Current Events > Gacha and Hero Collection Game General Topic 6: ''A life or dess situation.''

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Touch
01/16/20 11:23:56 PM
#101:


Not gonna lie. The battle art of Arknights is kind of a turn off lol

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YugiNoob
01/16/20 11:27:34 PM
#102:


Yeah, admittedly it's nothing to write home about. But the skills look cool lol. And oddly enough this game has an idle portion too, that's like those castle builder games. Actually I'm not sure if I'm using that genre correctly. It's like that American Dad Apocalypse When game, where you have areas where you can build rooms that produce items over time.

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PokeCris
01/17/20 1:23:53 AM
#103:


https://twitter.com/dragalialostapp/status/1218051070896766976?s=21

This event needs to start already.

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YugiNoob
01/17/20 1:26:29 AM
#104:


And this needs to be made into the national anthem. OF EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa8dIu_0zio

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Cookie Bag
01/17/20 2:13:57 PM
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YugiNoob
01/17/20 2:36:09 PM
#106:


Lmfao all these idiots giving Arknights a 1 star review SOLELY because you cant reroll.

...except you can reroll, and the funny thing is that its actually far easier and faster than in most other games

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Calwings
01/17/20 2:43:00 PM
#107:


Cookie Bag posted...
Speaking of arknights i love that the main artist of GFL went to work for that game after the shitshow that went down with it, now we have a furry version of UMP45

a furry version of

furry

No.

https://i.imgur.com/yHEf4BH.jpg

The Arknights characters and the animal-eared characters in GFL (like G41 or ART556) are not furry. Don't bring that word in here.
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Calwings
01/17/20 3:09:02 PM
#108:


YugiNoob posted...
Lmfao all these idiots giving Arknights a 1 star review SOLELY because you cant reroll.

...except you can reroll, and the funny thing is that its actually far easier and faster than in most other games

It may be easier and quicker to re-roll, but I'm certainly not having any luck in my attempts. I still haven't managed to get any of the ones I want (not even the 5-star ones) to show up at all, yet I've managed to pull Hoshiguma (a 6-star whose design I don't like at all) a whopping 8 times now.

If I can't get a good roll by the end of the day today, I'm giving up and just not going to bother with the game.
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Touch
01/17/20 3:11:37 PM
#109:


Devs just need to embrace how some gachas do a in-game reroll until you're satisfied. Epic 7 does a 30 and I think One Piece Treasure Cruise lets you roll infinitely until you're satisfied. Rerollers will reroll anyways so why not make the process fast so they can enjoy the game and tell others about it?

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Tyranthraxus
01/17/20 3:29:24 PM
#110:


Here's a calculator you can use to game the open recruitment system to guarantee best results every time

https://aceship.github.io/AN-EN-Tags/akhr.html

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YugiNoob
01/17/20 3:58:14 PM
#111:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Here's a calculator you can use to game the open recruitment system to guarantee best results every time

https://aceship.github.io/AN-EN-Tags/akhr.html
Thats pretty cool, thanks :D

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Touch
01/17/20 4:00:08 PM
#112:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Here's a calculator you can use to game the open recruitment system to guarantee best results every time

https://aceship.github.io/AN-EN-Tags/akhr.html
Huh? I tried going through it and...uh...I don't get it?

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Tyranthraxus
01/17/20 4:28:36 PM
#113:


Touch posted...
Huh? I tried going through it and...uh...I don't get it?
Make sure to set the game server to English. It's Chinese by default. Setting the language isn't enough you have to also set the server to English.

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YugiNoob
01/17/20 4:41:57 PM
#114:


So when you go to recruit, you punch in the options you have on the calculator and you can see which operators you can get from the possible choices.

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Calwings
01/17/20 7:29:46 PM
#115:


Uwasa Tsuruno was added to Magia Record today as a rare example of a limited 3-star character. She's limited in the sense that you can only pull for her during this banner. However, due to her being a 3-star by default and not a 4-star, her rates are better than a 4-star, plus you'll always be able to buy her destiny gems (to unlock memoir slots) using magia chips or destiny bottles after you pull her the first time, even beyond the time this event ends. So I thought to myself: "Since she has the rates of a 3-star and I only need to pull one copy of her to be able to max her out, I may as well try and get her, right? It'll only take a couple of 10-pulls, right? Her rates are high enough that I'll get her pretty quick, right?" Next thing I know, my entire stash of Madokami savings is completely gone and I've failed to get Uwasa Tsuruno after 155 pulls. I took the bait, and I lost it all.

DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT. GACHA IS A SCARY THING. GACHA IS BAD CIVILIZATION AND IT MUST BE DESTROYED.
*goes back to playing Magia Record*
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Cookie Bag
01/17/20 7:31:58 PM
#116:


Calwings posted...
No.

https://i.imgur.com/yHEf4BH.jpg

The Arknights characters and the animal-eared characters in GFL (like G41 or ART556) are not furry. Don't bring that word in here.
The plot is literally a virus or something infected people and they started to develop animal qualities, also:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/106926672468516864/667593631422611474/char_009_12fce_1.png

Literally a fucking furry (scalie, subset of furry, whatever) don't even @ me

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Calwings
01/17/20 7:37:38 PM
#117:


Cookie Bag posted...
The plot is literally a virus or something infected people and they started to develop animal qualities, also:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/106926672468516864/667593631422611474/char_009_12fce_1.png

Literally a fucking furry (scalie, subset of furry, whatever) don't even @ me

I stand corrected. My apologies.
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Leanaunfurled
01/17/20 8:37:36 PM
#118:


The virus doesn't turn them into animals, that's just their race.

https://i.imgur.com/1pSh9AO.png

Texas is a Lupus. She doesn't even have the infection, oripathy. It's just an infected patch on or in the body that grows until the victim is consumed by it and passes away.
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Stagmar
01/17/20 9:15:22 PM
#119:


Leanaunfurled posted...
The virus doesn't turn them into animals, that's just their race.

https://i.imgur.com/1pSh9AO.png

Texas is a Lupus. She doesn't even have the infection, oripathy. It's just an infected patch on or in the body that grows until the victim is consumed by it and passes away.
Yep. The bios say who is infected and who isnt. Most of Rhodes Island are infected since theyre the ones who would be most interested in a cure, but not all of them are.

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Cookie Bag
01/18/20 12:36:02 AM
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Leanaunfurled
01/18/20 1:23:05 AM
#121:


Nah, I agree with that chart right up above. Lappland doesn't apply as furry status, it's just a chick with dog ears and tail.
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Cookie Bag
01/18/20 1:27:28 AM
#122:


The furry chart is a fucking idiotic meme shit people made up to not be compared with the furry fandom when they talk about humans with furry qualities and don't want to be associated with the degeneracy of other people that want to fuck animals.

That's a furry ump45 by every definition of the word, i'm not making any correlation with the weirdness of furrydom, its a fucking fact she's a furry UMP with tail and cat ears.

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The Catgirl Fondler
01/18/20 4:50:52 PM
#123:


Fire Emblem Heroes is having a crossover banner with that Persona/Fire Emblem game that came out on the Wii U. Tokyo Mirage Sessions I think its called.

Can honestly say I did not know a Fire Emblem/Shin Megami Tensei crossover game existed.

Though now I'm wondering if SMT: Liberation will do some sort of collab to cash in on it too. I mean, they already did ones with Bayonetta and Devil May Cry, so why not Fire Emblem too?

Admittedly, FE doesn't really have "demons" running around, but there's plenty of "dragons" and "beasts" and those are absolutely demon types in SMT. I would not say no to getting Tiki and Lethe in another game.
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I love that their are dudes in Arknights.

I don't mind male characters, albeit they won't be my highest priority, with the exception of some. I for one love albino Argonian Hawkeye, for example.
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I actually have been thinking of using my voucher on Projekt Red.

Oh yeah, forgot about that voucher, need to use that next time I log in.
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And oddly enough this game has an idle portion too, that's like those castle builder games. Actually I'm not sure if I'm using that genre correctly.

Reminds me of Fallout Shelter, which I'm okay with. Hope willing there's no "base defense" stuff though, I don't want to deal what this game's equivalent of radscorpions and deathclaws (even if they're totally moe).

And if they *do* add that kind of mechanic, it better damn well come paired with the ability for me to breed with operators to keep our morale up between attacks.
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I think One Piece Treasure Cruise lets you roll infinitely until you're satisfied.

I admit that I don't care to reroll and just go with whatever my first/only account gets, but I could see myself doing it if it's an actual feature of the game. In this case it would be nice having Crocodile, Robin, or Carrot to start with.
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The furry chart is a fucking idiotic meme shit people made up to not be compared with the furry fandom when they talk about humans with furry qualities and don't want to be associated with the degeneracy of other people that want to fuck animals.

To be fair, it's not always about trying to disassociate with the furry fandom, some folks are just legit turned off by muzzles and furry/scaly bodies and only like ears and tails, which I figure is because those can be seen as "accessories" while the former are bodily parts. It's the same reason some folks aren't into monster girls despite how human they normally are because "too much" of them may be animal otherwise (like, literally half their body).

And this isn't bias talking, I'm a furry myself and could easily find everything on that chart fuckable if drawn well enough, I just get why other people have different levels of tolerance when it comes to beastly features.
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Calwings
01/18/20 5:21:26 PM
#124:


The Catgirl Fondler posted...
Can honestly say I did not know a Fire Emblem/Shin Megami Tensei crossover game existed.

That's what TMS was originally announced as. But then the first trailer dropped, and it looked much closer to a Persona game but with an "idol anime" paintjob and the ghosts of Fire Emblem characters acting as the characters' personas. It turned off a lot of the fans who were expecting a more straightforward crossover, but some (like myself) found the new direction the game went in really endearing and enjoyable. If you're expecting a game that plays like a combination of SMT or FE, then you won't find it. But if you're looking for a new experience that takes elements from both of those franchises but works them into its own unique identity, then TMS is worth trying out.

The Switch port (it was originally released on the Wii U when that system was already on its way downhill) came out a couple of days ago and has already sold pretty well. The TMS characters being added to Fire Emblem Heroes was partly to drum up hype for this re-release.
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The Catgirl Fondler
01/18/20 5:36:02 PM
#125:


Calwings posted...
If you're expecting a game that plays like a combination of SMT or FE, then you won't find it. But if you're looking for a new experience that takes elements from both of those franchises but works them into its own unique identity, then TMS is worth trying out.

The TMS characters being added to Fire Emblem Heroes was partly to drum up hype for this re-release.


I haven't actually played a Persona game before (only "traditional" SMT), but I've heard nothing but good things about that branch of ths franchise, and in general I'm not adverse to RPG series that go outside their previous comfort zone. (I loved Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter for example.)

That said I'm already torn between two of the TMS additions in FEH. One supposedly has Tharja as their Persona, and the other one has a fucking rocket-powered horse. (Oh, uh, and I guess the actual characters they're attached to are nice as well.)
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Tyranthraxus
01/18/20 7:18:01 PM
#126:


Arknights is really hard

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Nightmare_Luna
01/18/20 9:48:31 PM
#127:


TMS is generally considered among the worst games in the megaten franchise, even by persona standards. If you like idols, you'll like TMS. But that's all TMS is. It's a shallow idol JRPG that was never supposed to exist. Yes, I'm STILL mad about SMTxFE not being a thing. We could have had a great blend between devil survivor 1-esque gameplay, with FE system mechanics we know and love. What we got was idol persona.

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YugiNoob
01/18/20 10:01:54 PM
#128:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Arknights is really hard
This is what I noticed too. I hate those missions that force you to use set units. Actually I hate that in any game. Let me use my favorites dammit :<

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Calwings
01/18/20 10:08:58 PM
#129:


Nightmare_Luna posted...
TMS is generally considered among the worst games in the megaten franchise, even by persona standards. If you like idols, you'll like TMS. But that's all TMS is. It's a shallow idol JRPG that was never supposed to exist. Yes, I'm STILL mad about SMTxFE not being a thing. We could have had a great blend between devil survivor 1-esque gameplay, with FE system mechanics we know and love. What we got was idol persona.

I don't think it was a bad game, but I agree that it was very divisive. I don't have much else to say beyond what I already said in my previous post.
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Calwings
01/18/20 10:49:20 PM
#130:


In less than 9 months since the original Chinese launch, Arknights already has 18,600 artworks on Pixiv. I wonder how that compares to the first 9 months for Azur Lane, Girls' Frontline, Kancolle, and other past "cute military girl" gacha games that spawned a ton of fanart...
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Eab1990
01/18/20 11:00:19 PM
#131:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Arknights is really hard

This sounds really surprising to me, since I've heard it's a billion times easier than Aigis.

Aigis has a lot of fake difficulty though, thanks to harsh retry penalties (at launch, you didn't get any refund whatsoever; now you get 50%, which is still painful if you ran a 12-hour map).

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legendarylemur
01/19/20 1:54:11 AM
#132:


I think the "best" strat on Arknight is just a bit too obscure. Like I have no bearing on how much damage my tanks are doing to warrant fielding them with some rangers vs fielding a warrior and some rangers and rely on just killing things fast enough.

Was trying to 3 star the mission to get those... like archer symbol things (EDIT: Fierce Attack for the chips)? But every run, I'd have one side accidentally let one slip by. It has an annoying 3 tile wide spot to which those tanky sword guys come through in droves.

I kept putting 3 tanks in the middle as my problem was that there would be too many coming at once, 6 at a time non stop for about 3 waves. But the correct solution was fielding a long range warrior in the middle of 2 tanks instead, because that killed just enough units in time. Tanks hold like 3 units and I think warriors hold 2? 1? It's not entirely clear.

But I would've come to that conclusion much faster if I knew just how much damage was being done vs the utility of blocking 3 units

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Shotgunnova
01/19/20 4:16:44 AM
#133:


China's getting the USS Biloxi, another Cleveland-class cruiser.



But, man, there's a lot of Clevelands left to add to the game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland-class_cruiser

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YugiNoob
01/19/20 4:22:36 AM
#134:


Different units can block different amounts. I like Plume because shes a Vanguard but can block 2 enemies :3

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The Catgirl Fondler
01/19/20 4:30:51 PM
#135:


YugiNoob posted...
Different units can block different amounts. I like Plume because shes a Vanguard but can block 2 enemies :3


Yeah, still getting used to some of the mechanics, I keep underestimating who can block how much and for how long and I feel like I'm not getting much out of AOE Casters. Their high deployment costs doesn't help when a lot of these maps require getting units out as soon as possible for as cheap as possible, or that the DP seems better spent on getting Medics out to keep Guards/Vanguards/Protectors healthy.

Also used that voucher... snow leopard is best kind of catgirl waifu, also helps that Supporters are one of the classes I have the least amount of (outdone only by Specialists).
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Cookie Bag
01/19/20 5:14:36 PM
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legendarylemur
01/19/20 10:51:40 PM
#137:


Playing Arknights made me wanna play gemcraft again. Jesus, that game is just so much better and liberating. I know it lacks waifus but it's just so much better and fun despite being way more complicated and grueling

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Shotgunnova
01/20/20 5:48:30 PM
#138:


New Azur Lane event stuff is out tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1219288478363447302

All the new ships are in light construction, too, so it seems like it'll be easy on the ol' cube stockpiles.

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Calwings
01/20/20 7:39:05 PM
#139:


I officially uninstalled Revue Starlight ReLIVE today (content is coming too slow while the PvP power creep is growing too fast) and I'm also already considering dropping Arknights because I don't feel like I'm getting into it that much. It's just not hooking me. I'm more lenient on franchises that I'm a big fan of (I would have uninstalled ReLIVE a while ago if I wasn't a huge Revue Starlight fan) but gacha games that aren't tied to an existing franchise that I'm already a fan of have to be really good to hook me, and so far, Girls' Frontline has been the only one that managed to do it.

Anyways, I'll give Arknights another week or so, but I don't think I'm going to stick with it. I did already download a ton of fanart (including lewds) from the series though, so it did at least get my attention in that regard.
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YugiNoob
01/20/20 7:43:58 PM
#140:


In all honestly Arknights is becoming a bit frustrating. I need to grind a bit to keep up with the stages. Also I'm sad that the one character I wanted (probably) isn't playable :<

...Also her name is stupid.

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Tyranthraxus
01/20/20 8:21:57 PM
#141:


I can't get past chapter 2-7 and I don't think buying anything from the shop is going to help me so I'm thinking about cutting my losses now.

The rates are also fucking garbage.

Like really really bad.

I have not pulled any 5/6* characters except for the guaranteed ones. I can't beat any of the resource gathering nodes for T2 resources. I can't beat any chip missions.

Part of it is because I suck but I don't really see any way to make progress. I could whale my way through it all but I'd hit another roadblock and be stuck there instead.

So I'm probably going to bail.

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YugiNoob
01/20/20 8:27:16 PM
#142:


I think I'm on 2-7 as well. Although I'm grinding some drills or whatever to level up my guys. And yeah, what's the deal with the pull rates? I heard that they were pretty generous, but they've been ass :<

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Leanaunfurled
01/20/20 8:27:17 PM
#143:


What character did you want, Yugi?

I just did 2-2 and still having a blast. Squad is all level 20. Been wanting to power through story stuff but I think I need to chill and level a bit in the resource mission. Main gripe is I wish they got exp from missions and not just battle records.
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YugiNoob
01/20/20 8:28:31 PM
#144:


I wanted Talulah :<

Maybe this picture will be less weird. Yay! Tiny, but at least not janky :3



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Leanaunfurled
01/20/20 8:32:19 PM
#145:


Oh yeah. I love the designs of a lot of Reunion people but none of them are playable. I wish they had non-canon playable units v_v
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YugiNoob
01/20/20 8:34:34 PM
#146:


Oh yeah and I wanted Crownslayer too, but I mean since she was fighting Amiya in the trailer, I didn't have high hopes :<

I guess I was lucky that Projekt Red is playable, since she looks like a bad guy lol

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Leanaunfurled
01/20/20 8:42:28 PM
#147:


I'd like to have Mephisto ;_;
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The Catgirl Fondler
01/20/20 10:21:24 PM
#148:


Leanaunfurled posted...
Main gripe is I wish they got exp from missions and not just battle records.


Same here, would give me more of a reason to use different characters of the same class to create different auto-deploys, instead of sticking to just the ones I feed battle records too until I end up with "1st & Only Squad" syndrome.
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Eab1990
01/20/20 10:32:05 PM
#149:


Not that anyone else here is playing them, but Flower Knight Girl is having its fifth anniversary now. Lots of free 5*s and x11 rolls to be had for everyone.

Millennium War Aigis is having its sixth anniversary soon too. Right now they're in the middle of a collab with some visual novel. Since I probably won't be keeping up with Arknights, Aigis will continue to be my go-to for tower defense fix, for better or worse.

And... Princess Connect's second anniversary is next month, I believe. I've been rerolling on and off for the past week or so, and I think I've finally settled on an account I like.

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Stagmar
01/20/20 10:42:27 PM
#150:


I kind of liked Aigis when I tried it years ago, but the only way Id be able to stand playing it is in English.

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