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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/12/20 12:21:34 PM
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After a bit of a break from the game I return, just starting the second chapter.

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Gakk86
01/12/20 12:26:41 PM
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You rolling 5 Archers yet?

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/12/20 1:16:07 PM
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Nah. Got Ramza as a Monk right now, have a Knight/Chemist, a Knight who will go to Samurai, Thief to Ninja eventually, Black Mage who will keep moving into Time etc.

Also Boco now.

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Gakk86
01/12/20 1:50:30 PM
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Make sure to manipulate the enemies into placing themselves in a line so you can hit 3 at a time with Earth Slash, feel really accomplished at your tactical genius, and then do like 18 damage to each because you forgot they were wearing equipment that resists earth damage.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/12/20 7:48:50 PM
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I have a Chocobo trapped in a corner and everything else is dead. I could just be a dick and gain JP to the moon, but dunno if I wanna try to break the game too much.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/13/20 6:01:30 PM
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Delita is still alive. Fuck you jerk!

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Panthera
01/13/20 6:08:17 PM
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Chapter 2 is where you start getting actual options for equipment and can thus start really getting silly (stat boosts and stuff like increasing elemental damage is generally waaaaaayyyyy stronger than the HP/MP boosts equipment can give)

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Keith_Valentine
01/13/20 6:09:37 PM
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Love that game. Played the shit out of it back in the day.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/14/20 7:42:28 PM
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Is it better just to Steel (+5 Bravery) or Mettle (+1 Attack) if I'm just using a turn to get JP?

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jumi
01/14/20 9:52:22 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Delita is still alive. Fuck you jerk!

Pimps don't die, they just get laid.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/15/20 5:46:46 PM
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jumi posted...
Pimps don't die, they just get laid.

Any time he is in my party I purposefully kill him.

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jumi
01/16/20 4:52:14 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Any time he is in my party I purposefully kill him.

Not even a white mage can treat that butthurt.

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PMarth2002
01/16/20 5:00:22 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Is it better just to Steel (+5 Bravery) or Mettle (+1 Attack) if I'm just using a turn to get JP?

XP/JP gain is based on the level of the target compared to the character acting. You get more XP/JP against higher level targets. Its a flat 10 for someone your level and 1 point more/less for each difference in level.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/16/20 10:04:57 AM
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PMarth2002 posted...
XP/JP gain is based on the level of the target compared to the character acting. You get more XP/JP against higher level targets. Its a flat 10 for someone your level and 1 point more/less for each difference in level.

You don't get anything if it misses, so the other concern is whichever has a higher chance of hitting.

Which will likely give you more of a physical boost? Focus or Steel?

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PMarth2002
01/16/20 10:52:15 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Which will likely give you more of a physical boost? Focus or Steel?

Had to look up what those abilities were in the original game. Hate that they changed all the names, it makes talking to people who only played WotL difficult.

Raising PA makes you do more damage during the fight.

Raising brave just makes you more likely to get your reaction off, but raising it during a fight will give a slight permanent increase (1/4 of whatever you raised it by). You can get your brave as high as 97. You can do it with faith too, but generic characters will leave your party if you raise it above 90 or so.

If you need to do it to win the fight, i'd recommend raising PA. If you want to make your character better in the long run, raise brave.

Oh, and if you lower your brave below 10, you turn into a chicken.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/16/20 7:45:45 PM
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I always found it interesting how Ramza is really the only Beoulve who reflects his father, regardless of who his mother was.

Fuck you Dycedarg.

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Bad_Mojo
01/16/20 7:52:17 PM
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jumi
01/16/20 9:09:14 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
I always found it interesting how Ramza is really the only Beoulve who reflects his father, regardless of who his mother was.

Fuck you Dycedarg.

Dycedarg was a rat bastard. Zalbag was at least halfway decent even though he was an asshole.

I like the part where Dycedarg hired Gafgarion to kill Ramza and Gafgarion mouths off about how much of a bastard Dycedarg is to kill his own brother.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/16/20 9:37:21 PM
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The church turned their back on me.

Fuck the church.

Delita tells me half-truths in Warjilis.

Fuck Delita.

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jumi
01/16/20 10:03:57 PM
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Delita's just doing what he has to do to capture the crown and make the world a better place.

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Gakk86
01/16/20 10:06:51 PM
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How could anyone hate Delita? Dude faced a world telling him he wasn't worth anything because of how he was born and took it over. He's a supreme badass, the only bad thing is that he's stuck as a guest when you have him.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/16/20 10:19:01 PM
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Gakk86 posted...
How could anyone hate Delita? Dude faced a world telling him he wasn't worth anything because of how he was born and took it over. He's a supreme badass, the only bad thing is that he's stuck as a guest when you have him.

Instead of telling his best friend in the world (and basically his brother) his plans, he uses him the same as everyone else. Delita knows Ramza is a better person than he is, and turns to using the same actions those he despised did.

Delita becomes what he hates in the end: an aristocrat who uses everyone around him to gain power.

He is NO better than Zalbaag or Dycedarg.

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ssjevot
01/16/20 10:23:21 PM
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Delita is not a good person. He is an example of becoming what you hate as TC put it.

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jumi
01/16/20 10:39:46 PM
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He does what he has to do. He made sacrifices to make the world a better place.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/16/20 10:56:53 PM
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jumi posted...
He does what he has to do. He made sacrifices to make the world a better place.

He sacrifices everything he stood for to become a King and push his own values on an entire kingdom with the only reason he is in that position is murder and using a Princess for her position.

Oh, and it only works because he turns his back on his adoptive father's amazing teachings and Ramza, who is actually doing the right thing.

Definitely made the world a better place

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Tsukasa1891
01/17/20 12:00:53 AM
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Thanks for reminding me FFT is a thing. Now I want to give it another try. I played twice before, but I can't really remember anything about it. Only things I can remember was this one point where one of the character was like "You know what would be awesome? Killing some random peasants" and everyone else just went along with it. Then this one point where I hit a wall and take forever to progress because some enemies have 99% evasion.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/19/20 3:47:40 AM
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Bad_Mojo
01/19/20 4:12:08 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/19/20 4:21:38 AM
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I've got a nice motif going for this topic. >_>

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/19/20 5:37:24 AM
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Ovelia is now Queen, but Orinus is now King?

War of the Lions is now on!

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/19/20 6:34:35 AM
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I forgot that Chemists can use guns.

That makes them so damn useful. I have a Chemist/Knight that can Rend stuff with Guns I assume?

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/19/20 6:52:16 AM
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I now have a 2nd set of units that I can call upon if necessary. Red Chocobo clan, GO!

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tiornys
01/19/20 9:48:31 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
I have a Chemist/Knight that can Rend stuff with Guns I assume?
Yep. That's a classic combo.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/20/20 5:43:34 AM
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I wonder how often these Errands are worth it.

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Bad_Mojo
01/20/20 7:32:57 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
I wonder how often these Errands are worth it.

Wow, I forgot those even exist, lol

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philsov
01/20/20 10:34:29 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
I wonder how often these Errands are worth it.


They usually are, but I'm lazy and just stick to the double-blues (Igros and Fort Zeakden, e.g.) it's usually a quick 150 JP for my crew.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/21/20 4:24:50 PM
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Does Monk and Samurai work well together?

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philsov
01/21/20 4:58:18 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Does Monk and Samurai work well together?


It's suboptimal. Most of the time a Samurai is using Draw Out, which is MA based (and honestly better on a female and/or geomancer or magic classe). and Punch art is PA based. Not that you can stack either of them because Samurai equipment options (heavy armor) don't allow for much stat tweaking. Also there's some overlap with the damage skills; Kiku is basically identical to earth slash, Chakra is only good for MP curing when you have murasame, etc. Good utility with stigma Magic and Revive, I guess.

Monk and Ninja work muuuuch better together. Ninjas get light armor to boost their sp or PA and innate dual wield is broken.
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Bad_Mojo
01/21/20 4:59:36 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Does Monk and Samurai work well together?

Not really. Draw Out is based on Magic Attack and Samurais are too slow to punch everyone to death. I like Time Mage with Draw our so you can buff and kill

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/21/20 8:03:40 PM
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Gakk86
01/21/20 8:07:01 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
What mixes well with Monk then?
Ninja. A Ninja with Martial Arts as an ability and Punch Arts as a secondary is a nigh-unparalleled force of enemy murder. Every enemy on the map is in range on every turn, woe to the foolish enemy mage who puts his hands up.

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Bad_Mojo
01/21/20 8:17:22 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
What mixes well with Monk then?

Ramza as a Squire works really well as well because of Accumulate, but then you get unique skills in the other chapters for his Squire Job as well

As above mentioned, Ninjas with Monk skills is OP. One of the strongest combos in the game

Bard does well with Bare Fist if only to defend himself

Thieves do really well with Bare First as well because it helps them Steal a bit more

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Bad_Mojo
01/22/20 1:48:27 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/22/20 7:37:11 PM
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Moving Ramza away from Samurai and into Ninja instead.

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tiornys
01/22/20 7:56:39 PM
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Ramza does great at Ninja, of course, but it's notable that he also makes an excellent Samurai. Samurai is one of the jobs that lets him capitalize on having male PA and female MA. I like to train him on Iaido and set it secondary in Ubersquire since that's a build that only he can really pull off, whereas any generic male makes a great Ninja/Monk.
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Bad_Mojo
01/22/20 10:11:29 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/22/20 10:35:59 PM
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How well does Haste offset the slowness of Samurai?

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Bad_Mojo
01/22/20 11:20:49 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
How well does Haste offset the slowness of Samurai?

Rather well since Draw Out is instant and requires no CT. It's why I favor Time Mage with Draw Out over Wizard

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/22/20 11:29:59 PM
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Zalbaag basically wouldn't believe a word of what I said about the war and insulted my "common mother"

Fuck Zalbaag.

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