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BeantownHero
01/10/20 1:31:22 PM
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It may have been a fairy tale wedding, but Meghan Markle and her husband, Prince Harry, with a life bound to Buckingham Palace, were not destined for happily ever after.
Marrying into the monarchy and becoming The Duchess of Sussex didnt upend the system. It sucked Markle into a Royal nightmare.
Earlier this week, Prince Harry and Markle announced they would be stepping back as senior members of the Royal Family. The goal is to balance their lives between the UK and North America. They plan to live financially independent of the Monarchy (hes still a prince with inherited wealth and she didnt come to the palace broke) while still supporting Her Majesty The Queen. And the pearl-clutching was instant.

Londons Madame Tussauds museum swiftly split the waxworks of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex apart from its Royal Family set. Some celebrated, claiming Meghan stole a prince. Memes took over Twitter, calling it a dismantling of the monarchy and the Megxit.
Others called the move hypocritical and privileged, labeling it a shirking of responsibility.
This is not ditching the laundry. Its not running off with a luxurious title while escaping hard work.
This is a life-or-death decision. Paparazzi chased Princess Diana to her death. That was in 1997, before social media, hashtags, and even mainstream news took on tabloid tendencies. In her case, racism wasnt even a factor.
Her son, Prince Harry, does not want that fate for his wife. He was worried about her safety when she was his girlfriend. Its only gotten worse. As a family, they chose the less dangerous path.
Racism is already deadly for everyday black folk. Add the Royal frenzy and the brutality of British tabloids to the mix and Meghan became a Black American woman on an international tight rope.

When they first got engaged, Good Morning America" and The Guardian tried to make it seem like Markles future with the prince was a black womans hope. Im Team Meghan, who was a queen long before Harry, but I knew that marriage wouldnt change a thing in an era of the xenophobic Brexit, Trump, and Black Lives Matter.
There is no highness high enough to transcend racism and supremacy. Before Harry put a ring on it, Meghan became a magnet for hate. The Daily Mails headline in November 2016: Harrys girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang-scarred home of her mother revealed - so will he be dropping by for tea?
British tabloids immediately took to painting her as Duchess Difficult and created a feud between her and Kate Middleton. Theyve only been married for a year and a half. In that time, shes been abused by the public while pregnant and newly wed. Shes been expected to keep a stiff upper lip and maintain poise and grace while being attacked for simply loving a prince, having a baby, and having the audacity to be a happy black woman.
Last year, BBC broadcaster Danny Baker compared Prince Harry and Meghans newborn Archie to a chimpanzee. He was fired. BBC also aired a blatantly racist animated depiction of Meghan as an angry black woman. Being biracial does not give her a get out of racism free pass. Everything from her baby shower to her guest-editing of British Vogue has been vilified.



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pinky0926
01/10/20 1:33:27 PM
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As a proud British person may I say

I don't give a single fuck about this entire thing, and I don't understand people that do

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LRodC
01/10/20 1:34:08 PM
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Tldr

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thronedfire2
01/10/20 1:34:23 PM
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Idk i thought she was Italian

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pinky0926
01/10/20 1:36:03 PM
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Actually I take that back.

Seeing the nonsensical pearl clutching from tories and brexiteers gives me a savage pleasure in how gracefully it's outing this antiquated aristocracy

I will say though, I dont think americans quite grasp this problem very well. The problem for these conservative fuckwads isn't that she's black. It's that she's American.

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Alpha218
01/10/20 1:39:20 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
As a proud British person may I say

I don't give a single fuck about this entire thing, and I don't understand people that do
Tell me about it dude. Im in the US and people wont stop talking about the royal family, and this bullshit. Youd think wed lost the Revolutionary War with how much people care about this

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darkphoenix181
01/10/20 1:40:29 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
As a proud British person may I say

I don't give a single fuck about this entire thing, and I don't understand people that do

Many Americans like to make everything about race. They are practically obsessed with it to the point of seeing it where the issue does not exist.
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darkphoenix181
01/10/20 1:41:22 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
The problem for these conservative f***wads isn't that she's black. It's that she's American.

An American who said "fuck it" to all the long established royal rules.
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Lorenzo_2003
01/10/20 1:42:09 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
As a proud British person may I say

I don't give a single fuck about this entire thing, and I don't understand people that do

As a Brit, do you know if the couple have actually said that the reason they are stepping away is because of Markle being black and the backlash to that, or is that just speculation on the part of the media, public, etc.?

This isnt the first time for royalty to step away from the pressures of living such a scrutinized life.

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pinky0926
01/10/20 1:42:54 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
An American who said "fuck it" to all the long established royal rules.

Precisely. To these toffy tweed wearing wankers the traditions from 1604 or really anything prior to the past two centuries must be obeyed above all. To have a colonial come in with her loud voice and indelicate sensibilities to shake up the household...why, it's just not cricket!

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Alpha218
01/10/20 1:44:26 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
As a Brit, do you know if the couple have actually said that the reason they are stepping away is because of Markle being black and the backlash to that, or is that just speculation on the part of the media, public, etc.?

This isnt the first time for royalty to step away from the pressures of living such a scrutinized life.
I mean its blatantly clear that she at the very least (not sure about Harry) didnt like being constrained by all of the Royal rules and bullshit

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pinky0926
01/10/20 1:45:55 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
As a Brit, do you know if the couple have actually said that the reason they are stepping away is because of Markle being black and the backlash to that, or is that just speculation on the part of the media, public, etc.?

This isnt the first time for royalty to step away from the pressures of living such a scrutinized life.

In traditional royal style a transparent reason will never be given. Although I suspect harry never wanted to be a royal to begin with. Everything hes ever done suggests as much.

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Lorenzo_2003
01/10/20 1:46:36 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
I mean its blatantly clear that she at the very least (not sure about Harry) didnt like being constrained by all of the Royal rules and bullshit

Yeah, I dont think I could live that way. Of course there are also perks, but the whole experience seems so exhausting.

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BeantownHero
01/10/20 1:50:14 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Tell me about it dude. Im in the US and people wont stop talking about the royal family, and this bullshit. Youd think wed lost the Revolutionary War with how much people care about this

I mean...its obviously a big deal to people in England. Its also, yet another stark reminder that white supremacy is still very much alive and well

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darkphoenix181
01/10/20 1:50:51 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
Its also, yet another stark reminder that white supremacy is still very much alive and well

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spudger
01/10/20 1:51:32 PM
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I honestly thought England was better with racism than this
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squee
01/10/20 1:51:48 PM
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so tc are you aware it's not about race and the idiot that wrote that article has no idea why she's disliked?
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Solar_Crimson
01/10/20 2:00:37 PM
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I still await the day when one of the princesses marries a Black man.

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BeantownHero
01/10/20 2:01:17 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
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There is no highness high enough to transcend racism and supremacy. Before Harry put a ring on it, Meghan became a magnet for hate. The Daily Mails headline in November 2016: Harrys girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang-scarred home of her mother revealed - so will he be dropping by for tea?
British tabloids immediately took to painting her as Duchess Difficult and created a feud between her and Kate Middleton. Theyve only been married for a year and a half. In that time, shes been abused by the public while pregnant and newly wed. Shes been expected to keep a stiff upper lip and maintain poise and grace while being attacked for simply loving a prince, having a baby, and having the audacity to be a happy black woman.
Last year, BBC broadcaster Danny Baker compared Prince Harry and Meghans newborn Archie to a chimpanzee. He was fired. BBC also aired a blatantly racist animated depiction of Meghan as an angry black woman

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Bio1590
01/10/20 2:01:44 PM
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Yeah it'd be a lot easier to claim it was about race if an extremely similar thing hadn't happened with Edward VIII which is the entire reason Elizabeth is even the Queen right now
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Elmer_Glue
01/10/20 2:03:17 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
I mean...its obviously a big deal to people in England. Its also, yet another stark reminder that white supremacy is still very much alive and well
darkphoenix181 posted...
Many Americans like to make everything about race. They are practically obsessed with it to the point of seeing it where the issue does not exist.


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darkphoenix181
01/10/20 2:06:19 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Yeah it'd be a lot easier to claim it was about race if an extremely similar thing hadn't happened with Edward VIII which is the entire reason Elizabeth is even the Queen right now

Yep. Tc is obviously trolling and trying to race bait.
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pinky0926
01/10/20 2:06:52 PM
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It's fair enough to argue race is a factor IMO, but Americans are missing the mark because all social discourse in America these days is about race.

You know what the no.1 topic is in the UK? Class. And there's no lower class according to the british aristocracy than an American.

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darkphoenix181
01/10/20 2:08:30 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
And there's no lower class according to the british aristocracy than an American.

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ThePieReborn
01/10/20 2:09:17 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
And there's no lower class according to the british aristocracy than an American.
*monocle falls into can of Coors Lite*

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spudger
01/10/20 2:10:02 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
It's fair enough to argue race is a factor IMO, but Americans are missing the mark because all social discourse in America these days is about race.

You know what the no.1 topic is in the UK? Class. And there's no lower class according to the british aristocracy than an American.

Damn they still mad about 1776
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Wewillrocku
01/10/20 2:10:09 PM
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o...kay

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Zack_Attackv1
01/10/20 2:10:53 PM
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I don't even know what's going on.
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Makeveli_lives
01/10/20 2:12:38 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Yeah it'd be a lot easier to claim it was about race if an extremely similar thing hadn't happened with Edward VIII which is the entire reason Elizabeth is even the Queen right now
I'm assuming your talking about the one that gave up the right to the throne to marry an American woman so the current queens father got the role instead. If so, I thought that was because she was divorced. As in they couldn't get a royal marriage recognized because of the religious implications of it all.

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obeseexplosive
01/10/20 2:13:59 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
You know what the no.1 topic is in the UK? Class. And there's no lower class according to the british aristocracy than an American.

*Clutches pearls*

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Tyranthraxus
01/10/20 2:17:20 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Tell me about it dude. Im in the US and people wont stop talking about the royal family, and this bullshit. Youd think wed lost the Revolutionary War with how much people care about this

Yeah. I honestly get kind of annoyed when Americans / American publications refer to various celebrities by their knighted titles (like Elton John) because it's literally a violation of emoluments clause.


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pinky0926
01/10/20 2:18:21 PM
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spudger posted...
Damn they still mad about 1776

spudger posted...
Damn they still mad about 1776

I dont think so, honestly. Yes, we lost a war a few hundred years ago. In British history there's an awful lot of that. I understand the war of independence was a fundamental point in history for America, but for the Brits it's just one of many disappointments in the end of an empire.

If I had to guess, it's that everything that's important to the british ruling class is antithetical to the American way of life. You just rub them the wrong way.


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BeantownHero
01/10/20 2:19:24 PM
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*Provides multiple examples of racism displayed by british press*

"WhY iS It AlWaYs AbOuT rAcE?"

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obeseexplosive
01/10/20 2:19:35 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...


Yeah. I honestly get kind of annoyed when Americans / American publications refer to various celebrities by their knighted titles (like Elton John) because it's literally a violation of emoluments clause.



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UnfairRepresent
01/10/20 2:19:42 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...


Yeah. I honestly get kind of annoyed when Americans / American publications refer to various celebrities by their knighted titles (like Elton John) because it's literally a violation of emoluments clause.


Dude no one cares anymore.

The UK and US are strong allies

Tony Blair was right there with us in the Middle East when France chickened out
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squee
01/10/20 2:22:02 PM
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>people who know better than TC try to educate him and why the article written by a joke of a journalist looking for the latest circle jerk to get people annoyed over
>TC ignores it and falls for the clickbait

I don't get it.
She's disliked because she's seen as lower class.
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BeantownHero
01/10/20 2:22:48 PM
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squee posted...
>people who know better than TC try to educate him and why the article written by a joke of a journalist looking for the latest circle jerk to get people annoyed over
>TC ignores it and falls for the clickbait

I don't get it.
She's disliked because she's seen as lower class.


...now it's a joke article? So archie wasnt compared to monkey?

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squee
01/10/20 2:23:42 PM
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BeantownHero posted...


...now it's a joke article?

"joke of a journalist"
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Jiek_Fafn
01/10/20 2:23:57 PM
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The gorgeous mega rich women have it so hard.

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spudger
01/10/20 2:25:02 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
If I had to guess, it's that everything that's important to the british ruling class is antithetical to the American way of life. You just rub them the wrong way.

yeah, makes sense.

sad, that after all this time that a class system is so heavily prevalent.

do you think, if meghan were a brit, she'd have been more accepted regardless of race?
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BeantownHero
01/10/20 2:26:10 PM
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squee posted...
"joke of a journalist"

you have yet to refute any examples in the article, nor have you explained why the Journalist is a joke.

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squee
01/10/20 2:27:13 PM
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spudger posted...


yeah, makes sense.

sad, that after all this time that a class system is so heavily prevalent.

do you think, if meghan were a brit, she'd have been more accepted regardless of race?

I don't think race is as big a deal as class is. Like, she already was married and divorced. That alone would be enough to have her disliked. Even if she was 100% white instead of just biracial, her history and upbringing alone wouldn't have her well respected by the upper class idiots
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squee
01/10/20 2:27:37 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
you have yet to refute any examples in the article, nor have you explained why the Journalist is a joke.

I didn't because there's no point - the journalist is trying to make it about race when it's not
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BeantownHero
01/10/20 2:33:50 PM
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squee posted...
I didn't because there's no point - the journalist is trying to make it about race when it's not

ITP: lalalala! cant see racism!

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squee
01/10/20 2:35:11 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...

i wouldn't say race isn't a big deal, but the class stuff does matter more, in that if she was full white but still a divorcee with the same personality, she would still be looked down on. the reason why kate is more liked is because she behaves more like a "proper british woman" and came from an aristocratic background.

That's my point is that her being part black is way less of an issue to people than her not being British upper class enough

BeantownHero posted...


ITP: lalalala! cant see racism!

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BeantownHero
01/10/20 2:36:14 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/opinion/meghan-markle-prince-harry.html

another great opinion piece for those who arent metaphorically sticking their fingers in their ears

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Paper_Okami
01/10/20 2:36:16 PM
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All royalty should have to give up their titles, land and money

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Lorenzo_2003
01/10/20 2:37:56 PM
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squee posted...
I don't think race is as big a deal as class is. Like, she already was married and divorced. That alone would be enough to have her disliked. Even if she was 100% white instead of just biracial, her history and upbringing alone wouldn't have her well respected by the upper class idiots

It seems like a lot of people, or at least tabloids, gave Camilla Bowles a lot of shit for not fitting the image of what an ideal woman for royal courtship should be like. I dont think being as white as possible shielded her from any of that condescension and venom.

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