal Champion.

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Im down for that

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New Japan announces Wrestle Dynasty at Madison Square Garden, August 22
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New Beginning was a great show, Ryu Lee and Hiromu had another MOTYC, a match I think I slightly preferred to the Ospreay match last month, and Suzuki and Moxley had one of my favourite brawls I've ever seen. Main event wasn't good but not great until the last few moments where Naito popped a huge gusher after hitting an exposed turnbuckle and finished the match with an impressive crimson mask

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Heard it reported in multiple places today that the iiconics have been removed from television until they no longer suck really bad
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Good.

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Steiner posted...

Heard it reported in multiple places today that the iiconics have been removed from television until they no longer suck really bad

so forever

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WWE superfan Steiner on top of the scoops

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I would rather watch an Iconics match where they attempt to do anything in WWE that isn't the cookie cutter same ol' same ol' that most WWE matches are nowadays.

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I seem to recall a time where Peyton wasn't wretched but Billy was always horrible.

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I had to look up NXT Women's title reigns because Bayley is officially the first and only Women's Grand Slam Champion (Raw, SD, NXT, and Women's Tag) in history.

The following only need one more title to join her
Sasha (SD)
Charlotte (Tag)
Asuka (Raw)
Alexa (NXT)

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https://youtu.be/1z0DESio1LM

This is too well made

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https://twitter.com/TomNewton2104/status/1213809037361532933

God damn

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Raw was apparently good again.

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AEW: 811,000, .30 in the demos.
NXT: 757,000, .24 in the demos.

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The AEW womens title was already to small, but when Nyla is carrying it the thing just looks like a kids replica belt.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzkHzBot4h4

"Alright, smart ass..."
"Beautiful man, this isn't a time for compliments."

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Show of hands - what would everyone rather see at WM for the Universal Title:

Fiend vs Reigns
Goldberg vs Reigns

The plan supposedly is still Fiend vs Reigns, but Goldbergs SD segment really spiked ratings compared to every other segment on the show
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Can I write in Goldberg vs Fiend

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Thats happening already

You want to see it twice?
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Jakyl25 posted...

Show of hands - what would everyone rather see at WM for the Universal Title:

Fiend vs Reigns
Goldberg vs Reigns

The plan supposedly is still Fiend vs Reigns, but Goldbergs SD segment really spiked ratings compared to every other segment on the show

The choice I saw presented was :
Cena vs Fiend
Roman vs Goldberg

Or

Cena vs Goldberg
Roman vs Fiend
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Oh seriously. Neat. Well Reigns vs Goldberg for sure.

Make the matches go 4 minutes combined total let's have some more 50 year old man squashes

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Lopen posted...

let's have some more 50 year old man squashes

i now present to you aj styles vs the undertaker in a match where you're going to hear the word "phenomenal" approximately 1700 times


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I don't want to see Reigns at all what do I vote for.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I don't want to see Reigns at all what do I vote for.

Vs goldberg should be a shorter match so that's less Reigns.

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