Poll of the Day > A middle eastern/russian Coalition airstrike kills Charles Manson, what a do?

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Lokarin
01/04/20 11:56:05 PM
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What a do?




I used Charles Manson cuz I couldn't think of an active western terrorist off-hand

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Sahuagin
01/05/20 12:01:48 AM
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terrible person to pick... no one cares if charles manson dies. (died in 2017 actually).

better pick might be someone like Edward Snowden (not a terrorist but at least maybe ideologically controversial). or maybe the unibomber, Ted Kaczynski, who at least has a possibly sympathetic ideology, though his means of expressing it were unfortunately extreme.

another possibility might be one of those military personnel who were convicted of abusing iraqi prisoners? then you at least have a western individual terrorizing middle easterners.

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Dreaming_King
01/05/20 12:07:10 AM
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Criminal or not, murder is still murder. The perpetrators should be brought to justice by any means necessary.

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faramir77
01/05/20 12:54:49 AM
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That is a very bad analogy.

A better analogy would be if China assassinated a US general that was secretly in North Korea.

From their perspective, that would be justified. Just like how from our perspective, taking out the Iranian general who, for who knows what fucking reason, was in Iraq, is also completely justified.

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Mead
01/05/20 1:36:42 AM
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Lok topic

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Zeus
01/05/20 4:51:42 AM
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Lokarin posted...
I used Charles Manson cuz I couldn't think of an active western terrorist off-hand

The analogy doesn't work for any number of reasons, including the fact that Manson had no direct ties to the US government, his criminal conduct was domestic, and he was imprisoned.

Sahuagin posted...
better pick might be someone like Edward Snowden (not a terrorist but at least maybe ideologically controversial).

The parallel doesn't work at all because Snowden's "victim" was the US government and he's no longer a government agent (specifically because he did what he did).

Sahuagin posted...
another possibility might be one of those military personnel who were convicted of abusing iraqi prisoners? then you at least have a western individual terrorizing middle easterners.

The fact that they're convicted makes it a bad parallel as well. The US killed an active general in good standing with his government, which is why the assassination can be viewed as an attack on the government itself.

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Kyuubi4269
01/05/20 5:44:10 AM
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Zeus posted...
The analogy doesn't work

Zeus posted...
The parallel doesn't work

Zeus posted...
makes it a bad parallel

There is no parallel because

We don't train terrorists
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Nichtcrawler X
01/05/20 11:16:16 AM
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Sahuagin posted...


another possibility might be one of those military personnel who were convicted of abusing iraqi prisoners? then you at least have a western individual terrorizing middle easterners.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
There is no parallel because

We don't train terrorists

What about the soldier they made a movie about?


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Sahuagin
01/05/20 4:46:40 PM
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Zeus posted...
The fact that they're convicted makes it a bad parallel as well. The US killed an active general in good standing with his government, which is why the assassination can be viewed as an attack on the government itself.
I'm not actually up to speed on this current situation which I didn't realized Lok was implicitly directly referring to. I was just looking for things that were the mirror image of "western country assassinates middle eastern terrorist" (with a loose interpretation of "terrorist" so that there'd actually be someone to choose from).

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gguirao
01/12/20 12:17:40 PM
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Chuckle to myself that he got what he deserved.

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