Current Events > Biden claims, falsely, that Sanders campaigned doctored video against him

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Antifar
01/18/20 8:48:56 PM
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/18/joe-biden-falsely-attacks-bernie-sanders-100811
Joe Biden accused Bernie Sanders campaign Saturday of issuing a doctored video to attack him over Social Security, a false claim that ratcheted up the tension between the two campaigns in the run-up to the Iowa caucuses.

Lets get the record straight, Biden said at Simpson College here. Theres a little, doctored video going around ... saying I agreed with Paul Ryan, the former vice presidential candidate, about wanting to privatize Social Security.

But the video in question of Bidens 2018 remarks to the Brookings Institution think tank was not doctored by Sanders, whose campaign this month stepped up criticisms of Bidens record on Social Security.

Sanders campaign did say in a recent campaign email that Biden lauded Paul Ryan for proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare which PolitiFact said Sanders campaign got wrong. But there is no evidence that the campaign doctored any video.

Biden, however, referenced the fact-checking website in making a muddled claim: PolitiFact looked at it and they doctored the photo, they doctored the piece and its acknowledged that its a fake.

Sanders campaign bristled at the criticism from Biden a serious charge that Democrats recently have begun to level at Republicans, including Donald Trump, for manipulating images and videos on social media. An aide said Sanders might address the criticism head on.

Joe Biden should be honest with voters and stop trying to doctor his own public record of consistently and repeatedly trying to cut Social Security, said Sanders Campaign Manager Faiz Shakir in a statement Saturday. The facts are very clear: Biden not only pushed to cut Social Security he is on tape proudly bragging about it on multiple occasions.

Bidens accusation came after a voter here asked about his record on Social Security Sanders and his campaign have been attacking the former vice presidents long-standing record of entertaining cuts to the program that are anathema to progressives and many mainstream Democrats.

The criticism on Social Security is a politically damaging attack in Iowa in the closing days of a campaign where Biden is counting on older voters. Until now, Bidens campaign has responded by pointing out his current plan calls for expanding Social Security.

But the fact that an Iowa voter asked Biden about the issue suggests that Sanders criticisms which are more extensive than the single video Biden referred to and involve multiple remarks by Biden over the years might have broken through more if Sanders had mentioned it at the Democratic debate Tuesday or put it in paid media, instead of on Twitter and Facebook.

During his remarks Saturday, Biden accurately pointed out that his plan seeks to boost Social Security spending, then demanded Sanders campaign issue an apology.

It is simply a lie, that video thats going around. And ask anybody in the press, its a flat lie. They acknowledged that, Biden said. This is a doctored tape. And I think its beneath him. And Im looking for his campaign to come forward and disown it. But they havent done it yet.

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Vyrulisse
01/18/20 8:49:18 PM
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Bernie's really got 'em all shook this time around doesn't he?

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darkphoenix181
01/18/20 8:52:15 PM
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Joe Biden pulling a Trump.
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Choco
01/18/20 8:55:41 PM
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Joe "if you have daughters you better hide 'em" Biden

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Polycosm
01/18/20 8:58:24 PM
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Sanders' recent poll numbers clearly have some campaigns and media outlets spooked. It's amazing how quickly some people went from ignoring him to aggressively smearing him. He's not my #1 choice but it's impossible for me not to root for him.

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lilJoe457
01/18/20 9:02:54 PM
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Idk why they're so spooked about Sanders? He'll just do what the master's want him to do like the last time he ran against Hillary. They'd fight dirty with him and he wouldn't fight back. Then he fell in line like a good boy when evidence came out that they rigged the primary against him. He's all talk. I laugh when people say he's the only anti war candidate.

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Keith_Valentine
01/18/20 9:32:06 PM
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I like watching the Democrats flail around and self destruct.

At least Bernie had the balls to vote against going to war with Iraq. He was right about that.
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Antifar
01/19/20 9:39:23 AM
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ZeldaMutant
01/19/20 9:53:30 AM
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The video is FAKE NEWS!

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YokoGeri
01/19/20 9:56:17 AM
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bernie will engage in "friendly" fire with any strong dem candidates in order to soften them up for trump.

#BerniesBeingBros
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UnfairRepresent
01/19/20 10:04:20 AM
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YokoGeri posted...
bernie will engage in "friendly" fire with any strong dem candidates in order to soften them up for trump.

#BerniesBeingBros

You cant blame Bernie for this
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Lordgold666
01/19/20 10:09:52 AM
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Hairy legs

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FrozenXylophone
01/19/20 10:15:50 AM
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Biden so ick
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Unsugarized_Foo
01/19/20 10:17:29 AM
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I hope Sanders doesn't fold like last time. The Dems be dirty

https://youtu.be/RjdH_NmmO0I

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YokoGeri
01/19/20 10:22:15 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Yeah, how dare Bernie use Bidens words against him!

I wonder how proud you will feel once 45 wins again
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Funkydog
01/19/20 10:25:50 AM
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The democrats big cats really don't want Bernie to be the nomination.

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YokoGeri
01/19/20 10:28:20 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Yeah, theres no way Trump will use Bidens own words against him!

Ohhh!!! I had no idea that Bernie and Trump were in the same party and qualified as "friendly" fire!!! Wow!!! That's for the insight my dude, your posts always add so much to the conversation!!! :O :O :O
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Broseph_Stalin
01/19/20 10:29:48 AM
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Antifar posted...
Sanders campaign did say in a recent campaign email that Biden lauded Paul Ryan for proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare which PolitiFact said Sanders campaign got wrong. But there is no evidence that the campaign doctored any video

So Sanders' campaign lied about Biden and their defense is "well we didn't doctor a video, we just used part of a speech taken out of context"

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2020/jan/09/bernie-sanders/did-biden-laud-paul-ryan-proposal-cut-social-secur/

A Sanders campaign newsletter said, "In 2018, Biden lauded Paul Ryan for proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare."
That stems from a speech Biden gave in 2018 in which he spoke about Ryan. Biden appeared to be mocking Ryan, not praising him.
The Sanders campaign omitted what Biden said next: the importance of protecting Social Security and Medicare and to change the tax code, which he said benefitted the mega rich. Overall, the point of Bidens speech was to criticize tax cuts for the rich and call for more help to the middle class.
The Sanders campaign plucked out part of what Biden said but omitted the full context of his comments.

Imagine lying about someone and then trying to play the victim.
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YokoGeri
01/19/20 10:30:53 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
So Sanders' campaign lied about Biden and their defense is "well we didn't doctor a video, we just used part of a speech taken out of context"

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2020/jan/09/bernie-sanders/did-biden-laud-paul-ryan-proposal-cut-social-secur/

A Sanders campaign newsletter said, "In 2018, Biden lauded Paul Ryan for proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare."
That stems from a speech Biden gave in 2018 in which he spoke about Ryan. Biden appeared to be mocking Ryan, not praising him.
The Sanders campaign omitted what Biden said next: the importance of protecting Social Security and Medicare and to change the tax code, which he said benefitted the mega rich. Overall, the point of Bidens speech was to criticize tax cuts for the rich and call for more help to the middle class.
The Sanders campaign plucked out part of what Biden said but omitted the full context of his comments.

Imagine lying about someone and then trying to play the victim.

berniebros gonna berniebro.

Their guy even called warren a liar during the debate and then he went like "awww no :) " when she confronted him.

Sometimes I can't help but wonder if he is a GOP plant
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YokoGeri
01/19/20 10:32:34 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Are you gonna be ok, ROD?

translation - "I have now reached the limit of my argumentative capabilities and admit defeat. I must use the ROD-signal now"

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YokoGeri
01/19/20 10:34:25 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
So no, youre not ok?

Add something to the conversation or stop, ROD, I don't have time for this
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NotYou
01/19/20 10:37:07 AM
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Maybe a lobotomy, if that hasn't been done already.
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treewojima
01/19/20 10:42:21 AM
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lol ROD
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YokoGeri
01/19/20 10:43:11 AM
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treewojima posted...
lol ROD

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SmidgeIsntBack
01/19/20 4:41:59 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
So Sanders' campaign lied about Biden and their defense is "well we didn't doctor a video, we just used part of a speech taken out of context"

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2020/jan/09/bernie-sanders/did-biden-laud-paul-ryan-proposal-cut-social-secur/

A Sanders campaign newsletter said, "In 2018, Biden lauded Paul Ryan for proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare."
That stems from a speech Biden gave in 2018 in which he spoke about Ryan. Biden appeared to be mocking Ryan, not praising him.
The Sanders campaign omitted what Biden said next: the importance of protecting Social Security and Medicare and to change the tax code, which he said benefitted the mega rich. Overall, the point of Bidens speech was to criticize tax cuts for the rich and call for more help to the middle class.
The Sanders campaign plucked out part of what Biden said but omitted the full context of his comments.

Imagine lying about someone and then trying to play the victim.

Politifact is completely wrong actually.

https://theweek.com/articles-amp/888689/joe-bidens-history-austerity?__twitter_impression=true

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