Poll of the Day > Anime, Manga, VN, JRPG, Related Things Discussion Topic LXXXVIII

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agesboy
12/30/19 4:14:20 PM
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i made this topic just to tell you all to play baldr sky again, because at 90 hours in, i finally finished the main story, and it blows everything else out of the water. it's like if muvluv started out alternative levels of hype and just kept getting better

play baldr sky

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AllstarSniper32
12/30/19 6:03:42 PM
#2:


Baldr?

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keyblader1985
12/30/19 6:11:06 PM
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I didn't even notice the other topic was close to finished.

I've been catching up on Conan again. Really wish they would quit playing games and be honest with Sera, since she already freaking knows and can take care of herself just fine. Though I suppose since she's so close to the case herself, she could potentially go out and do something reckless.

I'll probably watch Tokyo Godfathers tonight or tomorrow; forgot to watch it around Christmas. And I'll be ringing in the new year beating Kingdom Hearts III again. For 2018 I beat KH1 and 2019 I beat Dream Drop Distance.

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T0ffee
12/30/19 6:35:38 PM
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Pop Quiz!

A friend tells you "Hey you like that anime stuff right? Explain this."

https://i.imgur.com/BqGahJi.jpg

What do you say?

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In other news I'm at around 30 hours in Final Fantasy X and I reached the Calm Lands.

All I have to say is FUCK the chocobo races.

This really brings down my opinion of the game as a whole.

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AllstarSniper32
12/30/19 6:39:55 PM
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T0ffee posted...
This really brings down my opinion of the game as a whole.
But...why? They aren't a necessity of the game right?

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keyblader1985
12/30/19 7:18:54 PM
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T0ffee posted...
What do you say?
Explain what a trap is, or what the fuck in general?

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T0ffee
12/30/19 8:03:00 PM
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AllstarSniper32 posted...
But...why? They aren't a necessity of the game right?

It is if you want to 100% the game or just want to get the celestial weapons.

I can understand locking the best stuff behind a long sidequest or a tough boss, but gating it behind an obnoxious minigame; like the heavily luck based races, or tedious stuff with an instant lose condition like the lightning dodging, is just bad game design.

Honestly it really wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the godawful ps2 era controls. (Or if the lightning dodging was cumulative instead of consecutive)

keyblader1985 posted...
Explain what a trap is, or what the fuck in general?

Just curious to see different people's reactions.

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I_Abibde
12/30/19 10:31:26 PM
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T0ffee posted...
All I have to say is FUCK the chocobo races.

Agreed. That is the most I have cursed at a game since the NES version of Ghosts 'n' Goblins.

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YoukaiSlayer
12/30/19 11:27:28 PM
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I only even remember the lightning dodging. At least it's bullshittery left a lasting impression on me.

I just finished up cautious hero. It had a surprisingly strong finish and S2 hook. Considering the show is essentially one gimmick repeated in different scenarios, I really thought it'd fall off the more episodes I saw but they managed to make it engaging. It's still not like a perfect anime or anything, just a solid watch.

Not sure if I want to finish up shokugeki no souma next or go to vinland saga.

Man, it's so depressing that the year is ending and I'm still no closer to being cured than 8 months ago. My weight continues to drop even though I've slowed it somewhat. I'm down under 150 lbs. I despise the medical system so thoroughly, I probably couldn't design it to be worse. I've been feeling so hot lately and it sucks. It's like my skin is freezing but my core is on fire. Probably months before the important test I need and even then I highly doubt the results will be useful. My GP wants to remove my gallbladder despite the GI and surgeon both saying thats a terrible idea and the GP even said it has no risk or downside. What the fuck? It feels so hopeless like I'm surrounded by incompetent uncaring egomaniacs that can't even be assed to pretend to be good at their jobs.

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dragon504
12/31/19 1:57:42 AM
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keyblader1985
12/31/19 12:20:59 PM
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We've found him.

https://i.imgur.com/GiwyRO8.jpg

This is the man the Lord chose.

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deoxxys
12/31/19 1:08:25 PM
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dragon504 posted...
Been watching Dr. Stone.
how far along are you?

Love this show for its unique premise.


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Zeus
12/31/19 3:15:56 PM
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Picked up a later volume of Ouran HSHC for cheap at a thrift store. Still wishing that we'd see another season to close out the show, but at some point I've got to get around to reading the manga.

In general, that's one thing that always annoyed me about anime -- unless the ongoing manga is super-popular, only part of it winds up getting adapted. Something like Genshiken is a weird case, though, since it had a short first season, then some years later they had 3 OVAs, and then they had a second season (iirc produced by somebody else) that kinda closed out the series despite cutting a lot of stuff because the manga ran a bit further than that.

Man no one posting, guess no one wants to start the new topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L53gjP-TtGE

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AllstarSniper32
12/31/19 4:34:07 PM
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T0ffee posted...
It is if you want to 100% the game or just want to get the celestial weapons.
But it's not a necessity to complete the game.

The only thing I didn't like doing was playing Blitzball so I never got Wakka's weapon. I got all the others easily enough.

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agesboy
12/31/19 5:04:38 PM
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wtf blitzball was the best part of ffx

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AllstarSniper32
12/31/19 5:16:05 PM
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Well, to me blitzball was the worse requirement of getting the celestial weapons.

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OniRonin
12/31/19 5:31:19 PM
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i wanna be a blitzball player, but.... I'm not very good at holding my breath :(

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YoukaiSlayer
12/31/19 10:22:27 PM
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keyblader1985 posted...


This is the man the Lord chose.
A true legend.

Zeus posted...
In general, that's one thing that always annoyed me about anime -- unless the ongoing manga is super-popular, only part of it winds up getting adapted.
Yeah this pisses me off. Thankfully in the last few years it's actually gotten a lot better. Nichijou S2 never ;-;

I think if theres one series I could get another full season of it'd be konosuba. So lame that they just stopped adapting it despite there being enough material for like 100 more episodes. A random movie here and there isn't enough.

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Zeus
01/01/20 1:28:00 AM
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What was the hentai they were actually streaming?

YoukaiSlayer posted...
I think if theres one series I could get another full season of it'd be konosuba.

Right now, I think I'd have go with Ouran... but I'm probably forgetting something I like more.

Granted, one of the worst might be Ghost Hunt since I hate the format for the manga so I'll likely just have to read a wiki or something instead of watching it.

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agesboy
01/01/20 3:16:59 AM
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been on an anime song rampage today and man it saddens me that we'll probably never see this VN in english

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhHFN3SlcA

spiritual successor to subahibi, which- while considered a kamige in jp- did not sell very well at all in english (game takes 8+ hours to get "good" due to the first route being basically lucky star plus yuri before delving into cults, suicide pacts, extreme sexual deviancy, and philosophical meanderings by the second and third routes

but man... good ass op song

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YoukaiSlayer
01/01/20 3:29:15 AM
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Spent a bit of xmas money on the steam sale. Got octopath traveler, yakuza 0, slay the spire, and disgaea 5. I don't think I played disgaea 4 but oh well, it's not like it really matters. Only had to pay 1 dollar for yakuza 0 so that was nice. This is in addition to dragon quest 11 that my friend got me a week ago. A bit sad I won't really have time to play all these right now because monster hunter world iceborne is coming out on PC in 8 days and that'll consume my life for a while. It'd be nice if they gave us all content the console version has on release but I doubt they will.

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I_Abibde
01/01/20 8:51:36 AM
#22:


Welcome to 2020. How I made it this far is a mystery.

keyblader1985 posted...
This is the man the Lord chose.

May he live for all time.

agesboy posted...
been on an anime song rampage today and man it saddens me that we'll probably never see this VN in english

Never say never. Baldr Sky made it across the Pacific, no? :-P

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agesboy
01/01/20 1:15:29 PM
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baldr sky has been either been being fan translated (ixrec) or officially translated (sekai project) for about 9 of the 11~ years it's been out; it was never really a question of will it come out but rather when

it has such an immediate visceral appeal, unlike sca-ji's stuff which is philosophical, slow to start out, and sometimes intentionally revolting (subahibi has multiple h scenes that are meant to elicit nothing but absolute disgust, like bullying leading to the homosexual rape of the point of view character)

i don't actually know if sakura no uta delves into depravity as much as subahibi does, but subahibi doing badly really does not bode well for it regardless

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T0ffee
01/01/20 2:24:09 PM
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So I'm in the middle of playing ffx but I see that ff xii is on sale for 25 down from 45.

Should I get it?

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AllstarSniper32
01/01/20 2:35:06 PM
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T0ffee posted...
Should I get it?
I know a lot of people didn't like it but I loved it so I say yes!

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YoukaiSlayer
01/01/20 3:33:17 PM
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I'm tempted to say FF12 is the best designed jrpg. It kind of nails everything for me. It's got fantastic wilderness, fantastic towns/npc, fantastic party customization, the fucking gambit system which every game should have, a pretty solid story, mostly interesting party members, and a shitload of side content. Theres really nothing it doesn't do well.

The sort of divisive part of the game is the combat though. It's similar to xenoblade if you could tell your party members exactly how to respond to any situation. You basically have an ordered list of AI lines for each character. Stuff like If ally hp < 50%, use cure. It executes the highest line that meets the criteria so at the bottom you probably have something like Always, nearest enemy, attack. You can manually choose actions in combat that will override that but the fun of the game is designing a party setup and gambit list that will handle the enemies in the current zone as well as quickly figuring out a way to counter something that isn't handled by your gambit set up.

I love it but plenty of people absolutely despite it. Also the main character is just kind of along for the ride. Ashe or baltheir are really the main characters but they didn't think that'd be relateable enough so they added in a teen protagonist that has very little connection to the plot. He's not a bad character or anything, just feels like he is far less relevant to whats going on than some of the other party members.

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Bulbasaur
01/01/20 8:18:46 PM
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keyblader1985 posted...
I use Tachiyomi on Android

What is this awful app?

It hasn't been updated in like a year.

Why aren't you using Mi Manga Nu.

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agesboy
01/01/20 8:25:06 PM
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YoukaiSlayer posted...
I'm tempted to say FF12 is the best designed jrpg. It kind of nails everything for me. It's got fantastic wilderness, fantastic towns/npc, fantastic party customization, the fucking gambit system which every game should have, a pretty solid story, mostly interesting party members, and a shitload of side content. Theres really nothing it doesn't do well.
Zodiac Age in particular is EXTREMELY good. But, the game as a whole does have a gigantic flaw; the plot pacing. It's extremely plot heavy in the first few hours then goes super scarce for the rest of the game. I think I remember hearing someone digging around and finding out the halfway point in a dump of the game's main story script was the Tomb of Raithwall. That isn't very far in the game at all.

The other minor flaw I have with Zodiac Age in particular is that it's really easy to lock yourself out of access to stuff entirely because you don't have the right classes. I was a doofus and picked no white mage, so now my access to stuff like protectra/shellra/bravery/faith is super limited. I think I managed to get bravery via esper nodes and can do the same with protectra eventually, but I don't think I'll ever possibly have access to shellra or faith. It's just way too big of a decision to make at points in the game where you really don't know what you want long-term.

Overall, Zodiac Age is vastly superior of vanilla FF12, but a few tweaks (being able to respec classes at a heavy cost mainly... I'd even take losing all points spent on the board you're abandoning) would make it damn near perfect. Gambits are amazing.

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keyblader1985
01/01/20 9:27:42 PM
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Bulbasaur posted...
What is this awful app?

It hasn't been updated in like a year.

Why aren't you using Mi Manga Nu.
The individual sources are updated regularly.

Anyway, I'm just sick of hopping between apps every so often. Manga Plus, Manga Rock; I'm sure there were others I'm forgetting.

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YoukaiSlayer
01/01/20 9:50:26 PM
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agesboy posted...
Overall, Zodiac Age is vastly superior of vanilla FF12, but a few tweaks (being able to respec classes at a heavy cost mainly... I'd even take losing all points spent on the board you're abandoning) would make it damn near perfect. Gambits are amazing.
Yeah the story pacing isn't the best but I feel like it kinda works. The story serves as a hook and by the time it slows down you are heavily invested in exploration and items and side quests and leveling and all that rpg goodness. Then it wraps up with a fairly solid finish.

I never played any version but vanilla though and always worried about exactly what you mentioned with being locked out of important stuff even though supposedly vanilla is actually the hardest version. I'm kinda surprised if there is no respec mod since it's on PC.

I still actually like all the xenoblade games more but each of them has at least one big flaw that holds them back (not enough towns to explore in 1 or x leaves the whole world feeling rather empty, 2 fixes that but has no endgame content outside of the DLC arena that is poorly balanced and the whole rng gacha thing isn't my cup of tea, the story in all 3 also have parts that really piss me off) whereas I really couldn't think of anything like that for FFXII vanilla.

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T0ffee
01/01/20 9:55:30 PM
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Seems like generally positive reviews.

I might just go ahead and get it since the sale ends tomorrow apparently, and it goes back up to $50.


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dragon504
01/01/20 10:12:03 PM
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deoxxys posted...
how far along are you?

Love this show for its unique premise.

Around ep 17. The premise is quite fun. Wonder how many ripoffs we'll see in the future.

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helIy
01/01/20 11:13:40 PM
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What does this mean.

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agesboy
01/01/20 11:18:21 PM
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YoukaiSlayer posted...
I never played any version but vanilla though and always worried about exactly what you mentioned with being locked out of important stuff even though supposedly vanilla is actually the hardest version. I'm kinda surprised if there is no respec mod since it's on PC.
There was a big lack of mods in general, from what I saw. A few texture packs, one or two license board complete overhauls, thats pretty much it.

Overall I think if I had literally just taken white mage I'd have been fine. Knight on main physical attackers, mix of shikari/bushi/uhlan/foebreaker/monk as secondaries for them (because you will wander your way into some OP weapon types earlier than others, so it helps to spread the number of useable weapon types amongst party members), one white+black/time mage. Pepper in anything else you might want to use. Archer and foebreaker are probably the only kind of underwhelming ones.

I used.... Monk/Bushi Vaan, Uhlan/Archer Penelo, Foebreaker/Shikari Fran, Time Mage/Knight Balthier, Foebreaker/Bushi Basch, and Red Mage/Black Mage Ashe. Main things I'd change would be foebreaker on Basch and red mage on Ashe. It's otherwise been pretty sweet. I was about 20 hours into my playthrough of zodiac age and was like level 60.

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keyblader1985
01/01/20 11:32:07 PM
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Actually it looks like the hentai story wasn't really true; they just streamed regular porn. The search for the chosen one continues.

helIy posted...
What does this mean.
At any rate, it's strange..

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T0ffee
01/01/20 11:43:15 PM
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agesboy posted...
There was a big lack of mods in general, from what I saw. A few texture packs, one or two license board complete overhauls, thats pretty much it.

Overall I think if I had literally just taken white mage I'd have been fine. Knight on main physical attackers, mix of shikari/bushi/uhlan/foebreaker/monk as secondaries for them (because you will wander your way into some OP weapon types earlier than others, so it helps to spread the number of useable weapon types amongst party members), one white+black/time mage. Pepper in anything else you might want to use. Archer and foebreaker are probably the only kind of underwhelming ones.

I used.... Monk/Bushi Vaan, Uhlan/Archer Penelo, Foebreaker/Shikari Fran, Time Mage/Knight Balthier, Foebreaker/Bushi Basch, and Red Mage/Black Mage Ashe. Main things I'd change would be foebreaker on Basch and red mage on Ashe. It's otherwise been pretty sweet. I was about 20 hours into my playthrough of zodiac age and was like level 60.

Interesting.

Having only done a very brief skim through the job/class system, I'll probably try to spread all 12 jobs for each of the six characters.

Of course, that's still a long ways off since I'm still putzing around the Calm Lands in FFX grinding out Tidus's overdrives.


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YoukaiSlayer
01/02/20 1:15:56 AM
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Yeah I figured you couldn't truly screw yourself it's just that with those kinds of things I feel like I must be optimal so instead of playing I'll be spending a few hours looking up forum posts and planning out the exact split of jobs. It's why I didn't enjoy FE:Awakening. It was fun up until marriage but then I felt like I had to fully research exactly what would make the most optimal children and that just sucked me out of the game. It's a flaw I have.

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T0ffee
01/02/20 1:26:24 AM
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YoukaiSlayer posted...
Yeah I figured you couldn't truly screw yourself it's just that with those kinds of things I feel like I must be optimal so instead of playing I'll be spending a few hours looking up forum posts and planning out the exact split of jobs. It's why I didn't enjoy FE:Awakening. It was fun up until marriage but then I felt like I had to fully research exactly what would make the most optimal children and that just sucked me out of the game. It's a flaw I have.

Oh man, I had the exact same problem with FE: Awakening too.

It took me a while to get over it and finish the game eventually, but then Fire Emblem Fates had the system where you can put any skill on any character and that just drove me up the wall trying to hyper-optimize everyone.

Still haven't finished even one route, even though I bought all three.

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T0ffee
01/02/20 2:06:55 AM
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Oh wow.

Looks like the Switch version of FFXII (the one with the sale) actually added a whole bunch of new stuff from the ps4 version.

License Reset Function: By talking to Clan Centurios leader Montblanc in Rabanastre, players can reset and change their party members jobs, allowing them to customize the jobs of their party as desired.

Additional Gambit Sets: Gambits allow players to customize their partys AI. Players can now create three unique sets, allowing players to switch between sets for different situations, such as map exploration or boss fights.

Improved New Game+: Allows users to start the game with party members at level 90 and carry over some items like weapons, magic and gils obtained during previous playthroughs.

looks like @agesboy got his perfect version after all!

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Bulbasaur
01/02/20 4:28:49 AM
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Those are the things they added to it when they ported it to the Xbox and Switch. PS4 never got those ones.

Which sucks, just like the PS4 and PC version of DQ11 not getting that shit.

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helIy
01/02/20 3:14:54 PM
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Whoever translated/typeset Psycho Pass Akane really fuckin' sucks at it.

Entire pages are just words strung together that are nonsensical and meaningless.



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dragon504
01/02/20 7:49:59 PM
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Finished up Dr. Stone. Was a nice premise and glad to see it's getting a second season, especially since it ended with a lot of build up. Gonna go for Vinland Saga next. Been eagerly awaiting this one.

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agesboy
01/02/20 8:47:27 PM
#43:


T0ffee posted...
looks like @agesboy got his perfect version after all!
yeah that is literally all I'd need to say it's the perfect version of that game. gambit presets was another thing that slipped my mind that i'd really like; one field set (steal, aoe spells), one boss set (high priority on buffs and more freely empty MP and use items), one survivability/utility set (in case I want that character to function as a healer; oftentimes my bushi/monk vaan can just solo heal with just his curaja access) would have saved a lot of headaches. as is I had every character doing a bit of everything and just disabled a tactic slot entirely (like steal/poach) if it wasn't useful for the fight I was doing. led to pretty inefficient gambit sets and often having to manually cure certain debuffs

sucks that i have none of the systems it's on, though :(

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YoukaiSlayer
01/02/20 9:25:35 PM
#44:


Yeah it's kind of bullshit they can't just patch it in on the other versions.

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dragon504
01/02/20 9:43:08 PM
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@agesboy

So, I did my 5th spark on the last flash gala, since it was discounted by 170 draws and I now have all flash gala characters. Started doing my 6th spark today, but aborted after 100 draws, since I got Vickey. I'm still missing 4 premium gala grands, as well as Mahira, Vajra, and Kumbhira, so I'll spark this banner later when the other zodiacs are available and I have enough draws again. Maybe during the anni events, I'll be able to spark again and get another zodiac.

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agesboy
01/02/20 9:52:42 PM
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meanwhile still 0 sparks here

ethical ssf hc gbf experience right here

i did luck into vikara and then felt a tingle in the force that made me raw pull 20 more times for new yuisis though so i'm good

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dragon504
01/02/20 9:59:17 PM
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agesboy posted...
meanwhile still 0 sparks here

ethical ssf hc gbf experience right here

i did luck into vikara and then felt a tingle in the force that made me raw pull 20 more times for new yuisis though so i'm good

I'm quite looking forward to tomorrow's 200 draws, though I'm not expecting much. I was super excited to hit my first 100 on the roulette wheel this year and then it got even better with a rps win. I got one SSR in those 200 draws. It was in the first 10 draw too. I was happy to get Morrigna at least, since I'd wanted them. But still, 200 draws and one SSR :(. To add insult to injury the next day I got 30 more draws on that banner and got 0 SSRs lol. I'd be a lot saltier if the flash banner hadn't been so nice. Think that flash banner gave me a 4th eden and a 4th Ixaba as well. Now, if I could ever just pull Agni, I'd be super happy.

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deoxxys
01/02/20 10:32:52 PM
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dragon504 posted...
Finished up Dr. Stone. Was a nice premise and glad to see it's getting a second season, especially since it ended with a lot of build up. Gonna go for Vinland Saga next. Been eagerly awaiting this one.
nice another good animu

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YoukaiSlayer
01/03/20 1:19:46 AM
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Damn, just started watching vinland saga again and it's immediately a powerful episode (episode 14). Such a good show. I wish more anime were like this. Every side story ends up being so engaging and powerful.

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helIy
01/03/20 4:49:07 AM
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I have no idea what's happening in this manga.

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