Current Events > cyberpunk 2077 is going to be developed under crunch

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AceMos
01/17/20 4:00:05 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoswHl2Hx8M

uhg fuck crunch just fuck it the video game industry needs to unionize so badly

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sauceje
01/17/20 4:00:45 PM
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Crunch really needs to go

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nemu
01/17/20 4:04:49 PM
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Don't a lot of tech industry jobs make this a known part of how they work? Being randomly forced into 100 hour weeks out of nowhere would be hellish, but going into an industry knowing you're going to have major overtime months is another thing entirely.
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AceMos
01/17/20 4:07:39 PM
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nemu posted...
Don't a lot of tech industry jobs make this a known part of how they work? Being randomly forced into 100 hour weeks out of nowhere would be hellish, but going into an industry knowing you're going to have major overtime months is another thing entirely.
the problem is they dont get payed much for the overtime and are forced into it or get fired

and people have no choice but to put up with it cus they need the pay check

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Smashingpmkns
01/17/20 4:08:17 PM
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I used to love Crunch as a kid but as an adult Crunch is definitely a bottom tier chocolate bar. I can see why the employees are concerned.
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garan
01/17/20 4:10:32 PM
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Did anyone actually read the article, or are we all just going to believe random people saying things on twitter or youtube?
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DifferentialEquation
01/17/20 4:11:20 PM
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Would you really wanna wait an extra year or two for the game?

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RebelElite791
01/17/20 4:11:29 PM
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CDPR is terrible to its employees, but their rabid fans don't care

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AceMos
01/17/20 4:13:33 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Would you really wanna wait an extra year or two for the game?
i would be fine with more dev time for games if it ment employees where treated better


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darkphoenix181
01/17/20 4:18:47 PM
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Boycott?
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brotrrwinner
01/17/20 5:01:04 PM
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Newsflash: every AAA game goes through crunch

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Guerrilla Soldier
01/17/20 5:04:35 PM
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AceMos posted...
i would be fine with more dev time for games if it ment employees where treated better
sure, you would be. but companies make projections and estimates based on things like release dates. pushing dates is worse for companies than the consumers. that's why there's crunch at all.

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YokoGeri
01/17/20 5:06:03 PM
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brotrrwinner posted...
Newsflash: every AAA game goes through crunch

crunch was supposed to be an emergency or extraordinary circumstance, not the standard. How the fuck did crunch end becoming the standard? This should be illegal
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garan
01/17/20 5:41:25 PM
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CDPR actually pays overtime, even to salaried employees, unlike almost every other big game company.

And their statement about this game was that, while some amount of crunch was unavoidable, that they would do everything in their power to limit it. That is one of the reasons the game is being delayed.
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AceMos
01/17/20 8:19:52 PM
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bump

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WilliamPorygon
01/17/20 8:24:56 PM
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Why is Crunch even lega oh right, Capitalism.

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AceMos
01/17/20 8:43:39 PM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
Why is Crunch even lega oh right, Capitalism.
yep

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Jiek_Fafn
01/17/20 8:55:48 PM
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Cyberpunk: Oops! All Berries

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St0rmFury
01/19/20 5:13:59 AM
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Cybersunk 2077.

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YokoGeri
01/19/20 9:45:26 AM
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truly magical games like Mario 64, OoT, Bioshock 1, etc are never done under "crunch".

Crunch gives you flops like fallout 76
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AceMos
01/19/20 3:23:45 PM
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ya know any time i hear about crunch now i hope it ends up on matt mcmussels wha happun just cus i love his crunch jokes

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ToadallyAwesome
01/19/20 3:25:17 PM
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YokoGeri posted...
truly magical games like Mario 64, OoT, Bioshock 1, etc are never done under "crunch".

Crunch gives you flops like fallout 76

There are issues with Fallout 76. Crunch is not one of them

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hockeybub89
01/19/20 3:30:48 PM
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So this tells me they delayed the game as far as possible but don't want to cost themselves money by releasing after the new consoles come out and likely having to port the game up to earn some more sales. April was never gonna happen. This game should probably come out in 2022 if they wanted to treat their employees with respect. We need a developer strike.

YokoGeri posted...
truly magical games like Mario 64, OoT, Bioshock 1, etc are never done under "crunch".

Crunch gives you flops like fallout 76
People say this about crunch and review embargos when tons of games of all quality employ both tactics. I don't like either, but they inform nothing about the final product.

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pres_madagascar
01/19/20 3:51:39 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
CDPR is terrible to its employees, but their rabid fans don't care
Bingo

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Shadow20201
01/19/20 4:02:36 PM
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AceMos posted...
the problem is they dont get payed much for the overtime and are forced into it or get fired and people have no choice but to put up with it cus they need the pay check
CDPR employees get paid 150-200% for their overtime. It is also against overtime law for anyone to work more than 13 hours in a day or to work 7 days a week in the EU. Furthermore, it is not mandatory overtime. That is why it is pushed back 5 months instead of being released on schedule. They've taken multiple steps to reduce the effects of 'crunch' since the criticism they received for utilizing it on Witcher 3.

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