Current Events > grand prize for smash at evo japan is a fucking pro controller

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HerpToTheDerp
01/22/20 3:07:41 PM
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https://www.evojapan.net/outline_en/

what kind of bullshit is that? additionally there's only prize for 1st while every other game gets consolation prizes. mad disrespect.

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Leanaunfurled
01/22/20 3:09:07 PM
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Well that's weird o.O
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spudger
01/22/20 3:09:31 PM
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lol everyone else gets a million yen
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Irony
01/22/20 3:09:38 PM
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Pro Smash is dumb

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MACisBack
01/22/20 3:10:35 PM
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lol, cauze itz not a fighterz gamez.

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ChrisTaka
01/22/20 3:12:23 PM
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B-b-b-but ...tha gold icon ....

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Quorthon109
01/22/20 3:16:01 PM
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Is this real? And if so I wonder if it's a Nintendo thing, like they won't allow cash prizes? Still, a fucking controller isn't anywhere near the equivalent of the others.

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HerpToTheDerp
01/22/20 3:16:08 PM
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Irony posted...
Pro Smash is dumb
its not even the dumbest game to play competitively on that list

MACisBack posted...
lol, cauze itz not a fighterz gamez.
yet there it is at evo japan and taking mainstage at us evo
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HerpToTheDerp
01/22/20 3:18:02 PM
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Quorthon109 posted...
Is this real? And if so I wonder if it's a Nintendo thing, like they won't allow cash prizes? Still, a fucking controller isn't anywhere near the equivalent of the others.
i wonder if sakurai is partly to blame. i wouldnt be shocked if he's trying to undermine his own game. he's been notoriously butthurt about others calling it a fighter before.
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DocDelicious
01/22/20 3:19:05 PM
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Joke game, joke prize.

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Simon_Petrikov
01/22/20 3:21:16 PM
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HerpToTheDerp posted...
i wonder if sakurai is partly to blame. i wouldnt be shocked if he's trying to undermine his own game. he's been notoriously butthurt about others calling it a fighter before.
Theories like this are kinda crazy btw

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__aCEr__
01/22/20 3:21:28 PM
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Does anyone who plays Smash competitively even use a Switch controller lol

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HerpToTheDerp
01/22/20 3:28:56 PM
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Simon_Petrikov posted...
Theories like this are kinda crazy btw
id hardly call it a theory. im just saying if that were the case, i could believe it. not that i actually believe this is the real reason.

when i say i wonder if sakurai is to blame, i meant it in a more indirect sense. like, everyone in charge of evo japan sees the creators attitude and think "well if he isnt taking the game seriously, then why should we".
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Prestoff
01/22/20 3:30:14 PM
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Maybe that controller is worth thousands?

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Mareen
01/22/20 3:32:25 PM
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Cause competitive Smash is a joke obviously. Just like the prize.

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Irony
01/22/20 3:32:51 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Maybe that controller is worth thousands?
It'd still have significantly less value than the other prizes

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HerpToTheDerp
01/22/20 3:35:18 PM
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7th place in soul calibur or cross tag battle takes home 30,000($273/207)

1st place in smash gets a controller that's no functionally different than a $60/45 controller
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Kafkaf
01/22/20 3:35:57 PM
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I'm surprised there are cash prizes
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pojr
01/22/20 3:36:12 PM
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Inb4 mkleo gets a new controller

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HerpToTheDerp
01/22/20 3:37:24 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Maybe that controller is worth thousands?
even if the icon were made out of real gold it still wouldn't be equivalent lol
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Kaiganeer
01/22/20 3:39:22 PM
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i mean it's a party game that wasn't built to be a serious competitive experience, so that prize makes sense
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HerpToTheDerp
01/22/20 3:43:52 PM
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gotta love the "SmAsH iSnT a FiGhTiNg GaME" crowd still chiming in with their arbitrary rules as to what makes a game competitive despite the fact that ultimate has been considered the best fighting game of the year by multiple platforms and has taken mainstage at various fighting game events for years.
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Leanaunfurled
01/22/20 3:57:53 PM
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HerpToTheDerp posted...
when i say i wonder if sakurai is to blame, i meant it in a more indirect sense. like, everyone in charge of evo japan sees the creators attitude and think "well if he isnt taking the game seriously, then why should we".
Doing some reading around, apparently Japan has a law where prize money has to be given from the company of the product. It actually is Nintendo holding out on the prize pool and not Evo, and apparently it's really common enough that Japanese players are really used to it and think it's weird for a fuss to be raised.
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HerpToTheDerp
01/22/20 4:06:02 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
Doing some reading around, apparently Japan has a law where prize money has to be given from the company of the product. It actually is Nintendo holding out on the prize pool and not Evo, and apparently it's really common enough that Japanese players are really used to it and think it's weird for a fuss to be raised.
damn. that's pretty stupid. the law and nintendos decision. good for evo since you have to pay for tournament entry or admission to spectate and none of that goes towards the pools it seems. wonder why nintendo is consciously screwing over people paying to participate in playing their game.
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PIITB415
01/22/20 4:12:45 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
i mean it's a party game that wasn't built to be a serious competitive experience, so that prize makes sense
It doesn't

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Delirious_Beard
01/22/20 4:13:58 PM
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Simon_Petrikov posted...
Theories like this are kinda crazy btw

i mean he basically sabotaged brawl because he didn't like that people played his game competitively

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legendarylemur
01/22/20 4:27:22 PM
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It's a Nintendo thing. They're trying to distance themselves from hardcore e-sports.

I'm not entirely sure why, but I can only hazard some guesses, like having to cater too hard to the competitive scene instead of making their game for everybody

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HerpToTheDerp
01/22/20 5:02:53 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
It's a Nintendo thing. They're trying to distance themselves from hardcore e-sports.

I'm not entirely sure why, but I can only hazard some guesses, like having to cater too hard to the competitive scene instead of making their game for everybody
which is silly since cross tag battle and fighterz are able to get away with their simplicity without forfeiting attention from the fgc. i guess there's little point complaining about it though since this really only affects japan and apparently they're complacent
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Solar_Crimson
01/24/20 3:37:34 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
i mean he basically sabotaged brawl because he didn't like that people played his game competitively
And then started rolling this mentality back with Smash 4 and Ultimate. Now, he doesn't mind it, and even goes into the more technical aspects of the games during his streams.

legendarylemur posted...
It's a Nintendo thing. They're trying to distance themselves from hardcore e-sports.
I would say that the Nintendo Versus Twitter says otherwise, but I think that's a NoA thing, and we all know that NoA has little to no power in the grand scheme of the whole company.

Basically, the guys actually running things in Nintendo of Japan/NCL are a bunch of old, out-of-touch fossils.

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Kafkaf
01/24/20 8:54:56 PM
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orrr, They never contacted nintendo
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Simon_Petrikov
01/24/20 9:02:29 PM
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You really think?

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Lairen
01/24/20 9:04:17 PM
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You might as well stay home and play smash online.....

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Zack_Attackv1
01/24/20 9:07:39 PM
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*coughing fit of laughter*
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EyeWontBeFooled
01/24/20 9:32:58 PM
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Don't blame the tournament. Blame Nintendo for not bringing in sponsorship dollars for Smash at tournaments.

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HerpToTheDerp
01/24/20 9:35:44 PM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Don't blame the tournament. Blame Nintendo for not bringing in sponsorship dollars for Smash at tournaments.
thats precisely where ive directed my blame. well, its more towards that japanese law in general, but nintendo shares it as well i suppose.
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ChocoboMogALT
01/24/20 10:29:19 PM
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It was free to enter, had over 2000 "entrants" with over 1000 not showing.
Meanwhile, the same weekend is Genesis 7 with a $17k Ultimate prize pool and $11k Melee prize pool.

People bashing the game are ridiculous. There are Puzzle Fighter tournaments, Dr. Mario tournaments, Tetris modern and Tetris classic tournaments, Sudoku tournaments, and so much more. Whether or not Smash is a fighting game (and it is) does not deter people from making it competitive.

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puppy
01/24/20 10:35:59 PM
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Probably could sell it on eBay for thousands of dollars 10 years from now.

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MKScorpion
01/24/20 10:38:31 PM
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So? Smash should be happy it's at any EVO at all to begin with

ALSO EVO and other big tournaments used to be about proving you were the best, not how much money you win for it.
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