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Snake5555555555
01/05/20 2:05:29 PM
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FFDragon posted...
Separate Ways ended perfectly to set up a Wesker/Ada showdown at some point, but absolutely none of that is ever followed up on.

This has always been the far worse sticking point for me in RE4's story. I think RE4 is too awesome for me to care about the handwaving of Umbrella's fall, since by the time the game gets going real good you forget all about it really. But you don't forget so easily a plot thread that sets up the next game!


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FFDragon
01/05/20 6:15:08 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
since by the time the game gets going real good you forget all about it really.

It's like 15 years later and I've never forgotten!

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FFDragon
01/05/20 7:22:41 PM
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For real though I've been blueballed on "The Organization" for 21 years now, and it doesn't get any easier.

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Snake5555555555
01/09/20 10:00:51 PM
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So that's it then, huh, you're giving up?!

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X_Dante_X
01/09/20 10:05:43 PM
#55:


21 years is a long time to be blue balled

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FFDragon
01/10/20 5:22:17 PM
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A-Rank:
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
Resident Evil 1/Director's Cut/Deadly Silence
Resident Evil 7: Biohazard

Re-rebooting the series, I think 7 did a better job of things than 4 did. Which is weird since 7 detached itself from the core of the mythos (characters/plots) than even 4 did, but it was the atmosphere and spirit that really brought things back in line for me. Also I played the entire thing in VR and it was a delight and I nearly broke my hand several times flailing like a madman. For the first time in a long time, RE went back to a character that has no idea what he's doing and just winging it the entire time. Hand chopped off with a chainsaw? Slap some herb juice on it. Foot cut off with shovel? Herb juice that shit too and keep going! Seriously how was Umbrella not making BILLIONS off the Arklay herbs alone? Anyway, Ethan is a good everyman that carries the show and even though we've now diverted into like cannibal family slash creepy ghost girl slash you want to play a game brand of horror, it's still swung back to horror and that's all I've wanted for a while. Also you can punch a crocodile in the mouth.

What I didn't like... Basically the last 30 seconds of the game into Not a Hero. I was SO SURE it wasn't actually Chris, and it made so much sense for it not to be Chris, and then it was just Chris. Not only was it just Chris, but it was just Chris in the SAME "Chris loses his entire team" storyline we've been getting since 1996. And then everything Blue Umbrella is such a letdown that I have to hope RE8 fixes things somehow. Seeing those Umbrella choppers, even the picture of one in the demo, was so hype all for nothing. Rest of the DLCs with Clancy and Joe, fleshing out the cast though? Ace. Great return to form imo.

The OG Resident Evil is what really started my love affair with the genre. I wish I still had my longbox with that ridiculous coverart, but alas it's lost to time somewhere. This is B-Horror at its finest, from the cheesy acting to the perfectly timed jumpscares and I just love how this game pretty much invented a genre (sorry Sweet Home, you may have been first, but you didn't make the SPLASH) that has stuck around to this day. And even though the series has started taking itself more seriously over the years, Capcom still gives a nod every once in a while to the true roots of things (Jill's Sandwiches in Dead Rising comes to mind). And while I do think it has been improved upon and REMake is the definitive version, I still think the original has a place - its own place - in the scope of things. It's two different worlds almost, and each has their own highlights. The dogs coming through the windows in the 1F hallway is a moment that has always stuck with me, for example. Deadly Silence hasn't left my DS in like 8 years now, and if I go on a flight it's my go-to time filler. This is one of those times where you can really use the first game in a series as a benchmark as what the others should aspire to.

That being said... Never Forget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kcF7E69C6Q

As for Nemesis, this might be the game I've flucuated opinion on the most. Sometimes I think it is amazing, sometimes I think it's terrible, sometimes I think it's whatever. But I think I've finally settled on it here, right on the cusp of being elite. And I'm super excited to see what ThREeMake does to push things over the edge. Taking the already solid Mr. X and beefing him up to butthole puckering levels of bloodlust was a great design decision. The first time Nemmy followed me from room to room, I knew all bets were off. And that's what I think this game does best, taking things that were already established and jacking them with steroids to create something fresh (when in reality this thing was super rushed). And I'm a huge fan of the split in the game, taking place both before AND after RE2, as well as putting the final explosive period on the Raccoon City portion of the mythos. Really exploring the city instead of the just the illusion of it in RE2 was fun, and always having that lingering dread hanging over you makes this one of the more unique experiences in the series. And the Clock Tower fakeout is one of the best standalone moments in the series, already playing on your expectations. It's just a pretty 'smart' game for how fast it was put together. Obligatory BARRY mention. As I've said before the Raccoon City umbrella (for lack of a better word) is my favorite setting in the series, and I think this does it a real justice. And for one hot second, RE flashed its B-Horror roots again - You want STARS? I'll give you STARS.


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FFDragon
01/10/20 5:23:46 PM
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Yeah sorry I got busy!

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X_Dante_X
01/10/20 8:33:21 PM
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i nominated re2 for GotD, solely because the idea of RE2 sweeping GotY and then GotD immediately after is hilarious to me

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FFDragon
01/10/20 8:33:58 PM
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I support this idea 100%

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FFDragon
01/13/20 3:44:46 PM
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S-Rank:
Resident Evil 5
Resident Evil: Revelations 2
Resident Evil 2 REMake

Game of the Year 2019, right here. And a solid remake/reimagining, whatever you want to call it. It's taken all of the best "upgrades" the series evolved post-Raccoon City and slam-jammed them back into the Umbrella controlled city and... We Do It! It's incredibly fun to play, I'm still playing it in fact and it's so cool seeing everything from the RPD to the Nest all in glorious 2019 graphics. I won't harp on all the good here, it won GotY of course it's good! I'll just try to explain why it doesn't crack the top tier. With a remake, you get the chance to fix the flaws in the original. Some things, they nailed, like putting stairs into the main hall of the police station because what the fuck original RE2 no architect ever would have ONE EMERGENCY LADDER. They also expanded Marvin's role, made Kendo into a real character instead of a jumpscare, and turned Mr. X into a more terrifying version of his original self. That being said, they also didn't fix some things and actively made others worse. A/B scenario means nothing now besides a remix mode, and the recycling of bosses is a shame. The mostly A(Birkin) and B(Mr. X) was the best part of the original I think. Ada's character (cue running disappoint theme with her) is somehow worse (RE2 Ada is peak Ada imo), her not-death still doesn't get an explanation, there's no Death's Door to back it up at all, but I will say her FBI cover does make a little more sense. I think Irons got worse and Ben got shafted. I like the new discount regenerators, but with they wouldn't have been Plant 43s, but something new. Also one thing that really bothered me was taking away Sherry's moment in the true ending, how she was the only one that could fit into the control room, there was no reason to cut her part out. Also also Claire is super thirsty for the middle of a zombie apocalypse, which was weird. And the fact that there was no real crossover between the two playthroughs was a bit of a letdown. Really, most of the criticisms I have is in comparing it to the original. As a standalone, I think it is a great game worth many replays. As RE2Make though, I think it doesn't quite live up to the lofty standards the original set.

And yes, I am THAT guy who plays with the '98 costumes and original OST. It's awesome. I'll hear no argument to the contrary.

BARRY! For real this time! Rev2 to me improves on the formula of Rev1, which was a slow reintegration back to classic RE style with a modern RE shell. Claire probably has the best appearance-to-quality ratio for her games, and this is no exception. I also quite like the idea of seeing how growing up in the world of Biohazards affects people, and Moira is a great case subject on that (Sherry being another). And yes, seeing something decent come out of the 'Wesker Children' nonsense softens my view on it a bit. Really, this is the game that kept my hopes alive for the series in the dark ages and I think it's one of the better overall experiences in the series. Alex might be a bit of a discount Alexia, and we started our trend into spooky ghost stuff (the consciousness hopping) that carried on into 7, but otherwise it's a great addition to the lore. It expands on Uroboros, brings back series vets, expands BSAA/Terra-Save lore... It does everything right I think. Moreso than Rev1 I think it strives to be a mainline game, like CV before it. And honestly if you had slapped the 7 on this one I don't think anyone bats an eye. If Capcom is going to keep putting out sidegames in the series, this is how they should do it. Make them matter, use them to expand the world they've built, and make them mean something in the overall stake of the series. If we never hear about Natalia again, I'll actually be kind of bummed. Alex Wesker was even introduced in RE5, so using main games to propel side games is also the right way to get me invested.

RE5, to me, is the peak of the "modern" RE trilogy and it isn't even close. There was more stake in the overall series with Wesker's involvement, the gameplay was tightened up from 4 without being excessive like 6. I don't knock the AI like most people since I've almost always played it co-op when I've played it seriously. And when I'm doing a series replay, I just put it on babyass baby mode and it's good to go. Learning the origins of the Progenitor virus was cool, as was the advancement of Las Plagas. Spencer went out like an afterthought, which was bad, and Jill didn't get one of the final rockets in on Wesker, which was real bad, but otherwise I'm alright with the plot. If the series had to move on from Wesker, the ridiculous volcano boulder punching finale was the way to do it. I don't personally think it was the way to go, especially after 4 set up so many things, but alas. I (with Dante) put literal hundreds of hours into this game from top to bottom, to the point where we even had inside jokes that I remember to this day (fucking Uroboros sprays, man). So yeah, underrated by people on the internet I'd say, but at the same time a deserving candidate for top-selling game in the series.

RE5 also has by far the best B-Horror mook villain that Alfred and Salazaar wish they could be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9YkwQ74Ah0

One of the big things that pushes RE5 over the top for me though is the single best DLC in the series: Lost in Nightmares. Not only can you play it with fixed cameras (!), but it's otherwise a classic throwback Jill and Chris in a spooky mansion fighting Wesker romp that is amazing all over. Couple that with the fact that Dante and I waged a literal World War on those leaderboards for well over a month, and it's not an exaggeration to say that LiN is the single piece of RE media I've had the most fun with.

Additionally, Resident Evil has a history of randomly having songs in them that clash incredibly with their horror theme. The most known probably being that rock anthem that drops in the true ending of RE2. Well, this batch has my other favorite example of this:

Rust in Summer 2008 [RE5] (Amazing name to boot):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoLhyO-4S8


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Snake5555555555
01/13/20 4:03:51 PM
#61:


FFDragon posted...
RE5 also has by far the best B-Horror mook villain that Alfred

I like Irving but I cannot abide by this mockery!

Other than that I agree with pretty much everything here. I doubt my hype levels for anything will even come to close to the hype I had for RE5 at the time, and that still remains one of my top favorite in the series.

I too hope the ending of Rev2 gets expanded on, and unlike other things in the series it does seem sort of likely but I know not to get my hopes up too much. Once the REmake kick calms down a little a one-two punch of RE8 & Rev3 would be perfect.

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XIII_rocks
01/13/20 4:13:45 PM
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5 is an underrated game that I greatly enjoy. But goddamn the co-op thing frustrates me sometimes looking back. Either make Sheva a real part of the narrative or have her killed off and replaced with Jill halfway through

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Dantezoid
01/13/20 4:34:12 PM
#63:


We DOMINATED those leaderboards until those pesky kids found glitches and stuff

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_stingers_
01/13/20 4:49:08 PM
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Also also Claire is super thirsty for the middle of a zombie apocalypse, which was weird.

What do you mean by that

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FFDragon
01/13/20 5:00:42 PM
#65:


aw yeah re5 respect a++ guys

And yeah, I know I already complained about the CHRIS LOSES HIS WHOLE TEAM trope, but Sheva getting killed and Jill taking over at the end could have been a good gut punch.

Dantezoid posted...
We DOMINATED those leaderboards until those pesky kids found glitches and stuff

stupid french and german asshats, we were the last legit number ones I think

_stingers_ posted...
What do you mean by that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUR4HEK1-yc

Fun Fact: Only half of that is really rain, the other half is entirely Claire

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_stingers_
01/13/20 5:26:47 PM
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lol

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_stingers_
01/13/20 5:27:01 PM
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i guess thats flirting i dont see it too much but ur comment made me laugh

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davidponte
01/13/20 6:07:46 PM
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Super late tag!

I always love to see RE5 get more love. I still prefer RE4 but they're both in my top 15 games ever. I've yet to come across a co-op experience that I've enjoyed more.

I've always been interested in the Revelations games, but bounced off of the 3DS one because I felt like I needed a second analog stick and that thumb stick thing just wasn't cutting it. I always contemplate picking them up on PS4 during a sale, I might have to pull the trigger at some point.
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FFDragon
01/14/20 11:54:10 AM
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https://youtu.be/BBky2uCGqtM

New RE3 trailer

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Snake5555555555
01/14/20 12:04:17 PM
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God damn that trailer was sick as hell. Nemesis looks terrifying here.

A lot of events and places I don't even recognize on first glance, this game is looking even more remixed than the RE2make.

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pjbasis
01/14/20 12:05:00 PM
#71:


If it's a Claire game you know you're in for a treat.

RE5 is probably the game I put the most hours into. S ranked all missions on professional with a fellow RE nut.

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XIII_rocks
01/14/20 12:30:26 PM
#72:


STARS

AAAgghhh

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FFDragon
01/14/20 2:12:28 PM
#73:


That flamethrower is definitely going to get exploded... midgame I guess.

Also remember how I was talking about RE games having weirdly non-horror music in them sometimes? This has been making a strong case to pass Rust in Summer 2008 lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPjqHZjXlK4

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FFDragon
01/14/20 2:14:41 PM
#74:


And god damn does this really mean RE3, FF7, and Cyberpunk all in the same week?

oof

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RaidenGarai
01/14/20 2:27:10 PM
#75:


FFDragon posted...
And god damn does this really mean RE3, FF7, and Cyberpunk all in the same week?

oof
It wouldn't surprise me if they delayed FF7 another time or two. I hope they do, so it's not right up on the back of RE3

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FFDragon
01/14/20 2:32:20 PM
#76:


RE3 > Cyberpunk > FF7 for my to-do list, so if it does work out like that I might not even buy FF7 for a few months!

At this point I'd welcome another delay.

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X_Dante_X
01/14/20 8:33:02 PM
#77:


WAIT



how am i not the tagmin of this

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FFDragon
01/14/20 8:35:05 PM
#78:


This is a very good question

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X_Dante_X
01/14/20 8:38:12 PM
#79:


weavile we demand justice

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_stingers_
01/14/20 9:56:58 PM
#80:


FFDragon posted...
And god damn does this really mean RE3, FF7, and Cyberpunk all in the same week?

oof
Oh God please don't do this to me

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_stingers_
01/14/20 9:57:21 PM
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Cyberpunk will probably get delayed if anything

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FFDragon
01/14/20 11:58:35 PM
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Full Nemmy render.

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FFDragon
01/16/20 2:21:54 PM
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_stingers_ posted...
Cyberpunk will probably get delayed if anything

Prophetic

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01/18/20 12:22:29 PM
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FFDragon
01/19/20 3:17:54 PM
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I will get back to this soon.

But for now, I was trying to remember all the crazy alt costumes and characters, and I think out of everything this has to be by far the weirdest:



And this is in a series that has five playable types (flavors?) of Tofu.

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FFDragon
01/19/20 3:32:29 PM
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Pirate Jill is one of my favorites though:



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Snake5555555555
01/19/20 3:49:34 PM
#88:


Sailor Chris has always made me feel weird inside.

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01/19/20 3:53:19 PM
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Chris has so many ones. The aforementioned creepy sailor, a gangsta, a ninja, a samurai, and a few others I'm forgetting offhand

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