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solosnake
12/08/19 5:22:35 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/style/article/banana-artwork-eaten-scli-intl/index.html

Entitled "Comedian," the artwork comprised a banana bought in a Miami grocery store, and a single piece of duct tape. There were three editions, the gallery said, adding that two had already sold for around $120,000.
It's unclear whether the banana being eaten will detract from the artwork's value, or whether Cattelan plans to buy more bananas and start again. CNN has contacted the gallery for comment.
Prior to the reported sale, the gallery's founder Emmanuel Perrotin told CNN the bananas are "a symbol of global trade, a double entendre, as well as a classic device for humor," adding that the artist turns mundane objects into "vehicles of both delight and critique."

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shnangyboos
12/08/19 5:25:16 AM
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Honestly, it seems the real art is the ridiculous descriptions of shit that aren't actually art.

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_____Cait
12/08/19 5:33:20 AM
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This is nothing new.

-paint splattered on a canvas
-inverted colors
-a literal can of soup

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Thompson
12/08/19 5:49:06 AM
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Rocky & Bullwinkle lampooned modern art in the early 1960s, when Bullwinkle made paintings using only whitewash and gave the works such descriptive titles as "a polar bear eating ice cream in a snowstorm."

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NeonOctopus
12/08/19 5:50:36 AM
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uwnim
12/08/19 5:53:23 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
Honestly, it seems the real art is the ridiculous descriptions of shit that aren't actually art.
That is probably true.

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pegusus123456
12/08/19 5:54:06 AM
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Reddit comments suggested it was money laundering.

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toyota
12/08/19 5:54:54 AM
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Arent these modern art things just a circle jerk where rich people pay for each others kids art so that same kid can continue living their bohemian lifestyle and feeling like they are making money off their passion?

Or simply just a way to clean dirty money lol
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TheGoldenEel
12/08/19 5:59:36 AM
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Modern art is rubbish

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TheMikh
12/08/19 6:08:15 AM
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the sources and targets of funding have changed, and thus has the quality and subject matter

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Ilishe
12/08/19 6:08:27 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Reddit comments suggested it was money laundering.

It definitely is

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coh
12/08/19 6:44:13 AM
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People are dumb as hell. Spending thousands of dollars on a banana duct taped to a wall?
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Forte V4
12/08/19 6:51:43 AM
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Reminds me of that Silicon Valley episode where Gavin Belson bought a mural of Dinesh banging the Statue of Liberty for like a million bucks.

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SocksForWok999
12/08/19 6:58:01 AM
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Some rich people arent satisfied with high end vehicles, electronics, addictions, or women.

Some feel the need to waste their money on modern art (shit)

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DrizztLink
12/08/19 7:01:14 AM
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Some of the stuff in the Smithsonian Museum of Modern Art was pretty interesting, but a huge chunk of MA is horseshit.

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Blue_Dream87
12/08/19 7:16:02 AM
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This is why low brow/pop surrealism needs more attention.

Art is better than it's ever been, it's only that the rich looking for tax breaks have brought shit to the media's attention

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masterbarf
12/08/19 7:17:33 AM
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coh posted...
People are dumb as hell. Spending thousands of dollars on a banana duct taped to a wall?
LilKirbs has no idea how much his wall is worth.
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BlingBling22947
12/08/19 4:22:55 PM
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Peak art bullshit.

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Touch
12/08/19 4:32:31 PM
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https://youtu.be/taCCnhoK490

They replaced the banana and then put cops to guard it afterwards lmao

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furb
12/08/19 4:33:10 PM
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The art was the overall event.

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solosnake
12/08/19 7:21:03 PM
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furb posted...
The art was the overall event.
I get that. Doesnt make this any less weird lol

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BlingBling22947
12/09/19 6:12:20 PM
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This is becoming increasingly stupid.

https://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/visual-arts/art-basel/article238176479.html

They've already replaced the banana.

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Malfunction
12/09/19 6:16:17 PM
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Modern art regularly produces great work. Insanely rich people spending absurd sums on art for often nefarious purposes isn't unique to modern art and for this to be used to bash it reeks of agenda. You can find similar if not worse craziness in people spending hundreds of millions on potentially fake unverifiable pieces of art, like that supposed Da Vinci from a few years ago.
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Hicks233
12/09/19 6:19:23 PM
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Money laundering.

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BlingBling22947
12/10/19 4:57:56 PM
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art world is a fucking joke

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Touch
12/10/19 9:15:42 PM
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Spellz2113
12/10/19 9:20:24 PM
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You could say modern art is really... turning into shit.

Ill show myself out

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apolloooo
12/10/19 9:22:33 PM
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Hicks233 posted...
Money laundering.


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darkphoenix181
12/10/19 9:26:30 PM
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Art is an investment.

It is like why a trading card can be worth thousands.

Because rarity.

This is why most art is worthless until the artists dies.

Because when the artist is dead, a rich person can show it off and say he has the only one ever and his friends spread the word and the value goes up.

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apolloooo
12/11/19 6:06:45 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/hPLHPLq.jpg

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Sphyx
12/11/19 7:15:14 AM
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They've really come a long way from buying shit in a can.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_Shit

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masterpug53
12/11/19 9:45:55 AM
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Thompson posted...
Rocky & Bullwinkle lampooned modern art in the early 1960s, when Bullwinkle made paintings using only whitewash and gave the works such descriptive titles as "a polar bear eating ice cream in a snowstorm."

Dr. Scratchansniff: 'What have you drawn here, Wakko?'

Wakko (holds up blank page): 'A cow eating grass!'

Dr. Scratchansniff: 'Where is the grass?'

Wakko: 'The cow ate it!'

Dr. Scratchansniff: 'Then where is the cow?!'

Wakko: 'Well he's not going to stick around if there's no more grass to eat!'

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eston
12/11/19 9:52:18 AM
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Things like this are also often a commentary on modern art itself. I guarantee you the artist knows how ridiculous it is

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BlingBling22947
12/11/19 8:07:17 PM
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Jesus Christ.

https://thetakeout.com/popeyes-chicken-sandwich-duct-taped-to-wall-at-art-base-1840340963

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BlingBling22947
12/12/19 7:38:02 PM
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Art Basel is the fucking worst.

sociopaths all of em

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solosnake
12/13/19 12:31:59 PM
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https://youtu.be/HXqJXq-cbTM?t=2376

Looooool Shaq still got it

Might be the best take on modern art yet

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TaiIs82
12/14/19 7:40:13 PM
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/05/14/how-leftism-and-the-us-government-corrupted-american-art/

In the last century, few crafts have changed as radically as the visual arts. Painting and sculpture was transformed by a radical shift in style. Traditionalism and aestheticism disappeared, replaced by abstract expressionism and postmodernity. But this didnt happen by accident, or even organically: it was, at least in part, the deliberate product of social engineering.

In 1947, the U.S. State Department organised an international modern art exhibition titled, Advancing American Art. The purpose was to disprove Soviet claims that America was culturally inferior. One such Soviet claim was the phrase, which meant, rotting West and was used to describe the moral and social decline of the United States in particular.

The State Departments efforts achieved precisely the opposite effect to the one intended. If thats art, Im a Hottentot, declared President Harry S. Truman. One congressman publicly denounced the show: I am just a dumb American who pays taxes for this kind of trash. The tour was cancelled. Humiliated, the U.S. Government devised a plan; the State Department was kicked off the project and the CIA was brought in.

Under normal conditions the CIA is supposed to be responsible for obtaining information from internal and external threats and deliver them to the U.S. President and his cabinet. Apparently Trumans administration felt either embarrassed enough, or considered this matter enough of a national security risk, to involve the agency. Now the goals were to promote modern and abstract art, in order to make America seem more sophisticated and cosmopolitan and to make the Soviets look out of touch.

Former CIA man Tom Braden described the process. We would go to somebody in New York who was a well-known rich person and we would say, We want to set up a foundation. We would tell him what we were trying to do and pledge him to secrecy, and he would say, Of course Ill do it, and then you would publish a letterhead and his name would be on it and there would be a foundation. It was really a pretty simple device. This is how, for example, the now-defunct Farfield Foundation came to be.

The YouTube documentary Banishment of Beauty by Scott Burdick explains the the differences that have metastasised over the last few decades. It also tells the story of Springtime And Love, a painting in the Art Institute in Chicago which was a highly popular exhibit and fan favorite despite being created by an unknown artist. The painting has become emblematic of the ruling elites disdain for popular works of art and their estrangement from popular tastes.

The gallery banished Springtime And Love to a storage unit after it won a public poll. The Institute invested more money in modern art afterwards. Only after many years did they bring the painting out again, this time displaying it in a badly lit members-only library, where it still hangs even today. What was so offensive about the artwork that the museum thought they needed to protect the public from it, given its popularity?

It isnt news that the general public doesnt like modern art. The Daily Mail collected data about average and longest view times in 2011 and the results werent pretty. Traditional works like Ophelia by Sir John Everett Millais managed to occupy visitors for up to 30 minutes. Modern art pieces did not do so well: one of Damien Hirsts was immediately disregarded by most and barely got any attention.

You can hardly blame the public for not taking modern art seriously. Look at the paintings above. One is a reproduction that sells for $600. The other is drawn by a 2 year-old-child. Can you tell the difference? Dont feel bad if you cant; neither can modern art critics. In fact, hoaxes are very common to the point where critics can be, and have been, fooled by apes.

There are reasons for that. Traditional artwork has clearly-defined goals and techniques that deliver the most life-like and realistic results. Technical faults in proportion, anatomy, lighting, perspective and coloring snap viewers out of a painting and return them to reality.

The same cannot be said for contemporary painting, which often seems so gratuitously talentless and ugly that its entire purpose might be to stick two fingers up to diligence, persistence, talent, skill and dedication. Audiences respond appropriately.

Intent, purpose and meaning are all disregarded today. Instead, modern artists indulge in stunts like blank canvases. The level of skill cannot be determined solely by reference to the paintings, as no techniques can be discerned, nor any sort of meaningful comparison between artists.

Museums and modern artists have opted to compensate for the extraordinary lack of skill and talent in the modern art marketplace by engaging in elaborate and fantastical descriptions of the mundane and trivial stuff you see in the Tate and the Guggenheim.

The Guardian newspaper is especially good at this sort of garbage. Heres one of its critics describing Barnett Newmans Onement VI: Meaning and dream collide hypnotically in his art. His vertical line, full of portent (but not portentous, as sceptics might claim) speaks of creation, God and the human urge to draw a line. Yet this primeval mark slices through entrancing colour that draws you in at a deep psychic level, irrationally, like falling into deep water.

Its a blue canvas with a white line through the middle.

Audiences have observed this widening gap between how art is celebrated and described and what they see in front of them. The lack of representation, apparent non-existence of anything resembling technique and self-indulgent, almost comically absurd praise given to trashy attention-seekers continue to bewilder the public.

To garner more attention, negative or positive, artists keep trying to outdo their previous attempts to shock or disgust. Ugliness and stomach-churning acts of exhibitionism have become so commonplace they are almost boring. Feces, menstrual blood and used condoms are now standard features of the contemporary artists palette.

Today, celebrity artists dont even need to be physically present when their art is created: Damien Hirst uses assistants to create his spot paintings, putting his name on them and selling them all over the world for vast sums.

The consequences to the art market are ephemeral buzz and works which quickly gain and then lose their value. The market has become volatile and unpredictable, with artwork that has, in it
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