Board 8 > What exactly made Battletoads & Double Dragon "The Ultimate Team"?

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Turducken
01/14/20 10:58:28 AM
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I mean that's a pretty lofty title and I must say it leaves me confused. Like, look, I get what the Toads bring to the table. They've got the tech, they've got the vehicles, they've got the communications systems, a friggin' spaceship, they've got the muscle and the the brains too thanks to Prof. T. Bird, they've got wild transmogrifying attacks that turn their hands and feet into drills, hammers, chainsaws, battleaxes...

The part that gets me confused is how adding a pair of martial artists to that mix ends up with The Ultimate Team? And don't get me wrong, I love the Double Dragons--even more than the Toads, in fact. But it's simple math that they don't really have anything to offer beyond being pretty good hand-to-hand fighters! No weapons, no special skills, no knowledge to share really, it's like, c'mon man!

Can someone explain this to me?!
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HashtagSEP
01/14/20 11:42:36 AM
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They're human and were better for PR.

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Heroic Bigpun
01/14/20 11:48:50 AM
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Image if you said "btw I have two Bruce lees"

You'd call yourself the ultimate team too

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Lopen
01/14/20 12:09:23 PM
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Little known fact The Ultimate Team was actually Dark Queen and Shadow Boss

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Turducken
01/14/20 6:37:37 PM
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It still drives me nuts that they made up a nemesis for the Dragons in that game. Who the fuck is the "Shadow Boss"? You couldn't just use Willy?!
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bryans7
01/14/20 7:11:59 PM
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Turducken posted...
It still drives me nuts that they made up a nemesis for the Dragons in that game. Who the fuck is the "Shadow Boss"? You couldn't just use Willy?!

I believe that had to do with the Double Dragon cartoon they were pushing hard at the time. DD5 (the fighting game) was based on it.

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Punnyz
01/14/20 7:19:10 PM
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whats funny is Roper, the guy with spiked shoulder pads, has a machine gun instead and is like the 3rd boss, even though Roper is one of the mookiest of the mooks in the first game. Its like they mixed him up with Willy

and the "Shadow Boss", the head of the Black/Shadow Warriors, is ...just a Buff version of Burnov, who is the first boss of Double Dragon 2

I just take this switching around and misnaming as that they seriously had no idea about anything Double Dragon and just wanted to randomly create this crossover while they had the license


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WazzupGenius00
01/14/20 9:59:13 PM
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I think the "Shadow Boss" originally came from the manual for the NES version of the first game where that was the name they made up for the leader of the Black Warriors (which the manual also immediately spoils as Jimmy) and the name just proliferated from there with all the ports that were based on that version rather than the arcade version

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Lucavi000
01/14/20 10:06:33 PM
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yeah, shadow boss has been around since the first game but they him not Jimmy lee cause of the cartoon show.

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Heroic Bigpun
01/14/20 11:11:44 PM
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https://youtu.be/jX6JMtpYY_U

By the way the stage 3 music is awesome

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Turducken
01/15/20 4:12:05 AM
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Did the Shadow Boss have that design in the manual?
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WazzupGenius00
01/15/20 3:18:30 PM
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the NES manual? No, it straight up says it's your brother Jimmy and just has a picture of him

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