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BlingBling22947 01/11/20 6:23:13 PM #1:	always obligated to report child sexual abuse to authorities due to an exemption in Montana state law, reversing a $35 million abuse verdict against Jehovah's Witnesses. https://www.npr.org/2020/01/09/795019348/montana-court-reverses-35-million-child-abuse-verdict-against-jehovahs-witnesses What? --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:932786011] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>always obligated to report child sexual abuse to authorities due to an exemption in Montana state law, reversing a $35 million abuse verdict against Jehovah's Witnesses. https://www.npr.org/2020/01/09/795019348/montana-court-reverses-35-million-child-abuse-verdict-against-jehovahs-witnesses What? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 01/12/20 11:48:45 PM #2:	The 'justice' system has failed once again --- https://i.imgtc.ws/sQvRQV7.jpg https://imgtc.ws/i/lT4IPDD.png <cite>Doe posted [p:932849193] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>The 'justice' system has failed once again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 01/12/20 11:52:51 PM #3:	Doe posted... The 'justice' system has failed once again Eh, not really. Like, I think it's bull shit, but I also think it's bull shit that lawyers have to keep quite on crimes they know about as well. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:932849313] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>The 'justice' system has failed once again</quote> Eh, not really. Like, I think it's bull shit, but I also think it's bull shit that lawyers have to keep quite on crimes they know about as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImagineUsngAlts 01/12/20 11:54:32 PM #4:	Zombie marvs <cite>ImagineUsngAlts posted [p:932849379] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Zombie marvs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorbidFaithless 01/13/20 12:23:08 AM #5:	And they wonder why religion is dying. --- walk like thunder <cite>MorbidFaithless posted [p:932850317] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>And they wonder why religion is dying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 01/13/20 12:24:47 AM #6:	religion of peace --- Now Playing: Borderlands 2, Skyrim, Assassin's Creed <cite>MrMallard posted [p:932850357] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>religion of peace </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 01/13/20 1:16:37 AM #8:	Zangulus posted... In what way do you think the justice system reverting child molestation charges is the system not failing? I didn't word it correctly. What I'm saying is if you think that's bull shit, then you should also think defense lawyers not having to tell police, correction, CAN'T tell police about crimes is also bull shit. @Zangulus , do you think defense lawyers should be able to narc out their clients? --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:932851938] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Zangulus posted... </cite> <quote>In what way do you think the justice system reverting child molestation charges is the system not failing?</quote> I didn't word it correctly. What I'm saying is if you think that's bull shit, then you should also think defense lawyers not having to tell police, correction, CAN'T tell police about crimes is also bull shit. @Zangulus , do you think defense lawyers should be able to narc out their clients? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 01/13/20 1:30:48 AM #10:	Zangulus posted... When they know of an egregious crime like fucking children, then absolutely. But they legally can't. And as BS as it is, I think confession falls under the same law, as in they can't narc out the people that come to them and confess. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:932852287] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Zangulus posted... </cite> <quote>When they know of an egregious crime like fucking children, then absolutely.</quote> But they legally can't. And as BS as it is, I think confession falls under the same law, as in they can't narc out the people that come to them and confess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/13/20 2:17:21 AM #11:	So... get rid of the exemption. Duh. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:932853478] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>So... get rid of the exemption. Duh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlingBling22947 01/14/20 7:37:11 PM #13:	Its the reverse of Oregon. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:932935169] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Its the reverse of Oregon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 01/16/20 6:46:04 AM #15:	The law is the law, you can't just have the courts pulling exceptions out of their ass to get a conviction. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:933005232] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>The law is the law, you can't just have the courts pulling exceptions out of their ass to get a conviction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlingBling22947 01/19/20 5:54:35 AM #17:	My friend's family was in JW when she was young. Her whole family was abused (in every way) by the stepfather. Her mother was told by church Elders to be "more submissive" to the stepfather to stop his fits of rage. When my friend and her sister finally named him and the DA brought charges against him, the JW church paid for the stepfather's defense AND acted as character witnesses. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:933165414] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>My friend's family was in JW when she was young. Her whole family was abused (in every way) by the stepfather. Her mother was told by church Elders to be "more submissive" to the stepfather to stop his fits of rage. When my friend and her sister finally named him and the DA brought charges against him, the JW church paid for the stepfather's defense AND acted as character witnesses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 01/19/20 6:07:51 AM #18:	BlingBling22947 posted... My friend's family was in JW when she was young. Her whole family was abused (in every way) by the stepfather. Her mother was told by church Elders to be "more submissive" to the stepfather to stop his fits of rage. When my friend and her sister finally named him and the DA brought charges against him, the JW church paid for the stepfather's defense AND acted as character witnesses. Wow that's fucking unreal. Bad things upon them all. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:933165601] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>BlingBling22947 posted... </cite> <quote>My friend's family was in JW when she was young. Her whole family was abused (in every way) by the stepfather. Her mother was told by church Elders to be "more submissive" to the stepfather to stop his fits of rage. When my friend and her sister finally named him and the DA brought charges against him, the JW church paid for the stepfather's defense AND acted as character witnesses.</quote>Wow that's fucking unreal. Bad things upon them all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 01/19/20 10:51:19 AM #19:	BlingBling22947 posted... My friend's family was in JW when she was young. Her whole family was abused (in every way) by the stepfather. Her mother was told by church Elders to be "more submissive" to the stepfather to stop his fits of rage. When my friend and her sister finally named him and the DA brought charges against him, the JW church paid for the stepfather's defense AND acted as character witnesses. What ended up happening with the court case? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:933171283] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>BlingBling22947 posted... </cite> <quote>My friend's family was in JW when she was young. Her whole family was abused (in every way) by the stepfather. Her mother was told by church Elders to be "more submissive" to the stepfather to stop his fits of rage. When my friend and her sister finally named him and the DA brought charges against him, the JW church paid for the stepfather's defense AND acted as character witnesses.</quote>What ended up happening with the court case? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 01/20/20 8:06:03 PM #20:	he was found guilty and went to prison :) --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:933244509] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>he was found guilty and went to prison :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 01/22/20 7:32:14 PM #21:	~~religion is the ultimate evil~~ --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:933342337] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>religion is the ultimate evil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 01/23/20 3:28:28 AM #22:	BlingBling22947 posted... he was found guilty and went to prison :) Well that's good to hear. Seems like more often than not the win is awarded to whichever party has more money/resources to throw around, sadly --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:933359332] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>BlingBling22947 posted... </cite> <quote>he was found guilty and went to prison :)</quote>Well that's good to hear. Seems like more often than not the win is awarded to whichever party has more money/resources to throw around, sadly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 01/23/20 4:05:33 AM #23:	The fact that there are laws in supposedly civilized places explicitly allowing religions organizations to be above the law and free to condone abusive behavior is disgusting --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:933359980] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>The fact that there are laws in supposedly civilized places explicitly allowing religions organizations to be above the law and free to condone abusive behavior is disgusting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/23/20 9:36:13 AM #24:	Panthera posted... The fact that there are laws in supposedly civilized places explicitly allowing religions organizations to be above the law and free to condone abusive behavior is disgusting Overall, most of these exemptions aren't beyond the scope of the same sort of "confidentiality" a lawyer, doctor, therapist, or accountant would have. Tax-exempt status is what we should be looking at. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:933366056] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted... </cite> <quote>The fact that there are laws in supposedly civilized places explicitly allowing religions organizations to be above the law and free to condone abusive behavior is disgusting</quote>Overall, most of these exemptions aren't beyond the scope of the same sort of "confidentiality" a lawyer, doctor, therapist, or accountant would have. Tax-exempt status is what we should be looking at. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 01/23/20 9:54:57 AM #25:	Zangulus posted... Courts can, and have, set precedent to reverse laws because of various reasons. The "various reasons" always come down to "this law is invalid, because this other law makes it invalid". The courts can't just go "this is a dumb law, so we're scrapping it". <cite>JE19426 posted [p:933366649] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Zangulus posted... </cite> <quote>Courts can, and have, set precedent to reverse laws because of various reasons.</quote> The "various reasons" always come down to "this law is invalid, because this other law makes it invalid". The courts can't just go "this is a dumb law, so we're scrapping it". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperShake666 01/23/20 9:56:23 AM #26:	Fuck organized religion and fuck the courts for defending this. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:933366714] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Fuck organized religion and fuck the courts for defending this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShotOJameson 01/25/20 3:55:53 AM #28:	Montana has a whole bunch of weird laws. Some wild west stuff. --- https://imgur.com/Bz19U <cite>ShotOJameson posted [p:933452642] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Montana has a whole bunch of weird laws. Some wild west stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 01/25/20 4:32:02 AM #29:	Questionmarktarius posted... Overall, most of these exemptions aren't beyond the scope of the same sort of "confidentiality" a lawyer, doctor, therapist, or accountant would have. The difference is, most of those are necessary for the job those people do in some way. Lawyers need to maintain confidentiality to ensure people maintain their right to a fair trial. Medical professionals have to maintain privacy because violating it, in addition to just being highly immoral, can also endanger people. Religious institutions though? They just get to be above the law and the freedom to ensure their members can be as abusive as they want without consequence. --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:933453196] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Overall, most of these exemptions aren't beyond the scope of the same sort of "confidentiality" a lawyer, doctor, therapist, or accountant would have.</quote> The difference is, most of those are necessary for the job those people do in some way. Lawyers need to maintain confidentiality to ensure people maintain their right to a fair trial. Medical professionals have to maintain privacy because violating it, in addition to just being highly immoral, can also endanger people. Religious institutions though? They just get to be above the law and the freedom to ensure their members can be as abusive as they want without consequence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 01/25/20 11:22:14 AM #31:	Zangulus posted... This totally means the system hasn't failed. If you say so. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:933461006] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Zangulus posted... </cite> <quote>This totally means the system hasn't failed.</quote> If you say so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 01/25/20 6:10:36 PM #33:	Zangulus posted... Youre really arguing allowing people to get away with raping children means the system hasnt failed? Not at all. That's your claim. All I said was that courts can't just willy-nilly demand the law change. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:933476154] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Zangulus posted... </cite> <quote>Youre really arguing allowing people to get away with raping children means the system hasnt failed?</quote> Not at all. That's your claim. All I said was that courts can't just willy-nilly demand the law change. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 01/26/20 4:38:16 AM #35:	Zangulus posted... So youre arguing something Im not talking about. Dude, you literally said: Courts can, and have, set precedent to reverse laws because of various reasons. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:933496888] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Zangulus posted... </cite> <quote>So youre arguing something Im not talking about.</quote> Dude, you literally said: <quote>Courts can, and have, set precedent to reverse laws because of various reasons.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 01/26/20 3:02:14 PM #37:	Zangulus posted... Which. They have. Youre arguing it. For some reason. Like it matters. IN A TOPIC ABOUT THE COURTS FORGIVING CHILD RAPISTS. If you don't think it matters, why did you bring it up? <cite>JE19426 posted [p:933512327] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Zangulus posted... </cite> <quote>Which. They have. Youre arguing it. For some reason. Like it matters. IN A TOPIC ABOUT THE COURTS FORGIVING CHILD RAPISTS.</quote> If you don't think it matters, why did you bring it up? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 01/29/20 6:19:10 AM #39:	Th3Truth posted... Because they have And? If it's unimportant to the topic at hand, it's just bringing up irrelevant things. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:933635337] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Th3Truth posted... </cite> <quote>Because they have</quote> And? If it's unimportant to the topic at hand, it's just bringing up irrelevant things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 01/31/20 3:54:08 AM #41:	Th3Truth posted... This topic is about courts and bad laws so why is it irrelevant? That's a good question, maybe Zangulus can explain it to you, they're the one claiming it doesn't matter. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:933724051] in "A Mo... [t:78322988]...</cite> <quote>Th3Truth posted... </cite> <quote>This topic is about courts and bad laws so why is it irrelevant?</quote> That's a good question, maybe Zangulus can explain it to you, they're the one claiming it doesn't matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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