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Been playing The Outer Worlds which is a good game but there is a side quest were

You have to find 3 specific faction outfits across the universe and bring them to a shopkeeper, when chances are you already found and sold them a dozen times over before getting the quest not knowing it's important.

Then once you do that she sends you back to the same places you just were with a list of macguffins to gather.

Then once you do that you have to walk back and forth across the map for literally no reason.

Then they just kill the NPC Questgiver for no reason despite her being a super likable character.

It's just such shit game design and story on so many levels, half the quest is loading screens.

And it got me thinking, what are some other examples of great video games which suddenly turn shit for a little while?

A lot of people say the Cloister of the Trials in FFX but I liked those.
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Blood trail platforming during the dream sequences in Max Payne.

The controls are not designed for platforming that specific, and when you fall you hear the most horrifying, nightmare scream in the history of sound. I used to mute my TV during that part.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

A lot of people say the Cloister of the Trials in FFX but I liked those

They're not so bad if you know exactly what to do, which I do. But yeah, I hated them the first time

My answer is Cloud's memory in Final Fantasy VII. It's a good part of the game, but after playing 100+ times, it really drags the game down at that point

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ciri sections in The Witcher 3

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Twilight Town in Paper Mario: TTYD.

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the fade in dragon age(on another note, skip level mods are awesome)

the dream/hallucination sequence in uncharted 3.

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Doing the main quest lines in Bethesda games >_>;

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The escort mission near the end of Bioshock. It's not that bad, but it's definitely my least favorite section of that game.
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AsucaHayashi posted...

the fade in dragon age(on another note, skip level mods are awesome)

the dream/hallucination sequence in uncharted 3.

I liked the Fade first time round

It only sucks on repeat playthroughs because it's so long
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There's a part in uncharted 3 where you're dehydrated and just have to slowly walk through the desert and it goes on for flopping ever.

Most cave sections in Pokemon. Fuck random generic bat encounters.

Temple of the Ocean king in Phantom hourglass
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the island chapter in Red Dead Redemption 2

that shit was pointless...

Desert/Swamp maps in Fire Emblem.

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GiftedACIII posted...

Desert/Swamp maps in Fire Emblem.

Oh God yes

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Always the swimming part in Metal Gear series

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Metropolis Zone in Sonic 2
The intro in Majora's Mask
The intro in Persona 4
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pegusus123456 posted...

Twilight Town in Paper Mario: TTYD.

Replaying TTYD, that part is awful. You literally run back and forth 3 times between the same fucking hallway of forest to the same house. idk who thought this was a good idea
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p-m posted...

ciri sections in The Witcher 3

You can cheese these p easily tbf

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I dislike in jrpgs where you're whisked off to an area/place and you can't return to the main hub of the game until you complete it. So like twilight town is an example, or the time you go to the future in chrono trigger.

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Every goddamn stealth section in Gravity Rush 2

Although that game has a slew of other problems as well...

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Painted World of Ariandel for doing what the above post mentions if you rest at the bonfire while having a big area of poisonous enemies and shit


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I love 95% of Breath of Fire 3. That other 5% is know as the Desert of Death.

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ZevLoveDOOM posted...

the island chapter in Red Dead Redemption 2

that shit was pointless...

Came to say this.

GTAV, janitor heist setup.

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Mega Man Battle Network 3 Blue/White - Having to find the Iceball M battle chip for the kid in the hospital. The virus that drops this chip is rare to find even with the appropriate navi cutomizer parts. You might not even get the battle chip after beating it too.

Mega Man Zero - Disabling the bombs at the factory. There's a leap of faith section over a bottomless pit with moving platforms.

Call of Duty Black Ops - Kicking the barrels in the mission S.O.G. on veteran difficulty. Good fucking luck

Mario Kart Wii - Unlocking 3 Stars in every prix. Not only do you have to get 1st place every race, but you also have to drive perfectly (like no off-roading and hitting walls) and never drop out of first place at any point during the prix.

Some that immediately come to mind:

The swimming section in MGS2
The upriver section in the original Uncharted
The top-down levels in Contra III
Forced stealth levels in non-stealth games

AsucaHayashi posted...

the dream/hallucination sequence in uncharted 3.

This!

lilORANG posted...

There's a part in uncharted 3 where you're dehydrated and just have to slowly walk through the desert and it goes on for flopping ever.

And this!

Whoever's idea it was to create multiple areas of the game with purposefully bad/unresponsive controls should be blacklisted from the industry.


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When you are lost in a JRPG with random encounters, your party is about to die, and your last save was an hour ago

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AsucaHayashi posted...

the fade in dragon age(on another note, skip level mods are awesome)

the dream/hallucination sequence in uncharted 3.

Came here to say the fade. Though it was fun the first time.

Speaking of dragon age, the thiags were also a long boring part of the game.

The final boss of Sonic Generations
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The Mary Jane and Miles stealth segments in Spider-Man. They're not horrid, but they're pretty dull and unnecessary. All I want to do is be Spider-Man some more, game.

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NeonOctopus posted...

Replaying TTYD, that part is awful. You literally run back and forth 3 times between the same fucking hallway of forest to the same house. idk who thought this was a good idea

Its kinda shitty on purpose. Chapter 4 in the original paper Mario also had a ton of backtracking. Chapter 4 in Super Paper Mario was also really shitty. Im convinced its on purpose lol

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ZevLoveDOOM posted...

the island chapter in Red Dead Redemption 2

that shit was pointless...

I liked it for story and character development. Dutch goes fully unhinged.

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Tsukasa1891 posted...

Speaking of dragon age, the thiags were also a long boring part of the game.

I find the Deep Roads way more of a slog than the Fade, takes way too long.


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God of War (PS2), spiked columns.

The final boss in Secret of Mana.

1 - It's fucking Flammie, your adorable AF companion and airship.

2 - The only things that matter are sword skill of Boy and the Dryad levels of Sprite and Girl. And maybe some of the other buffs on Girl. That's IT. The whole game is fun variety with 8 weapon types and 7 elements per spellcaster but unless you've actively been raising your Dyrad level on purpose, it's level 0 which means the duration of Mana Sword is like 4 seconds. And NO ONE levels Dryad does, outside of using foreknowledge and metagaming -- seriously! Sprite gets Sleep Flower (2 MP) which is a silly debuff when you can just nuke something outright with a leveled element, and Burst (4 MP) which deals just as much damage as a 2 MP spell for another school. Girl gets Reflect which reflects even her own healing/buffs, and Revive which doesn't happen often by the time you get Dryad.

So now it's Boy who gets to strike at your pet for tiny ass windows and the girls who should be able to help somehow else are stuck just being Boy's Cheerleaders.

3 - Oh, and Mana's dead now so RIP(?) Sprite.
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Not a specific game, but any time a non-stealth game decides to throw in a stealth section.

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Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
The goddamned sewer. It's incredibly long, full of dangerous enemies, offers little in the way of blood, and, oh yeah, the goddamned swimming puzzles. It's also one of the least visually interesting areas in the game. Just awful. Most fan patches include a secret hatch towards the beginning that can be accessed by hacking for this very reason. It takes you straight to the last part of the sewers, getting around the horrible swimming segments.

Dynasty Warriors 4
The Nanman Campaign. It's a horrible, abusive stage. It takes forever, there are countless enemy plots and traps, large poisonous swamps that constantly sap your health, and did I mention the stage is massive? You'll spend your entire time rushing around the battlefield, futilely attempting to save your hapless CPU allies, and if Zhuge Liang bites it, you lose(he will be in near constant danger)! Have fun You might if you're Zhuge Liang.

Finding General White in Paper Mario: TTYD

Halo CE - The Library

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In KOTOR,

Manaan and anything to do with the Selkath. Only good part about the research station part is the insane soldier.

in general, Stealth missions in a non-stealth game.

except the one in the first Modern Warfare

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Piranha Lake in Sly Cooper 1

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The Island in Resident Evil 4


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Steamwood in Musashiden, twice.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

The Mary Jane and Miles stealth segments in Spider-Man. They're not horrid, but they're pretty dull and unnecessary. All I want to do is be Spider-Man some more, game.

I did like the MJ one where you pointed out the bad guys, and Spidey would stealth pick them up for you. That was kind of fun. I think that's what happened...
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Water
Temple

Ymir forest in tales of symphonia.

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Snow Barrel Blast in DKC
The hoverboard level in the TMNT arcade game
For Pete's Sake in Earthworm Jim (seriously, fuck that level)


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The Fade in Dragon Age Origins is probably the biggest offender that comes to mind.

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Dark Souls: every chaos or demon related area (lava).

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