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DarkRoast
01/22/20 6:47:58 PM
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I know Razers are overpriced, but she's very much into style and substance and she's into thin and lights.

In any case...

Razer Blade 15
Core i7 9th Gen w/ 240 Hz 1080p display
RTX 2080 Max-Q 8 GB
16 GB RAM
512 GB SSD

Normally it's $2,999 but it's $500 off for $2,499
I would've paid the extra $200 for the OLED model ($3,299) but it never seems to go on sale, so the same computer for either $2,499 or $3,299... it's hard to justify the OLED one.


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Tyranthraxus
01/22/20 6:49:46 PM
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1. When did you get married?

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DarkRoast posted...
I know Razers are overpriced

So long as you know what you're getting into $2,499 doesn't sound bad for all of that.

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DarkRoast
01/22/20 6:54:18 PM
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We got married in December. A very small wedding because lesbian weddings in Oklahoma are still a bit taboo.

I still legitimately cannot believe that I went from closet bisexual to married to another girl in just a few years. I never even had a serious relationship with another girl until her.

Although her being from Ethiopia turned out to be the more interesting thing, because their customs regarding weddings and whatnot are so different from Europeans. It was a lot of fun, we had Ethiopian clothing and whatnot.

We're going to have a European-style wedding in a few months, again on the cheap. Being that I literally never wear dresses and am a tomboy, getting a wedding dress has been super awkward.

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DarkRoast
01/22/20 6:57:54 PM
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In any case, back on topic

240 Hz sure seems like overkill, but it's actually the same price for the 9th Gen i7 and 2080 Max-Q w/ 240 Hz that the 8th Gen i7, 2070 Max-Q and 144 Hz currently goes for.


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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
01/22/20 6:59:22 PM
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Well, congratulations on the nuptials. Just got hitched myself last September.

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DarkRoast
01/22/20 7:01:26 PM
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Also, after dealing with too much bigotry and all the utter BS Trump and the GOP have been up to, I de-registered Republican and registered independent. I almost registered Democrat, and might still do it, even though it'll be a while before my qualms with them are overcome.

But I cannot in good conscience support a homophobic party that is so inundated with disdain for minorities, and especially now that they're getting friendly with the anti-vaxxer crowd. They're wrong on almost every issue I care about except a handful of economic issues, and that's just not enough.

I didn't leave the party - they left me. Honestly, as much as it pains me to say it, I've probably been a Clinton Democrat all along, even though I disdain Hillary.


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DarkRoast
01/22/20 7:02:30 PM
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There's just too much misinformation and indoctrination among right-wing media (particularly talk radio and Fox News). It's disgusting. I only wish I had accepted this reality sooner.

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BuckVanHammer
01/22/20 7:08:23 PM
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id probably go msi, but i havent really dug into the razors...

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ToPoPO
01/22/20 7:10:17 PM
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No, you are.

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Tyranthraxus
01/22/20 7:17:26 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I've probably been a Clinton Democrat all along, even though I disdain Hillary.
Clinton (both of them), Obama, Biden, etc is the right wing party of the rest of the Democratic world.

AOC is basically spot on with her "America doesn't have a left wing party"

The Democrats are like a clusterfuck of 4 different parties United only in their goal that the GOP needs to be stopped and argue about everything else otherwise.

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DarkRoast
01/22/20 7:21:43 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Clinton (both of them), Obama, Biden, etc is the right wing party of the rest of the Democratic world.

AOC is basically spot on with her "America doesn't have a left wing party"

The Democrats are like a clusterfuck of 4 different parties United only in their goal that the GOP needs to be stopped and argue about everything else otherwise.

GOP being so clearly anti science and pro-supremacist is just too much

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Bloodmoon77
01/22/20 7:29:53 PM
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This topic got derailed fast.
But seriously if you want a gaming laptop dont shell out 2500 for it, that's just dumb. Build a beast desktop with that and get like a 600 dollar laptop instead. You'll see no differences. Laptops die within 5 years anyway

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DarkRoast
01/22/20 7:33:35 PM
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Bloodmoon77 posted...
This topic got derailed fast.
But seriously if you want a gaming laptop dont shell out 2500 for it, that's just dumb. Build a beast desktop with that and get like a 600 dollar laptop instead. You'll see no differences. Laptops die within 5 years anyway

We're almost never home. That's the rub with medicine. She's a PA and has a really crazy schedule and a lot of times she stays in an on call room.

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Rainbow_Dashing
01/22/20 7:33:41 PM
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Can't you just have a beast mode PC and then do like streamlink with your cheaper laptop? I do it from my phone and it often works out fine, just need a good internet connection on both ends. Yeah I play MTG arena on my phone via steam link. But you can do the same with other games and through a PC-Laptop connection. You may want to consider that avenue.

Just make sure the gaming PC has a solid upload connection and the gaming laptop has a decent internet connection and you should be all set.
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Tyranthraxus
01/22/20 7:34:59 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
We're almost never home. That's the rub with medicine. She's a PA and has a really crazy schedule and a lot of times she stays in an on call room.
Stuff like this is why I've taken up more mobile gaming.

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Johnny_Nutcase
01/22/20 7:37:12 PM
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Bloodmoon77 posted...
This topic got derailed fast.
But seriously if you want a gaming laptop dont shell out 2500 for it, that's just dumb. Build a beast desktop with that and get like a 600 dollar laptop instead. You'll see no differences. Laptops die within 5 years anyway

I agree with this except for the life of a laptop. Unless you're just talking about gaming laptops then I dunno because I have a gaming desktop.

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DarkRoast
01/22/20 7:39:28 PM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
I agree with this except for the life of a laptop. Unless you're just talking about gaming laptops then I dunno because I have a gaming desktop.

From what I understand, technology specific to gaming laptops has come a long way in the past couple of years. GPUs generate less heat relative to performance, and the laptops themselves while not price-competitive to gaming desktops, are actually relatively competitive with non-gaming laptops with similar computing specs.


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JBaLLEN66
01/22/20 7:40:33 PM
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get a desktop

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Omnislasher
01/22/20 7:41:31 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
From what I understand, technology specific to gaming laptops has come a long way in the past couple of years. GPUs generate less heat relative to performance, and the laptops themselves while not price-competitive to gaming desktops, are actually relatively competitive with non-gaming laptops with similar computing specs.
also, buy a cooling pad for twenty bucks.

Bloodmoon77 posted...
This topic got derailed fast.
But seriously if you want a gaming laptop dont shell out 2500 for it, that's just dumb. Build a beast desktop with that and get like a 600 dollar laptop instead. You'll see no differences. Laptops die within 5 years anyway
ridiculous claim about laptop lifespans and obviously some people require portability
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Bloodmoon77
01/22/20 7:55:43 PM
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Gaming laptops especially will burn out after years of use. And you cant replace the important parts. They're really not meant for the stress of high end gaming in the long run.

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Spellz2113
01/22/20 7:56:02 PM
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For that much money Id want at least a HDD as well to go along with the SSD

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HydraSlayer82
01/22/20 8:06:53 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Also, after dealing with too much bigotry and all the utter BS Trump and the GOP have been up to, I de-registered Republican and registered independent. I almost registered Democrat, and might still do it, even though it'll be a while before my qualms with them are overcome.

But I cannot in good conscience support a homophobic party that is so inundated with disdain for minorities, and especially now that they're getting friendly with the anti-vaxxer crowd. They're wrong on almost every issue I care about except a handful of economic issues, and that's just not enough.

I didn't leave the party - they left me. Honestly, as much as it pains me to say it, I've probably been a Clinton Democrat all along, even though I disdain Hillary.
The bigotry is why Im an independent as well. Im kind of in the same boat as far as Hildog. Im a never-Trumper and thats about the only thing I can say.

Also congrats on the marriage.

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Zikten
01/22/20 8:12:23 PM
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Grats on the wedding
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Machete
01/22/20 8:25:43 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
We got married in December. A very small wedding because lesbian weddings in Oklahoma are still a bit taboo.

I still legitimately cannot believe that I went from closet bisexual to married to another girl in just a few years. I never even had a serious relationship with another girl until her.

Although her being from Ethiopia turned out to be the more interesting thing, because their customs regarding weddings and whatnot are so different from Europeans. It was a lot of fun, we had Ethiopian clothing and whatnot.

We're going to have a European-style wedding in a few months, again on the cheap. Being that I literally never wear dresses and am a tomboy, getting a wedding dress has been super awkward.

Nice, congrats :)

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MrResetti
01/22/20 8:28:13 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
We got married in December. A very small wedding because lesbian weddings in Oklahoma are still a bit taboo.

I still legitimately cannot believe that I went from closet bisexual to married to another girl in just a few years. I never even had a serious relationship with another girl until her.

Although her being from Ethiopia turned out to be the more interesting thing, because their customs regarding weddings and whatnot are so different from Europeans. It was a lot of fun, we had Ethiopian clothing and whatnot.

We're going to have a European-style wedding in a few months, again on the cheap. Being that I literally never wear dresses and am a tomboy, getting a wedding dress has been super awkward.
Where the fuck did that book come from

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Master_Bass
01/22/20 8:34:36 PM
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Seems like a decent price for a Razor. I wouldn't get the OLED model because of the price and the fact that it'll probably suffer from burn in within a year or two.
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KamenRiderBlade
01/23/20 3:41:06 AM
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The problem with Razer Hardware is that they have a tendency to last just long enough to crap out right after the warranty expires.

I'm sure you've seen the stories about Razer ___ dying literally a month after the warranty goes away.

It's up to you if you want to deal with that when you're willing to spend so much money on a Gaming Thin & Light.

If you wait a few months, a lot of the AMD Thin & Lights got announced at CES.

There should be new Thin & Light gaming laptops using AMD's latest mobile parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5-k5l8aaKY

Watch a Real Taiwanese Woman lead AMD, who now holds the CPU Halo Performance Crown now, introduce brand new mobile parts that are ready to kick Intel in the Crotch repeatedly that there will be only a mud hole left.

e.g. ASUS Zephyrus G14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbLS4677D8

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KamenRiderBlade
01/23/20 3:43:43 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
We got married in December. A very small wedding because lesbian weddings in Oklahoma are still a bit taboo.

I still legitimately cannot believe that I went from closet bisexual to married to another girl in just a few years. I never even had a serious relationship with another girl until her.

Although her being from Ethiopia turned out to be the more interesting thing, because their customs regarding weddings and whatnot are so different from Europeans. It was a lot of fun, we had Ethiopian clothing and whatnot.

We're going to have a European-style wedding in a few months, again on the cheap. Being that I literally never wear dresses and am a tomboy, getting a wedding dress has been super awkward.
Congrats on your wedding!
Why did you get married in Oklahoma?
Why not in Texas?

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DarkRoast
01/24/20 5:40:25 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
The problem with Razer Hardware is that they have a tendency to last just long enough to crap out right after the warranty expires.

I'm sure you've seen the stories about Razer ___ dying literally a month after the warranty goes away.

It's up to you if you want to deal with that when you're willing to spend so much money on a Gaming Thin & Light.

If you wait a few months, a lot of the AMD Thin & Lights got announced at CES.

There should be new Thin & Light gaming laptops using AMD's latest mobile parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5-k5l8aaKY

Watch a Real Taiwanese Woman lead AMD, who now holds the CPU Halo Performance Crown now, introduce brand new mobile parts that are ready to kick Intel in the Crotch repeatedly that there will be only a mud hole left.

e.g. ASUS Zephyrus G14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbLS4677D8

I used to be big on ATI but let's be honest, they're really behind lately

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KamenRiderBlade
01/24/20 6:11:26 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I used to be big on ATI but let's be honest, they're really behind lately
Yeah, the GPU side of AMD, AKA ATi, has been behind.

But they're slowly catching up bit by bit.

Big Navi is coming this year, and it's rumored to include Ray Tracing as well to even things out along with Machine Learning.

Plus all the new Mobile GPU parts are coming, so wait till reviewers get their hands on them and test them out.

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DarkRoast
01/24/20 7:00:41 PM
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RTX 2080 Max-Q is apparently somewhere between a desktop 2060 and 2070, which is disappointing and misleading from a naming standpoint. That said, it's legitimately amazing considering it fits in laptops that would've been considered nearly Ultrabooks a decade ago.

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KamenRiderBlade
01/24/20 7:19:18 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
RTX 2080 Max-Q is apparently somewhere between a desktop 2060 and 2070, which is disappointing and misleading from a naming standpoint. That said, it's legitimately amazing considering it fits in laptops that would've been considered nearly Ultrabooks a decade ago.
That's historically been the naming perogative of all mobile GPU's. It's a industry wide issue.

That being said, the fact that that much power is in such a small and tight chasis is amazing.

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DarkRoast
01/25/20 4:54:42 PM
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It really is. A GPU that can quite literally max out every game available at 1080p above 60fps (hell, Gears 5 averages 80fps with Ultra textures and every setting on Ultra), and a lot of games right up to 4K in a 4lb aluminum unibody laptop.

It's legitimately crazy compared to how gaming laptops used to be.

That said, "Max Q" is more misleading than even other Mobile GPU configurations. Max-Q is a downclocked mobile GPU, which means theoretically it could be two steps below the desktop equivalent. But Razer supposedly clocks their Max-Q GPUs near the standard mobile variants, so that's nice.


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KamenRiderBlade
01/25/20 8:03:27 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
That said, "Max Q" is more misleading than even other Mobile GPU configurations. Max-Q is a downclocked mobile GPU, which means theoretically it could be two steps below the desktop equivalent. But Razer supposedly clocks their Max-Q GPUs near the standard mobile variants, so that's nice.
It's a bit more complicated

https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/nvidia-max-q-faq
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/max-q-definition-nvidia-graphics-cards-gpus-laptop,6339.html

But the end gist of it is that given the tiny volume constraints and limited cooling capacity, it gives you the best possible GPU performance.

So a lot of things are vendor configurable.

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DarkRoast
01/26/20 7:38:42 PM
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I'm going to assume that the 2080 Max Q is probably going to be more than enough to Max everything out at least at 1080p for several years

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KamenRiderBlade
01/26/20 7:42:49 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I'm going to assume that the 2080 Max Q is probably going to be more than enough to Max everything out at least at 1080p for several years
It's a safe bet if all you care about 1080p

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DarkRoast
01/26/20 7:45:16 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
It's a safe bet if all you care about 1080p

Considering a comes with a 240 hz screen, I would wager it's better to use the laptop screen than a TV, unless you want a higher resolution

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KamenRiderBlade
01/26/20 7:46:24 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Considering a comes with a 240 hz screen, I would wager it's better to use the laptop screen than a TV, unless you want a higher resolution
Mostly for the Variable Refresh Rate + 240 Hz upper limit.

Unless your TV can keep up with your Monitor (VRR @ up to 240 Hz), it won't benefit for you to route out to the TV.

It would actually be detrimental (4k will unnecessarily tax your system for little benefit + 60 Hz limit and lack of VRR).

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DarkRoast
01/26/20 7:47:27 PM
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Honestly, I have one goal in life. To run Half-Life 2 at 999 frames per second.

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MarvAlbert
01/26/20 7:49:09 PM
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Man, it feels good to know there are other "Republicans" out there like me.

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KamenRiderBlade
01/26/20 7:49:24 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Honestly, I have one goal in life. To run Half-Life 2 at 999 frames per second.
Give it a decade or two.

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/304215-nvidia-and-asus-unveil-first-360hz-g-sync-gaming-monitor

360 Hz is the highest VRR capable monitor so far.

We'll get to 1,000 Hz or 1 kHz VRR panels eventually.

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DarkRoast
01/26/20 7:50:36 PM
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MarvAlbert posted...
Man, it feels good to know there are other "Republicans" out there like me.

I just don't know how anyone can support that party anymore. after doing a lot of research, the best I can figure is that apparently I'm a neoliberal. That would make certain parts of the Democrat party my closest political affiliation.


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DarkRoast
01/26/20 7:51:13 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Give it a decade or two.

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/304215-nvidia-and-asus-unveil-first-360hz-g-sync-gaming-monitor

360 Hz is the highest VRR capable monitor so far.

We'll get to 1,000 Hz or 1 kHz VRR panels eventually.

I'll be honest, I literally cannot see a difference between 144 Hertz and 240 hertz. There's no reason to have higher than that, other than to say you can.


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KamenRiderBlade
01/26/20 7:52:11 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I just don't know how anyone can support that party anymore. after doing a lot of research, the best I can figure is that apparently I'm a neoliberal. That would make certain parts of the Democrat party my closest political affiliation.

I think you're more independent like me.

No party fits us perfectly and there are aspects of us that don't fit either party as well.

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01/26/20 7:52:52 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I just don't know how anyone can support that party anymore. after doing a lot of research, the best I can figure is that apparently I'm a neoliberal. That would make certain parts of the Democrat party my closest political affiliation.
It's not the party I recognize anymore. There is no room for the bigotry and racism that seem to get pinned on us, and it makes me ashamed.

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KamenRiderBlade
01/26/20 7:54:46 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I'll be honest, I literally cannot see a difference between 144 Hertz and 240 hertz. There's no reason to have higher than that, other than to say you can.
Honestly, I think it's more your age, you're not a teenager anymore where your eyes observational capability are at their peek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX31kZbAXsA

There are benefits, but it depends on your hand eye coordination and your age to some degree.

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DarkRoast
01/26/20 7:56:58 PM
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MarvAlbert posted...
It's not the party I recognize anymore. There is no room for the bigotry and racism that seem to get pinned on us, and it makes me ashamed.

Plus this new anti-science, Antivax thing is just unacceptable.

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DarkRoast
01/26/20 7:59:28 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Honestly, I think it's more your age, you're not a teenager anymore where your eyes observational capability are at their peek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX31kZbAXsA

There are benefits, but it depends on your hand eye coordination and your age to some degree.

Teenagers are idiots though, so it evens out

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KamenRiderBlade
01/26/20 8:01:39 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Teenagers are idiots though, so it evens out
But seriously, watch the test that Linus and Friends do at Nvidia's HQ to prove the value of High Refresh Rates.

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