Current Events > The meat industry may be the biggest example of a ''Necessary evil'' I know of.

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When you think about it, it's absolutely horrific that millions of animals are bred and imprisoned in nightmarish conditions solely to be slaughtered en mass every day.

On the other hand, people need to eat, and the vast majority of us don't have the time, skill, and/or resources to farm our own meat.

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lab made meat is the answer and future. but much like gasoline versus electric, the public will never fully take to it.

maybe in say...100 years humanity will look back at slaughterhouses much the same way we currently look back at slavery.

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wood and berries

PrideOfLion posted...

There are alternatives to meat

Meat isn't the issue. The industry is.

Would people say pharmaceuticals are bad because the industry is?

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Solar_Crimson posted...

people need to eat,

yeah but not meat, or at least not the amounts of meat that the average person consumes.


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PrideOfLion posted...

There are alternatives to meat

Ya like seafood and fish

The only meat I eat is chicken. I especially refuse to eat seafood because I love sea amimals and fish are literally going extinct and dying off. I get so uncomfortable and emotional seeing dead fish. I wish I could go vegan but I think it's unhealthy for someone like me who is already very underweight.

Evol posted...

The only meat I eat is chicken. I especially refuse to eat seafood because I love sea amimals and fish are literally going extinct and dying off. I get so uncomfortable and emotional seeing dead fish. I wish I could go vegan but I think it's unhealthy for someone like me who is already very underweight.

a bag of nuts has more calories than some pizzas bro

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Regular people cant afford to get protein from non meat sources.

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Firearm industry

Depending on your perspective

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

a bag of nuts has more calories than some pizzas bro

I used to eat a lot of almonds and I never gained any weight lol

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Regular people cant afford to get protein from non meat sources.

this is bullshit

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

yeah but not meat, or at least not the amounts of meat that the average person consumes.

There's no way to control that though and we shouldn't try.

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If it didn't take much effort to go vegetarian/vegan, you'd see way more armchair activists attacking meat eaters

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No one needs meat seven days a week and three meals a day. People don't need to cut it off entirely; merely reducing intake would be a step in the right direction.

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

this is bullshit

It's a lot harder to get protein from plants than meat tbf

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Don't worry, guys!

Bernie is considering a meat tax for this!

https://youtu.be/VV6hWjrr3gc

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Dis is stoopid.

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Evol posted...

The only meat I eat is chicken. I especially refuse to eat seafood because I love sea amimals and fish are literally going extinct and dying off. I get so uncomfortable and emotional seeing dead fish. I wish I could go vegan but I think it's unhealthy for someone like me who is already very underweight.

How can you get sad about seeing a dead fish yet seeing dead birds on your plate is appetizing?

EvalAngell posted...

lab made meat is the answer and future. but much like gasoline versus electric, the public will never fully take to it.

maybe in say...100 years humanity will look back at slaughterhouses much the same way we currently look back at slavery.

lmfaooooooo


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EvalAngell posted...

maybe in say...100 years humanity will look back at slaughterhouses much the same way we currently look back at slavery.

Uh, lmao no

so you guys are fully OK with slaughterhouses? and don't believe it's barbaric, inhumane and completely disgusting? As the most dominant species on the planet, you don't think we need to do better by these animals? Or do you just believe that slaughterhouses will never go away? I'm confused by your posts.

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EvalAngell posted...

so you guys are fully OK with slaughterhouses? and don't believe it's barbaric, inhumane and completely disgusting? As the most dominant species on the planet, you don't think we need to do better by these animals?

We depend on meat not only for food, but for jobs. What you're suggesting is eliminating meat consumption which would destroy many, many, many jobs. Not only that, but some meats, in moderation, are good sources of nutrients that we need.

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garlic powder posted...

We depend on meat not only for food, but for jobs. What you're suggesting is eliminating meat consumption which would destroy many, many, many jobs. Not only that, but some meats, in moderation, are good sources of nutrients that we need.

none of this is true.

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garlic powder posted...

We depend on meat not only for food, but for jobs. What you're suggesting is eliminating meat consumption which would destroy many, many, many jobs. Not only that, but some meats, in moderation, are good sources of nutrients that we need.

These jobs will be lost to automation anyway.

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garlic powder posted...

We depend on meat not only for food, but for jobs. What you're suggesting is eliminating meat consumption which would destroy many, many, many jobs. Not only that, but some meats, in moderation, are good sources of nutrients that we need.

There are other ways to get the nutrients we need, and even lessening the amount of meat people eat drastically would go a long way to help.

And yes, it would put people out of a job. But guess what, so does moving away from coal etc. But just means people need to move with the times and get new skills. We can't continue to practise things that are harmful just because people would need get new training/different jobs.

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Something has to die or be exploited so you can live. Be it animals or plants. That's the reality. That's nature.

Just cut back on meat and food consumption in general and then we'd move to a better situation for everyone.

EvalAngell posted...

lab made meat is the answer and future. but much like gasoline versus electric, the public will never fully take to it.

maybe in say...100 years humanity will look back at slaughterhouses much the same way we currently look back at slavery.

Last experiment into lab-grown meat ended in something that apparently tastes of despair. Even if it is the future, that future is still decades away from being even close from replacing the real deal.
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@RebelElite791

EvalAngell posted...

so you guys are fully OK with slaughterhouses? and don't believe it's barbaric, inhumane and completely disgusting? As the most dominant species on the planet, you don't think we need to do better by these animals? Or do you just believe that slaughterhouses will never go away? I'm confused by your posts.

Im not saying any of that.

im saying that your statement about people viewing slaughterhouses the same way they view human slavery is absolutely silly.

Paragon21XX posted...

Last experiment into lab-grown meat ended in something that apparently tastes of despair.

The fuck are you talking about?

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Where's rebel at?
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BornIn1142 posted...

Paragon21XX posted...

Last experiment into lab-grown meat ended in something that apparently tastes of despair.

The fuck are you talking about?

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/163107-worlds-first-lab-grown-burger-eaten-by-humans-tastes-like-despair
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Funkydog posted...

There are other ways to get the nutrients we need, and even lessening the amount of meat people eat drastically would go a long way to help.

And yes, it would put people out of a job. But guess what, so does moving away from coal etc. But just means people need to move with the times and get new skills. We can't continue to practise things that are harmful just because people would need get new training/different jobs.

so basically...uh...

"learn to code" ?

lmfao. And Democrats wonder why some people are against their policies? All you want to do is take away. Take away meat, take away a means of protection, take away gasoline powered cars, take away all forms of electric except hydro and wind, and tax us into oblivion.

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Solar_Crimson posted...

millions of animals are bred and imprisoned in nightmarish conditions

the former is not mutually exclusive with the latter.


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garlic powder posted...

so basically...uh...

"learn to code" ?

lmfao. And Democrats wonder why some people are against their policies? All you want to do is take away. Take away meat, take away a means of protection, and tax us into oblivion.

They will lose their jobs to automation sooner or later anyway. And they can learn to work in the replacement industries just as easily, or plenty of other fields.

Yes, it's unfortunate people will need to lose their jobs but people said the same thing about slavers and various other things we consider abhorent now. It's always been a shit excuse and simply used as a reason to not allow change/progress and it's been ignored in the past. People got over it then and they will now.

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Theres nothing necessary about meat.

But it is necessary to check the karma to account age ratio when responding to trolls on stolen accounts.

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It's amazing that the new precedent is now "you don't need X number of Y!" Or "you don't NEED Z!"

Last I checked, this was America. Land of the free. All these restrictions is too much government. What's next? Uncle Sam is now lecturing me what I can or can't eat for dinner! Uncle Sam is lecturing legal firearm owners that they don't deserve to protect their property and family. Uncle Sam wants to tax everything that isn't "necessary" according to some guy in Washington D.C.

With all due respect, you're so blinded by the idea of climate change, you're failing to realize how you're hurting people. Leave your inner city and take a trip to Georgia. Take a trip to Kansas. Take a trip to Venezuela and take a look how that all developed. Gain a fresh perspective.

Isn't this why we left the tyranny of Great Britain? Too much government up our ass? Now we want to bring it back?


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Eating meat in the current system is definitely immoral. But eating meat most of the time would be immoral. There are a few corner cases where it's not bad (like if you have a pet lama that dies of old age and you eat the remains that's fine) but otherwise I don't understand why people find it so hard to just admit they do something immoral because they enjoy it

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garlic powder posted...

Isn't this why we left the tyranny of Great Britain? Too much government up our ass? Now we want to bring it back?

Oh but this time we have representatives that don't give a fuck about anyone other than the lobbyists that fund their campaigns for them.
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EvalAngell posted...

so you guys are fully OK with slaughterhouses? and don't believe it's barbaric, inhumane and completely disgusting? As the most dominant species on the planet, you don't think we need to do better by these animals? Or do you just believe that slaughterhouses will never go away? I'm confused by your posts.

Why does their treatment matter if theyre going to end up dead anyway?

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the meat industry is an inefficient source of calories for the population. most of our farmland is used for livestock so that they can eat so that we can eventually eat them. the most efficient way of handling the world's nutritional needs is to cut out the animals entirely. we would use way less land and crops

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It's definitely wrong. I just don't care enough to change my lifestyle.

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BigDoinks posted...

im saying that your statement about people viewing slaughterhouses the same way they view human slavery is absolutely silly.

Silly? It's arguably even worse. Go see what goes on in slaughterhouses before you post again. Slaves had it good compared to what these animals go through. Incoming "how dare I compare the life and treatment of a cow or pig to that of a human!" Regardless, there will come a point in history when humans are like "wtf were we thinking utilizing slaughterhouses." It obviously won't be when you and I are still alive. But there will be change at some point in time.

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I love meat though, and I don't think eating animals is inherently wrong

coh posted...

I love meat though, and I don't think eating animals is inherently wrong

I never said it was. But the slaughterhouses should give anyone pause.

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lmao, this is a bad topic. How is meat necessary? I've been vegan for almost 5 years now.

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Solar_Crimson posted...

I never said it was. But the slaughterhouses should give anyone pause.

I do agree that animals could be treated better.

I think veal is wrong for that reason