Current Events > Iran says it will pursue war-crimes charges against President Donald Trump.

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Solid Sonic
01/18/20 10:04:29 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
They aren't wrong, but it won't amount to anything since the US doesn't recognize the ICC. Also, seems a bit hypocritical coming from Iran of all places.

Saltiness breeds unusual tactics.

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Bio1590
01/18/20 10:07:43 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...


How did the US react vs. how Iran reacted?

Let me know when you research it.


The US to this day maintains it was shot down in self-defense and has never admitted legal liability or formally apologized? This isn't the win you think it is lol.
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darkphoenix181
01/18/20 10:15:15 PM
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RaptorLC posted...
Go ahead and just say whatever you're pretending that you have a clue about. I could use the laugh.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

In the days immediately following the incident, President Ronald Reagan issued a written diplomatic note to the Iranian government, expressing deep regret.[15] However, the U.S. continued to insist that Vincennes was acting in self-defense in international waters.

In 1996, the governments of the U.S. and Iran reached a settlement at the International Court of Justice which included the statement "... the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident ..."[16] As part of the settlement, even though the U.S. government did not admit legal liability or formally apologize to Iran, it still agreed to pay US$61.8 million on an ex gratia basis in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims.[17


Vs. Trying to cover it up, Arresting the camera man who got the plane going down on film.

Just Iran things.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51104687

For the first three days after the crash, Iran denied that its armed forces had shot down the Boeing 737-800 and suggested there had been a technical failure.

Mr Esmaili also said about 30 people had been arrested for "taking part in illegal gatherings" - an apparent reference to the recent anti-government protests.

But hey, continue to defend Iran of all places.
We all could use a laugh lmfao.
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Lorenzo_2003
01/18/20 10:25:19 PM
#54:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Duncanwii excusing Iran for blowing up an airplane full of civilians.

He has also said that he is neutral regarding Chinas oppression of Hong Kong citizens. His take on Iran shouldnt be shocking, when you consider that.

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evil_zombie11
01/18/20 10:28:39 PM
#55:


Of course some of CE would shill for Iran.

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Y__X__X__O__B
01/18/20 10:33:48 PM
#56:


I mean all trump did was kill a terrorist. He didnt actually commit a crime. So good luck with that iran.
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RaptorLC
01/18/20 10:34:01 PM
#57:


Right, because literally Ronald Reagan of all people never covered up anything at all when it pertains to Iran.

You're clearly just trolling at this point.

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darkphoenix181
01/18/20 10:36:47 PM
#58:


Bio1590 posted...
The US to this day maintains it was shot down in self-defense

Ironically, this new incident may give more credence to US here. US said they interpretted the signal as an enemy craft.

Now, why did Iran shoot down a Ukrainian craft in their own airspace that lifted out of their own airport? Perhaps they also got such a signal, which would mean US saying they had no idea that craft wasn't a threat would be true.
I mean, you would think they could tell the Ukraine flight trajectory just came from Tehran airport.

But there is a big difference in lying about technical failure and arresting people vs. admitting you shot it down because of the signal and calling it a tragedy. Do you not agree?

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Duncanwii
01/18/20 10:38:47 PM
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Y__X__X__O__B posted...
I mean all trump did was kill a terrorist. He didnt actually commit a crime. So good luck with that iran.
Whether you like it or not assassinating a major member of a rival country is a crime, whether he was a terrorist or not.

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darkphoenix181
01/18/20 10:38:57 PM
#60:


RaptorLC posted...
Right, because literally Ronald Reagan of all people never covered up anything at all when it pertains to Iran.

You're clearly just trolling at this point.

You are deflecting.

Did Reagan cover up shooting down the flight in question?

Deflection is a tactic used when you are losing an argument.
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RaptorLC
01/18/20 10:43:47 PM
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It always amuses me when the random dude who's projecting cracks open his beginner's guide to logical fallacies handbook.

Sadly, he never reaches full self awareness about said projection.

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darkphoenix181
01/18/20 10:49:18 PM
#62:


RaptorLC posted...
It always amuses me when the random dude who's projecting cracks open his beginner's guide to logical fallacies handbook.

Sadly, he never reaches full self awareness about said projection.

I cited a wikipedia article and carefully reasoned points as to how US reaction to shooting down a flight vs. Iran reacting to shooting down a flight was quite different.

You couldn't counter my points. Instead you claim a well reasoned post with supporting citations is trolling. Weak.

Then you go, "but in a totally unrelated event Reagan was dishonest so him being honest in this event should be ignored"

Oh and btw, I am not a random guy. You responded to my post challenging it and I showed the invalidity of your claim.

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RaptorLC
01/18/20 10:55:53 PM
#63:


I'm sorry that you believed your gish gallop was something that warranted "countering" instead of being chuckled at.

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darkphoenix181
01/18/20 11:07:29 PM
#64:


RaptorLC posted...
I'm sorry that you believed your gish gallop was something that warranted "countering" instead of being chuckled at.

What exactly are you chuckling at?
That the wikipedia article says Reagan issued a statement of deep regret and the US acknowledged they shot it down?
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RaptorLC
01/18/20 11:11:27 PM
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Keep pretending the red herring you're gish galloping with has any relevance whatsoever, brotato chip.

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darkphoenix181
01/18/20 11:13:48 PM
#66:


Ah ok, all you can do at this point is sling insults in an attempt to skirt the flaming rules despite you being a mod and should act and know better.
You do you I guess.
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RaptorLC
01/18/20 11:15:36 PM
#67:


So you're saying that your understanding of the rule of this site is as nonexistent as your understanding of international diplomacy? I mean, that was kind of obvious already.

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FrozenXylophone
01/18/20 11:16:23 PM
#68:


RaptorLC posted...
So you're saying that your understanding of the rule of this site is as nonexistent as your understanding of international diplomacy? I mean, that was kind of obvious already.

What brotato chip this mod is
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Alucard188
01/18/20 11:18:11 PM
#69:


War crime charges is better than World War 3. They can have them.

Oh shit, did I accidentally comment on the OP, then skip right to the end, where we're bitching about the mods again?

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Romes187
01/18/20 11:20:09 PM
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Anyone who supports Iran literally supports sexism and homophobia lmao

which shows the left hates trump more than it cares about such things. gross

but then again these people are insanely bitter that theyve failed miserably at making a life In The greatest country of all time so they have to figure out a way to think that this isnt the case

that way they dont have to live with their own failings

lmao
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RaptorLC
01/18/20 11:23:09 PM
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Ah, Romes is spewing his fake patriotism in this topic now? This should be funny.

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UnholyMudcrab
01/18/20 11:23:43 PM
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Romes187
01/18/20 11:25:20 PM
#73:


RaptorLC posted...
Ah, Romes is spewing his fake patriotism in this topic now? This should be funny.

I love fake patriotism

its the most American thing ever

and this the most patriotic thing ever

so nice try haha
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RaptorLC
01/18/20 11:26:44 PM
#74:


I accept your admission of defeat in the face of an actual patriot. You may carry on with your dollar store trolling.

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Keith_Valentine
01/18/20 11:27:50 PM
#75:


I agree Romes. Its so fucked up it just gives me this deep feeling of sadness. I used to get angry but now im just surprised and disappointed at how consistently stupid and weak people are.

Defending fucking Iran. A terrorist supporting, murdering, repressive throwback piece of shit of a country. What the fuck happened.
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darkphoenix181
01/18/20 11:28:19 PM
#76:


RaptorLC posted...
So you're saying that your understanding of the rule of this site is as nonexistent as your understanding of international diplomacy? I mean, that was kind of obvious already.

What I understand is you are trying to be as insulting as possible to me while ignoring the actual discussion we were having because you couldn't defeat my logic.

So far you called me: a random dude, not self aware, a brotato chip.

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RaptorLC
01/18/20 11:30:22 PM
#77:


darkphoenix181 posted...
So far you called me: a random dude, not self aware, a brotato chip.

I mean if you're going to agree that I didn't come anywhere within the same galaxy of flaming you, why are you throwing such a temper tantrum about matters?

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darkphoenix181
01/18/20 11:39:35 PM
#78:


RaptorLC posted...
I mean if you're going to agree that I didn't come anywhere within the same galaxy of flaming you, why are you throwing such a temper tantrum about matters?

I never agreed to that.

But like you think continuing the insult train will prop up your argument, I can show that is all you have done. This is afterall a public forum.
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RaptorLC
01/18/20 11:41:12 PM
#79:


Your temper tantrum consisted of remarks that have literally never been violations in the history of this site. In short, you agreed that I did not flame you at all in any timeline.

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PleaseClap
01/18/20 11:42:41 PM
#80:


How are you so bad at this, raptor

It actually boggles the mind.
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Alpha218
01/19/20 12:39:34 AM
#81:


imagine thinking fucking brotato chip of all things is flaming

this isn't even the first time i've seen people try to claim raptor was flaming them for saying that. fucking lol

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darkphoenix181
01/19/20 12:42:26 AM
#82:


Alpha218 posted...
imagine thinking fucking brotato chip of all things is flaming

this isn't even the first time i've seen people try to claim raptor was flaming them for saying that. fucking lol

Why does he say it other than with the intention flame but pretend it isn't a flame?
He definitely wasn't considering me his bro in that post.

And if multiple people felt he was flaming them, that is saying alot.

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viewmaster_pi
01/19/20 12:55:08 AM
#83:


Kazi1212 posted...
Witch hunt, that was a perfectly legal strike, perfectly legal
"I call the best drone strikes, the biggest explosions. And they love me down in Iran, they're some of the greatest people in the world."

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Y__X__X__O__B
01/19/20 1:50:16 AM
#84:


Duncanwii posted...
Whether you like it or not assassinating a major member of a rival country is a crime, whether he was a terrorist or not.

Not in america it isnt or the rest of the world. Maybe to them it is but who cares? It would be like Jay walking in Australia and then going home. Their rules dont apply to us citizens. I mean trump made the world a better place by getting rid of a terrorist. Call me when he does something like drone attacking hospitals and then maybe jail would make a lot more sense
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Solid Snake07
01/19/20 3:45:35 AM
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I've not been a fan of......pretty much everything trump has done. But sticking it to Iranian thugs is not one of them

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Evening_Dragon
01/19/20 3:49:35 AM
#86:


Christ, phoenix, give up. I'm feeling embarrassed for you just reading along.

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