Current Events > Why are computer illiterate people allowed to get jobs using computers

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And more importantly, why are these clueless idiots allowed to call me during work hours and waste my time with the absolute most trivial shit and take up 2 hours of my time for something that would take anyone else 2 seconds, and shouldnt ever have called me to begin with

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Because information economy

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"Im not a computer person"

Mate your job is to use a computer

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I mean, it's my job to help them and I think of it as job security. But I do the thing for them in 2 seconds instead of them and then spend 7 hours a day dicking around online.

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Rika_Furude posted...

"Im not a computer person"

Mate your job is to use a computer

Blame those who keep lowering standards on who is acceptable in what position.

The fact that that you have such garbage workers wasting your time speaks volumes of your companies hiring standards.

All those who waste your time should be fired, but they're kept around for some reason.

Be it nepotism, Political Correctness, Quota filling, etc.

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I feel like hiring managers are like "Well, if he can't use a computer very well at least IT will be there to help him."

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"I'm not an excel person"

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berlyman101 posted...

"I'm not an excel person"

That should be basis for immediate firing.

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Have you tried turning it off and on again?

KamenRiderBlade posted...

That should be basis for immediate firing.

I get not knowing. I don't get not trying.

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https://youtu.be/QwucZK1BCj4

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berlyman101 posted...

I get not knowing. I don't get not trying.

I dont get not knowing. If their job is to use excel they should know how to use excel.
Im not talking about advanced stuff, just the basics like how to open excel or how to sign into the computer...

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There is a IT guy at my job that seems to just hook up LAN cables, routers, splitters and converters.

Seen him set up the cameras and have them play on the computer screen, which seemed like something I could have done, but others don't seem to know how to open the video program the cameras are set too.

Have never seen him code anything.

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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

There is a IT guy at my job that seems to just hook up LAN cables, routers, splitters and converters.

Seen him set up the cameras and have them play on the computer screen, which seemed like something I could have done, but others don't seem to know how to open the video program the cameras are set too.

Have never seen him code anything.

>_>

IT people aren't coders, they're system admins.

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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

There is a IT guy at my job that seems to just hook up LAN cables, routers, splitters and converters.

Seen him set up the cameras and have them play on the computer screen, which seemed like something I could have done, but others don't seem to know how to open the video program the cameras are set too.

Have never seen him code anything.

IT generally doesn't do coding, they do software/hardware support. You call a dev team if you want a piece of software built, you call IT if you want a router installed, a printer on the network, or a firewall port opened.

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Rika_Furude posted...

I dont get not knowing. If their job is to use excel they should know how to use excel.
Im not talking about advanced stuff, just the basics like how to open excel or how to sign into the computer...

If you can't do the basics of excel, you have no business using a PC, much less being employed there.

Go learn how to use Excel properly before being hired.

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Maybe your company hired a cabeller or something and not a network engineer. Or maybe he does the config while you arent looking

I cant cable for shit but i know software development

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Solid Sonic posted...

IT people aren't coders, they're system admins.

Coders make things happen. Sys admins are why it doesn't fucking work

Solid Sonic posted...

IT people aren't coders, they're system admins.

Only a few IT folks are coders, those are rare.

Most IT folks just take care of hardware / software setup and standardization along with patch updates.

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If it takes you 2 hours to fix a 2 second problem, maybe you're the one not suited for the job.

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When I left my old job, I had to train my replacement that was sent by a temp agency. Her resume claimed "proficient in Microsoft Office."

I had to explain to her what "saving" was. And how to do it. Three times. We sent her home at lunch and contacted the temp agency to let them know she had lied on her resume and she shouldn't be sent out for any other computer-related jobs.

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Rika_Furude posted...

Maybe your company hired a cabeller or something and not a network engineer. Or maybe he does the config while you arent looking

I cant cable for shit but i know software development

Cabling is the EASIEST part, you can literally figure that shit out in a weekend.

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Some people still suck at typing even with years of experience.

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A lot of people who work in offices don't know excel, trust me.

To be fair I'm just getting to learn pivot tables. I'm sure it's all very easy but I've never needed it. Office jobs like operations never require much more than following directions.

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LordRazziel posted...

If it takes you 2 hours to fix a 2 second problem, maybe you're the one not suited for the job.

Imagine speaking to a monkey who cant remember longer than 10 seconds and triple confirms everything you ask him to do. And also puts 0 effort into learning anything

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Rika_Furude posted...

Imagine speaking to a monkey who cant remember longer than 10 seconds and triple confirms everything you ask him to do. And also puts 0 effort into learning anything

Do you work for the government or something?

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Cabling is the EASIEST part, you can literally figure that shit out in a weekend.

Any cables i touch turn into tangled monstrosities. But i can write powershell perfectly fine
Also dont you need like qualifications to put cables in walls and shit

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tigerslashII posted...

Do you work for the government or something?

Worse. Automotive and some of the people i deal with are mechanics

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Rika_Furude posted...

Worse. Automotive and some of the people i deal with are mechanics

Oh so you work for a bunch of BOOMERS

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A guy at my old job doesn't even know how to browse websites. He's in his 40s or early 50s lmao. I had to show him how to open a Web browser. No joke.

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tigerslashII posted...

Oh so you work for a bunch of BOOMERS

Boomers, and young people who didnt finish highschool

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the hell is a floppy disk?

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Rika_Furude posted...

Any cables i touch turn into tangled monstrosities. But i can write powershell perfectly fine

How is a person who can program and write power shell not able to handle cables?

Do Cables literally grow feet and run away and hide from you?

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

How is a person who can program and write power shell not able to handle cables?

Do Cables literally grow feet and run away and hide from you?

Seems that way. Like really i can plug in a cable in one end and in the other end, even a boomer can accomplish that
I just cant make it look pretty or non-tangled

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Rika_Furude posted...

Any cables i touch turn into tangled monstrosities. But i can write powershell perfectly fine
Also dont you need like qualifications to put cables in walls and shit

If you're talking about being a Electrician, sure.

But just running CAT Networking Cables isn't hard and just requires gumption, knowing where everything goes, and the ability to climb into small places and run wiring.

Also knowing how to wire everything into the appropriate RJ-45 jack and crimping isn't hard.

Same with setting up local area networks.

If you can literally write Power Shell scripts, this local area networking / cabling setup should be easy peasy for you.

Literally one weekend of reading on wikipedia and some messing around and you can figure it all out.

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Rika_Furude posted...

Seems that way. Like really i can plug in a cable in one end and in the other end, even a boomer can accomplish that
I just cant make it look pretty or non-tangled

It's not hard, cable management is like childs play.

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Maybe i should google it or something

I never really have to cable anything so

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I'll also blame some of it on phones.

Everyone uses them like easy peasy but have forgotten or don't know how to use a normal PC.

They think I'm weird because I use a laptop and they're on their phones.

I mean there is a difference in looking at something on a 20 inch screen from a 6 inch screen.

Like how many times do I have to tell them?

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Rika_Furude posted...

Worse. Automotive and some of the people i deal with are mechanics

Good Mechanics that I know are technically competent people.

If they can't do the basics with a computer, then they are either mechanical idiot savants, or just low end random chumps that they picked up.

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I'm less concerned about people being automatically capable in computers. Needing to operate computers at work is damn near inevitable now, and not everyone still in the workforce is prepared for that.

More importantly is whether they're willing to learn and how fast they can do it. A trainable employee with not that much starting knowledge is infinitely more valuable than an untrainable employee with that knowledge.

KamenRiderBlade posted...

Good Mechanics that I know are technically competent people.

If they can't do the basics with a computer, then they are either mechanical idiot savants, or just low end random chumps that they picked up.

Probably

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Rika_Furude posted...

Maybe i should google it or something

I never really have to cable anything so

Setting up a LAN should be something you already can do in your skill set, Wireless or Wired.

Same with understanding basic Networking 101 along with TCP/IP and how the internet is setup via IPv4 protocol.

This is very basic stuff that won't take you more than a weekend to understand.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Setting up a LAN should be something you already can do in your skill set, Wireless or Wired.

Same with understanding basic Networking 101 along with TCP/IP and how the internet is setup via IPv4 protocol.

This is very basic stuff that won't take you more than a weekend to understand.

Setting up a lan is something ive never done really. I got employed into an already existing IT department and i work in sysadmin/software dev/database management mostly.
I am slowly studying a ccna but i dont really need it in my current role since we have dedicated network engineers

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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

I'll also blame some of it on phones.

Everyone uses them like easy peasy but have forgotten or don't know how to use a normal PC.

They think I'm weird because I use a laptop and they're on their phones.

I mean there is a difference in looking at something on a 20 inch screen from a 6 inch screen.

Like how many times do I have to tell them?

These people dont even understand how to use their phones apart from how to text and call

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Rika_Furude posted...

Setting up a lan is something ive never done really. I got employed into an already existing IT department and i work in sysadmin/software dev/database management mostly.
I am slowly studying a ccna but i dont really need it in my current role since we have dedicated network engineers

How did you setup your LAN at home?

Or for members of your extended family?

That should be easy peasy.

The differences between that and at work is scale and what wired / wireless solutions you may choose to implement.

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Rika_Furude posted...

These people dont even understand how to use their phones apart from how to text and call

You're really dealing with the most incompetent level of workers.

-_-

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

It's not hard, cable management is like childs play.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

How did you setup your LAN at home?

Or for members of your extended family?

That should be easy peasy.

The differences between that and at work is scale and what wired / wireless solutions you may choose to implement.

Well i can do that, but i know nothing about like cisco switch and router config. I think a home network is fairly different from an enterprise network.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

You're really dealing with the most incompetent level of workers.

-_-

Its either the curse of australia or my own personal hell. What id give to work for say, a legal firm or accounting firm or something with people who at least know where their excel files are stored

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I use excel at my job as a calculator and people think I'm a fucking genius. It's crazy.

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