Current Events > Instead of prison why don't we send criminals to military style boot camps

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A lot of these people don't mind laying around in a cage all day

But having to work your fucking ass off in brutal conditions all day for years? Much better punishment and deterrent.

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i agree

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some prisons have programs like that

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It would never happen, because some inmate would get a good enough lawyer to argue that its cruel and unusual punishment. At least, thats what would happen in the US.

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i mean what are you gonna do if they refuse to comply?

gimme 20 pushups maggot!
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SauI_Goodman posted...

i mean what are you gonna do if they refuse to comply?

gimme 20 pushups maggot!
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One guy would be made an example of. I guarantee its already happening in prisons right now.

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meralonne posted...

It would never happen, because some inmate would get a good enough lawyer to argue that its cruel and unusual punishment. At least, thats what would happen in the US.

"Wahh why don't we abuse inmates like the subhuman scum they are"

I wish some people would just man up and say they advocate for all criminals to be executed.

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SauI_Goodman posted...

i mean what are you gonna do if they refuse to comply?

gimme 20 pushups maggot!
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More years. So if you're already there for 143 years, you don't care, and still say "no".
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I agree with the concept. I'd say there is maybe a better option though. Sure, keep the violent offenders in a boot camp setting.

I think taking the non-violent offenders and giving them something more productive to do. Like the occasional crews of fugitives you'll see picking up litter. Maybe, offer reduced sentences for certain jobs.

Obviously some foreseeable issues, like government trying to maintain a certain population incarcerated for the work they're doing.

Idk solve the energy crisis. Put prisoners on stationary bikes for x hours a day that generate electricity lol.

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SauI_Goodman posted...

i mean what are you gonna do if they refuse to comply?

gimme 20 pushups maggot!
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They can have their sentence upgraded to a death sentence in these cases

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the edgiest of topics
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Why not send the NEETs to these camps too?

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SergeantGander posted...

like government trying to maintain a certain population incarcerated for the work they're doing.

They don't need to do anything special - crime is so rampant you have a steady supply of "volunteers"

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SauI_Goodman posted...

i mean what are you gonna do if they refuse to comply?

gimme 20 pushups maggot!
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5 hours of listening to dad jokes

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hockeybub89 posted...

I wish some people would just man up and say they advocate for all criminals to be executed.

Who says that?

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Yes let's make sure all of the inmates are buff as hell

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why not just bring back chain gangs?

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Punishment in general has proven to be a poor deterrent, and non-productive.

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spudger posted...

the edgiest of topics

For real.
The best part is they either are overlooking, or ignorant to the fact that we already have this in the form of Shock incarceration.

I know two people who opted into it to shorten their sentences.
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Look how China does it. Now this is a country that has its shit together. Some drug toting criminal got 15 years in prison - upon appeal, gets the death penalty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiM6E_8QdFk

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Yes, that's just what we need: more authoritarianism. Its the American way.

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And when you get the death penalty in China, it's the death penalty. Not waiting 90 years in prison while the appeals go through. They take you out back right then and there and put you in front of the firing squad.

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REMercsChamp posted...

And when you get the death penalty in China, it's the death penalty. Not waiting 90 years in prison while the appeals go through. They take you out back right then and there and put you in front of the firing squad.

Frankly, the death penalty should be immediate or non-existent.

If it's a blight on the sanctity of life that a murderer should go on living long after their victim, then the murderer should be put to death as soon as possible. Conversely, if it's barbaric to execute someone today, then it's barbaric to execute someone in a decade from now. Death row only makes sense as a means of milking tax payer money in keeping the condemned alive for as long as possible.

"You took a life. For that, you will wait 20 years in a cell and then have your life taken from you."

Skye Reynolds posted...

Frankly, the death penalty should be immediate or non-existent.

If it's a blight on the sanctity of life that a murderer should go on living long after their victim, then the murderer should be put to death as soon as possible. Conversely, if it's barbaric to execute someone today, then it's barbaric to execute someone in a decade from now. Death row only makes sense as a means of milking tax payer money in keeping the condemned alive for as long as possible.

"You took a life. For that, you will wait 20 years in a cell and then have your life taken from you."

The reason it takes so long is because of the appeals process, which pretty regularly results in death row inmates being exonerated.

I think the death penalty should be abolished, but a quick one would be one that kills more innocent people.
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It seems like we need a more efficient appeals process; one that isn't okay with letting innocent people languish in prison.

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Because prison is for profit. Drill instructors and shit cost money.

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I really hate how citizens are so pro-punishment, tbh. many of these laws are unjust and trivial.

it's one thing if somebody is a menace to society(murderer/rapist/sex trafficking, etc.), but the vast majority of inmates are not lol. just people who had an error of judgement, pissed off the wrong entity or violated a law that somebody with higher social/financial status would've get away with.

for people who have a debt to repay to society... objectively they should be doing something that directly effects that very society. so why isn't community service the default punishment? some roads have had the same potholes since Bush Jr was in office.

community service is more practical for the average "criminal." but laws are being passed all the time, and many of us are criminals by definition of the law.

but I don't agree with the bootcamps idea. we need to reexamine our narrative about crime and punishment.
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Youre doing it wrong, TC. One word:

Thunderdome

Why waste taxpayer money on criminals? Instead, take a property that no one is really using (for example, Detroit), push all the criminals there. Wall it off from the rest of the country and fortify it so no one can escape.

Install live camera feeds all along the perimeter and in secret places inside Thundersome, so Americans can be entertained.

After that, the criminals are on their own. They have to grow and harvest their own food, and anything goes in Thunderdome. If they actually organize and become a threat to national security, drop a mini tactical nuke on Thunderdome.
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REMercsChamp posted...

A lot of these people don't mind laying around in a cage all day

But having to work your fucking ass off in brutal conditions all day for years? Much better punishment and deterrent.

What do you think boot camp is like, dude?

Do you really not see the problem with putting violent criminals in boot camp against their will?

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So you want an army of slaves

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Blue_Inigo posted...

So you want an army of slaves

shhhh!
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Some US prisons have mandatory work camps. And there is a 'boot camp' system that fastracks some inmates out of prison. 50 Cent, for example, went through one of those when he was a young guy.

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The fact that people still bite in champ topics after YEARS is pretty sad.

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Ya'll really want to make make the criminals stronger and have more stamina?

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