Poll of the Day > You get 3 wishes

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

So, mind control and no free will then.

No, peace and joy. Don't be so jaded. That should be your first wish.

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darkknight109 posted...

I've always thought the, "You'll outlive anyone you care about!" argument is a weak one against immortality. Sure you will... and then you can go make new ones. It's not like you only ever get one set of friends in life and that's it. Nothing's stopping you from just getting out there and meeting new people.

It's less about the outliving, and more about the constant outliving.

In the average person's life, you eventually have to deal with your parents dying, but may also have kids of your own who will outlive you. You grow apart from some friends, but make new ones. Relationships bloom and fade, but ideally you wind up with one special person in the end, and grow old together. But there's always a limit to how much pain you have to go through, an end to the constant cycle.

For an immortal, there's never an end. You're constantly burying friends. If you can still have kids, you'll outlive every single one of them, forever. If you find that one special someone, they'll die, and you'll go through that pain over and over and over and over again (which is why, in the Highlander franchise, it's kind of established that most immortals stop having serious relationships with mortals after the third or so time of having to go through with it - they eventually decide the pain isn't worth the love).

It's not so much the individual act as much as the constant accumulation of regrets and sorrow. Eventually you theoretically reach a point where you just sort of shut down and decide making new friends or finding new lovers isn't really worth it. Why should I care about you at all, when you're just going to die like everyone else? On some level, you'll always be more aware of the impermanence of life far more than the average person is, because they live in the moment, but you live in forever.



darkknight109 posted...

Why would you feel pain if you're invulnerable?

Pain is the body's sensory response to the destruction of cells. If those cells aren't being destroyed (because invulnerability), what would trigger the pain response?

Who says that your invulnerability makes your individual cells immune to all damage? You asked for invulnerability, not cellular indestructibility.

The word "invulnerable" simply means you can't be permanently wounded. But that can be achieved on the functional level if you simply regenerate faster than you can be wounded. Plenty of stories have presented characters who can't be killed because you stab them and the wound heals, or where you can lop off a limb and they just pick it up and stick it back on. But being able to survive and repair damage isn't the same as being completely immune to damage, and it's entirely possible that in those sorts of scenarios you still feel pain (Wolverine does, for instance).

And Winter explicitly mentioned being able to regrow limbs or pop his head back on, which is the healing factor version of invulnerability, which is what I was replying to in that instance.

Presumably if you literally cannot be damaged in any way, with weapons simply bouncing off and not a single cell in your body can be harmed in any way, you wouldn't feel damage... but that might also create other problems, depending on how it's achieved. Cellular stasis would screw with you in other ways (like never being able to change how you look after the moment you're given the power, right down to not being able to shave or cut your hair, having problems with sex, etc).
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SunWuKung420 posted...

No, peace and joy. Don't be so jaded. That should be your first wish.

Why would I wish for willful self-delusion?
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Why would I wish for willful self-delusion?

That's what actually what your jaded attitude is, so that you can justify your unwillingness to try to create a better place. Of course you're going to call it realism but true realism is balance and harmony since that is what the universe and existence is constantly striving for.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

This is how supervillains start.

Not all people become evil after obtaining power.


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GreenKnight127 posted...

Not all people become evil after obtaining power.

No, most people are evil before obtaining power. The power just reveals their true nature.

But it takes a real "I'm doing this for your own good" mentality to really make a super-villain. The sort of ambition you need to be a real monster and not just a selfish asshole comes from firmly convincing yourself that everything you're doing is fully justified and people should be thanking you for it, and that future generations will praise you for what you've given them.

Road to hell, intentions, etc etc.



SunWuKung420 posted...

That's what actually what your jaded attitude is, so that you can justify your unwillingness to try to create a better place. Of course you're going to call it realism but true realism is balance and harmony since that is what the universe and existence is constantly striving for.

See, self-righteous horseshit like this is why no one likes you.
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Lol, I didn't even refer to myself yet PO is the one resorting to insults because he didn't like my wishes.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

The sort of ambition you need to be a real monster and not just a selfish asshole comes from firmly convincing yourself that everything you're doing is fully justified and people should be thanking you for it

Like Sunny and his brainwashing mind control

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Lol, I didn't even refer to myself yet PO is the one resorting to insults because he didn't like my wishes.

And there you go demonstrating an astonishing lack of self-awareness.
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darcandkharg31 posted...

Like Sunny and his brainwashing mind control

Social programming is a real thing. It's why companies use psychology to develop marketing campaigns and why fortnite is so successful. But then again, you don't know much.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Social programming is a real thing. It's why companies use psychology to develop marketing campaigns and why fortnite is so successful. But then again, you don't know much.

Tf are you bringing up that stupid soda shit, I wasn't even in that thread but whatever ya crazy.

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I dont trust Genies, so...

1) Any wish I make cannot have any unforeseen negative consequences that will negatively affect me or anyone else in any way.
2) My wishes cannot be undone no matter what.
3) I want an automatic stable income of $2500 a week, every week until Im 90 years old. This will go into my bank account and I will immediately be able to withdraw it with no strings attached.

There we go. All I really need is money

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Who mentioned soda? Darc bought up soda. In this and another topic. The guy is losing it.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Who mentioned soda? Darc bought up soda. In this and another topic. The guy is losing it.

You're social programming shtick in some soda thread i skimmed but whateves, keep playing loose because you thought I was talking about something else.

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Wealth, health, stealth.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

"Immortal" means "not mortal". And "mortal" only means "subject to death". So, being immortal means you cannot die, but it doesn't necessarily include not aging. It just means you can't die from aging. Nor does it preclude you from losing limbs, or remaining healthy in any way.

Never said it did - literally all I said was that immortals cannot die, whereas ageless beings can. I said nothing about injury or degeneration.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

It's not so much the individual act as much as the constant accumulation of regrets and sorrow.

And why would love and good memories not accumulate the same way?

This is why I say that I sometimes think people have a fatalistic view of immortality, one that's often influenced by fiction more than critical thought (Highlander being an excellent example).

If anything, I think an immortal would be more at peace with the notion of death and impermanence, because they would get very experienced with it. And speaking as someone who has watched a large number of relatives pass - some old and at the end of a full life, some young and tragically lost in their prime, some in between - it really does get easier the more often you do it. You develop what I characterize as a healthier view of death, that it is the natural conclusion to life that all face eventually. Grief is not a heartache that never goes away - not unless you allow it to be. You simply come to reflect fondly on the times you had together, cognizant of the fact that your time with *everyone* is limited, because either you or they will eventually pass on. The only thing that being an immortal changes about that equation is that it will always be the other person rather than you.

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Assuming the genie isn't a trickster...

1. To have the intelligence, knowledge, and engineering ability to create upgrade and maintain, a full dive style gaming system along the lines of SAO, and ready player one. Along with several games/worlds. This should make me a millionaire at least.

2. To always be physically strong, and in perfect health, no matter what I eat and take part in.

3. To have gate mage powers from the Orson Scott Card, Mithermage books. This will give me ability to learn languages fast, teleportation, and ability to heal others.

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DiduXD posted...

The only rules are you can't force someone to fall in love with you

1. The ability to wish for this.
2. Mutual love.
3. To not be poor.

Screw the rules.

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1. More horses
2. More money to spend on horses
3. More time to take care of horses

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captpackrat posted...

1. More horses
2. More money to spend on horses
3. More time to take care of horses

Note: This is not the order you should wish for horses. You need the money first (since money can buy time if you can afford to hire people), and time second. Then you can get the horses.

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I wish for fewer horses, and for the horses that do exist, to be much worse.

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I wish it for all Horses to not like captpackrat

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I wish for all horses to become carnivors that like to eat humans the most and be wicked smart.

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wolfy42 posted...

I wish for all horses to become carnivors that like to eat humans the most and be wicked smart.

If wishes were horses I'd be eating wish meat every night

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1: wish for the genie to gain the personality of the genie from the Disney cartoon, Aladdin.

2: wish my penis wasn't like an elephants trunk, my hips are killing me, ok?

3: wish the genie free after our adventure, and he lives in my guesthouse, ok?

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Ogurisama posted...

If wishes were horses I'd be eating wish meat every night

Instead of human meat? We all know your a demon:)

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Transport me into an anime and make me the loser dude that somehow becomes a harem protagonist.

My second wish... Wait, I think I just used all three.

wolfy42 posted...

Instead of human meat? We all know your a demon:)

A japanese demon, disguised as a school girl!

But really, it was a simpsons quote, said by Moe.

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1. Wish for regeneration
2. Reset time to before Chris Cornell died
3. Omnipotence so I can establish my nightmares and live off them!

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