Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1326

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LeonhartFour
01/08/20 12:07:24 AM
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Pretty rare that we close a topic without a new one being ready!

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LeonhartFour
01/08/20 12:08:12 AM
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also this is a pretty impressive showing for DQXI

maybe a GOTD2 wild card

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swirIdude
01/08/20 12:22:21 AM
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Oh right, Game of the Year, forgot all about it.

Way to go Allen, removing RE2 so GameFAQs favorite Zelda can get a spot in the final poll.

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linid0t
01/08/20 12:23:41 AM
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swirIdude posted...
Oh right, Game of the Year, forgot all about it.

Way to go Allen, removing RE2 so GameFAQs favorite Zelda can get a spot in the final poll.

Cant have a finale without the Nintendo requirement
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MetalmindStats
01/08/20 12:27:04 AM
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linid0t posted...
Cant have a finale without the Nintendo requirement
Three Houses would have still been in there with or without RE2 in this poll. Ironically, RE2's omission here probably assures its win in the final GotY poll thanks to Link's Awakening leeching Three Houses.

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LordoftheMorons
01/08/20 12:29:11 AM
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LeonhartFour posted...
also this is a pretty impressive showing for DQXI

maybe a GOTD2 wild card

AFAIK it's been selling pretty well. Hopefully this means Squeenix will localize all of the spinoffs from now on!

Or better yet, localize DQM1+2 and Joker 3 now. I don't care if the 3DS is dead!

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Yuri_LowelI
01/08/20 1:22:33 AM
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swirIdude posted...
Oh right, Game of the Year, forgot all about it.

Way to go Allen, removing RE2 so GameFAQs favorite Zelda can get a spot in the final poll.

RE2 isn't a remake like most of these. This more of a reimagining with compeltely new gamepaly structure

And having Zelda in the final poll just makes Fire Emblem weaker.

RE2 will clean house regardless though.

If KH3 was good this year, it would have won. But the game sucked.

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Yuri_LowelI
01/08/20 1:24:36 AM
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LeonhartFour posted...
also this is a pretty impressive showing for DQXI

maybe a GOTD2 wild card

Is it? I was expecting better

When DQXI comes up in polls on the Switch Board. IT decimates every game even FE.

LA seems to be getting a shit ton of "casual" votes from people who probably didn't even play it.

Either way Its a bit sad because Luigis mansion 3 deserves to be represented FAR more than what is lazy Poor Remake in LA.

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LusterSoldier
01/08/20 2:00:30 AM
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
LA seems to be getting a shit ton of "casual" votes from people who probably didn't even play it.


It's unlikely that LA would have benefited from this in the Switch poll which is more top heavy than the games in this poll. When you factor in the presence of Luigi's Mansion 3, Pokemon, and Super Mario Maker 2, there's far less reason to vote for LA if you haven't played the game because it's more likely you have played one of the other games in the Switch poll.

LA might actually be stronger than the Switch poll would suggest based on the early vote totals in today's poll. This poll has 905 votes at the end of the first hour. For comparison, the Switch poll had 931 votes at the end of the first hour and finished with 9599 votes. Despite the lack of RE2, today's poll is on track for about 9000 to 9400 votes (only slightly less than the Switch poll) while outperforming the PS4 poll by at least 500 votes or more. This poll breaking 9000 votes would imply LA is doing an excellent job at drawing in votes despite not having RE2 in the poll and this poll being less top heavy than the Switch poll. If that's the case here, LA could have more strength than expected.
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spooky96
01/08/20 4:40:00 AM
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tag

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The_Ctes
01/08/20 5:16:21 AM
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Voted FFVIII

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PrinceOfKoopas
01/08/20 7:51:54 AM
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The correct answer is Dragon Quest XI S, but I voted for Ace Attorney to help its vote total.

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abdou
01/08/20 7:59:11 AM
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DQXI S is a remaster? i see it as more a 'definitive edition' of the same game. Also how can RE2 not be on the list? it's an actual full remake...SBAllen does some silly things, hopefully this isn't a bad sign for next contest.

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linid0t
01/08/20 9:27:29 AM
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abdou posted...
DQXI S is a remaster? i see it as more a 'definitive edition' of the same game. Also how can RE2 not be on the list? it's an actual full remake...SBAllen does some silly things, hopefully this isn't a bad sign for next contest.

Maybe hes considering the exclusive 2D experience? I dunno
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SwiftyDC
01/08/20 9:31:41 AM
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ZeldaFAQS

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Lightning Strikes
01/08/20 10:49:51 AM
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Lol Allen putting the knife in Three Houses. Hopefully we get a final, final poll again if RE2 wins but is below 50% which it probably will be.

Also on the subject of Links Awakening and whether it should qualify for GotD as a remake, it is a ground-up new game with changes but using the old design. It is both a new game and a remake. RE2 on the other hand is so new it is barely even a remake - it is almost a reimagining.

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LeonhartFour
01/08/20 10:56:18 AM
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Yeah, RE2 won't win so much with LFF that there's no reason for a final poll. It's not like Three Houses barely beat LA in the Switch poll.

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Advokaiser
01/08/20 1:38:52 PM
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
RE2 will clean house regardless though.

No, it will not clean house...

It will clean THREE HOUSES!

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Advokaiser
01/08/20 1:47:15 PM
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By the way, if you want proof of how weak a remastered game can be compared to its original counterpart, just look at this poll. The less a remaster/remake adds to the original experience, the weaker it will be.

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Yuri_LowelI
01/08/20 8:51:29 PM
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I agree with Dragoquest XI not being a remaster

Game is a year old at best and this is simply the "switch" version with added content.

Is Witcher 3 a "remaster" Because its on switch? What about Mortal Kombat XI?

Then again the GOTY polls this year have been a disaster for Allen. NO planning whatsoever. Instead of looking at what Gamefaqs fav games could be he went on Metacritic and put in games that noone on this site cares about.

The whole point of a Final GOTY poll is to have the best top games on it. instead were going to have a bunch of indie/VR games that noone gives a shit about.

No other gaming site that does user GOTY awards does this. They straight up let every user nominate their very own GOTY game or do a poll but with more extensive list of games.

If Gamefaqs did that with every user nominating their top 5 and it was a weighted list. It would be a much more accurate representation of this sites GOTY and even though i thought Kingdom Hearts 3 sucked balls, it would have a ton of support on this site.

When the final GOTY poll shows up its going to have a random Star wars VR game on it.

Also the Remaster catagory is a joke. What if for arguments sakes one day a Melee Remaster wins GOTY? because no other site would allow a remaster to be eligible for a GOTY award. Thats just not fair on the newer games released this year. A full remake i can pass though like RE2 because its essentially a brand new game with and older story. LA is pshing it a bit but the game looks completely different and has QoL gameplay changes. But thats as far as it goes.


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Yuri_LowelI
01/08/20 8:53:03 PM
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Advokaiser posted...
By the way, if you want proof of how weak a remastered game can be compared to its original counterpart, just look at this poll. The less a remaster/remake adds to the original experience, the weaker it will be.

Which makes DQXI a bit of an oddball because its neither a remaster or a remake. ITs just a definitive Switch port with more content.

Remasters should be from previous generations and Remakes.

DQXI should have been on the Switch Poll. A was. Why wasn't DQ? DQXI is Switch's highest rated game this year.

Just bizarre.

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Yuri_LowelI
01/08/20 8:58:34 PM
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LusterSoldier posted...
It's unlikely that LA would have benefited from this in the Switch poll which is more top heavy than the games in this poll. When you factor in the presence of Luigi's Mansion 3, Pokemon, and Super Mario Maker 2, there's far less reason to vote for LA if you haven't played the game because it's more likely you have played one of the other games in the Switch poll.

LA might actually be stronger than the Switch poll would suggest based on the early vote totals in today's poll. This poll has 905 votes at the end of the first hour. For comparison, the Switch poll had 931 votes at the end of the first hour and finished with 9599 votes. Despite the lack of RE2, today's poll is on track for about 9000 to 9400 votes (only slightly less than the Switch poll) while outperforming the PS4 poll by at least 500 votes or more. This poll breaking 9000 votes would imply LA is doing an excellent job at drawing in votes despite not having RE2 in the poll and this poll being less top heavy than the Switch poll. If that's the case here, LA could have more strength than expected.

LA looks better on the switch poll than this. IT outright beat Luigis Mansion 3 and got near FE. Which for me is laughable. I don't even like FE but thats a genuine GOTY contender on any platform. Not a lazy remake thats overpriced with technical issues. But thats this site for you. Put Zelda name on it and it will do well regardless.

i mean theres talk of a GOTD poll of the last 10 GOTY winners on Gfaqs.....don't bother. BOTW is going to dominate that poll. I just hope Mass Effect 2 doesn't come last.


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Leonhart4
01/08/20 9:13:00 PM
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There's no chance ME2 will come last. That "honor" will probably belong to Borderlands 2 or FFXV unless a Nintendo game gets SFF'd to death.

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MetalmindStats
01/08/20 9:59:39 PM
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Yuri_LowelI posted...
instead were going to have a bunch of indie/VR games that noone gives a shit about.
Blame our GotY format as a whole for that one, not Allen's specific incompetence this year. While you could fairly quibble with the repeated placement (or in some cases, non-placement) of certain games in certain polls, Kingdom Hearts III was the only real snub (seriously, we needed Crash Team Racing over it, yet that game wasn't in the remake poll?), and even then, it would have jobbed hard to RE2.

Yuri_LowelI posted...
LA looks better on the switch poll than this. IT outright beat Luigis Mansion 3 and got near FE.
I'm not sure in what universe almost getting doubled by Three Houses is getting near it. Not to mention you were the one trumping how strong DQ11 Definitive was supposed to be, and now beating some game no one remotely cares about here is supposed to be a better showing than almost doubling a version of DQ11?

Also, I don't want a GotD poll simply because I want to see that question answered this next contest, and that's less likely if we also have a poll about it.

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LeonhartFour
01/08/20 10:01:36 PM
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MetalmindStats posted...
Also, I don't want a GotD poll simply because I want to see that question answered this next contest, and that's less likely if we also have a poll about it.

Eh, POTD results don't necessarily correlate to contest results.

Prime example:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6164-best-game-ever-day-33-division-ii-final-final-fantasy-vi-vs
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5728-all-of-the-other-final-fantasy-games-aside-which-is-better

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LusterSoldier
01/08/20 10:05:02 PM
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I would be totally fine getting a GotD poll since the game strengths seem in that poll wouldn't be completely accurate due to LFF (and possibly SFF). All we would know for sure is that Breath of the Wild is the strongest game of the decade, and Skyrim should come in second place.
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MetalmindStats
01/08/20 10:10:54 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Eh, POTD results don't necessarily correlate to contest results.
I know that. My point is we're less likely to even get a GotD II contest if we also get a poll about it.

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LeonhartFour
01/08/20 10:13:21 PM
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swirIdude
01/08/20 10:23:20 PM
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Chrono Cross beat Majora's Mask in 2000?

What a world that must have been.

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LeonhartFour
01/08/20 10:26:02 PM
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swirIdude posted...
Chrono Cross beat Majora's Mask in 2000?

What a world that must have been.

no we didn't actually run a GOTY in 2000 for whatever the reason

but it absolutely would have

I miss the early '00s

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LusterSoldier
01/08/20 10:26:17 PM
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There aren't any GotY polls for 2000, so Allen had to pick out a game of his choice for that year. The other possible candidates for 2000 is FFIX and Majora's Mask. Back then, Majora's Mask certainly wasn't loved like it has become now, so it would have been a bad choice from the perspective of choosing what game would have likely won for 2000. Guessing Chrono Cross got selected as the poll already had Zelda and Final Fantasy representatives.
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Team Rocket Elite
01/08/20 10:26:28 PM
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No, there were no GotY 2000 polls. Chrono Cross was just selected to be on the poll.
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LeonhartFour
01/08/20 10:29:23 PM
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linid0t
01/08/20 10:43:32 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/189-which-big-game-are-you-most-anxiously-awaiting

the halcyon days

Geez, going back through some of those really old polls is interesting if nothing else

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/225-what-is-the-best-game-of-2000-so-far
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CaptainOfCrush
01/08/20 10:45:56 PM
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Game of the Decade Poll

Resident Evil 2
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Breath of the Wild
Final Fantasy XV
The Witcher 3
Super Smash Bros. Wii U
A Link Between Worlds
Borderlands 2
Skyrim
Mass Effect 2

Considering 40% of the poll would be Nintendo (including another Zelda), I can see Skyrim holding up quite well, if not beating BotW outright. Since this could be seen as a more "serious" poll though, I anticipate that BotW would siphon the other Nintendo offerings into shallow husks - whatever it needs to win. I'd bank on BotW > Skyrim > Mass Effect 2 as the top three. Smash Wii U scores under 1%.

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LusterSoldier
01/08/20 10:53:44 PM
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It's too early to talk about whether or not Resident Evil 2 is the strongest game for this year. I haven't seen anything in the current GotY poll results that definitively places RE2 as the top game.

Fire Emblem: Three Houses finished with a higher overall percentage in its poll compared to RE2 in the PS4 poll. The Switch poll also finished with about 1100 more votes than the PS4 poll, which implies the Switch poll had stronger competition overall. Though the PS4 poll was certainly lacking KH3, which could have cost the PS4 poll a few hundred votes.
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_SecretSquirrel
01/08/20 11:50:18 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/189-which-big-game-are-you-most-anxiously-awaiting

the halcyon days
Shemnue over GSC has me laughing really hard.

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LusterSoldier
01/09/20 12:00:43 AM
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Expansion GotY poll today:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7837-

Looks like we're not quite at the overall GotY poll yet. This is a completely new category that's never been done before.
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LordoftheMorons
01/09/20 6:33:33 AM
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Go my King of Cards

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Big Bob
01/09/20 12:29:22 PM
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King of Cards was the worst Shovel Knight campaign. I still voted for it, though, since I haven't played anything else on the poll.

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AxemRedRanger
01/09/20 12:59:05 PM
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I'm maybe around halfway through and I'm liking it pretty well.

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MetalmindStats
01/09/20 10:12:46 PM
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Here's the new and improved version of my GotD II mock bracket from 2018: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78318602

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LusterSoldier
01/10/20 12:01:33 AM
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Overall GotY poll today:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7838-

Due to RE2 winning 3 polls, it looks like Allen decided to choose Sekiro as one of the second place finishers from the polls it previously appeared in. Devil May Cry 5 also got into the overall GotY poll despite finishing behind 4 games in the PS4 poll and 3 games in the Xbox One poll. Outer Wilds somehow got into the overall GotY poll despite looking like absolute garbage in all of its previous polls (PS4, Xbox One, PC, Indies). Disco Elysium also got into the overall GotY poll, though at least it finished second place in the Indies poll.
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Yuri_LowelI
01/10/20 12:04:10 AM
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DRAgon quest mother FUCKING S

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Yuri_LowelI
01/10/20 12:05:07 AM
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LusterSoldier posted...
Overall GotY poll today:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7838-

Due to RE2 winning 3 polls, it looks like Allen decided to choose Sekiro as one of the second place finishers from the polls it previously appeared in. Devil May Cry 5 also got into the overall GotY poll despite finishing behind 4 games in the PS4 poll and 3 games in the Xbox One poll. Outer Wilds somehow got into the overall GotY poll despite looking like absolute garbage in all of its previous polls (PS4, Xbox One, PC, Indies).

allen redeeming himself with this one

common sense to include Sekiro in this as well as DQ11

and outer wilds is a great gsme. Even if 4 people will vote for it.

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Yuri_LowelI
01/10/20 12:06:35 AM
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
Game of the Decade Poll

Resident Evil 2
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Breath of the Wild
Final Fantasy XV
The Witcher 3
Super Smash Bros. Wii U
A Link Between Worlds
Borderlands 2
Skyrim
Mass Effect 2

Considering 40% of the poll would be Nintendo (including another Zelda), I can see Skyrim holding up quite well, if not beating BotW outright. Since this could be seen as a more "serious" poll though, I anticipate that BotW would siphon the other Nintendo offerings into shallow husks - whatever it needs to win. I'd bank on BotW > Skyrim > Mass Effect 2 as the top three. Smash Wii U scores under 1%.

hahaha. Skyrim has diminished dude. Expect Witcher 3 to beat Skyrim handily.

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LusterSoldier
01/10/20 12:07:04 AM
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Sekiro was definitely the best choice for Allen to include here out of the games that didn't win a single poll.

Also, this GotY result is really weird. Fire Emblem: Three Houses is somehow losing to Link's Awakening despite laying a beatdown on it just a few days ago in the Switch poll. It's also losing to Dragon Quest, strangely enough.
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KamikazePotato
01/10/20 12:08:59 AM
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Fire Emblem crushing Link's Awakening in the Switch poll and losing in the general poll would be such a GameFAQs thing.

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LusterSoldier
01/10/20 12:10:49 AM
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Okay, looks like that was just a really terrible board vote for Fire Emblem. It's made things much closer with RE2 and jumped above Dragon Quest and Link's Awakening on that most recent update.
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Yuri_LowelI
01/10/20 12:13:00 AM
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LusterSoldier posted...
Okay, looks like that was just a really terrible board vote for Fire Emblem. It's made things much closer with RE2 and jumped above Dragon Quest and Link's Awakening on that most recent update.

hopefully DQ and Sekiro both beat out LA. Absolute shambles how that game even got into this poll.

Dq11 probably wins this GOTY poll with had the game came out on everything this year.

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